Some asmr faggot made me read this shit
It was boring
>>9786726
What is an 'asmr faggot' and how did they make you read a book?
>>9786759
This, I've always known asmr as those japanese ear licking videos.
>>9786759
Dimitri, in one video he was tapping shit and one of the things he was tapping was the book and he mentioned how it was his favorite fantasy series ever
Good book anon.
>>9786695
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>literary femdom thread
>>9786695
is there an ontological different between life and non-life? between life and consciousness?
is causality ontologically real? do you have free will? how could something that stands outside of causation have evolved?
try reading
Good literature mate
Are there good podcasts about literature out there?
>>9786633
cat.. easy on the wokeness
>>9786633
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>>9786633
I was looking for the same thing. Alzabo soup is pretty cool for wolfe if that's your thing. They read along page by page and discuss it. The guys are pretty fun too
Great ending tho.
>>9786594
It's longer form and slower pace make it less immediately gratifying and direct than the other stories. Instead of a screenshot of Dublin life, it's a short home movie. Like with any Joyce, the details really come out after rereading it and I think it's one of the better stories.
>>9786594
It seems that in general the best known historical artists are those deserving of recognition but often their best known works are also among their least interesting. Take for instance Mozart and Eine Kleine Nachtmusik or Ravel and Bolero
>>9786594
Because it's not mediocre in comparison to all the other stories. If you actually pay attention while reading it, there's an insane amount of detail that makes little sense until the very end. The ending to The Dead is one of the most sublime and satisfying in all of literature not because of just the end itself, but because it brings the entire story together. Joyce is an author that never had a word or sentence that wasn't important, so reread it and really take it all in. It's also a culmination of all the other stories in Dubliners: other characters are mentioned, such as the singing girl that got screwed over by her mom, and we really come to understand how that affected the rest of Dublin.
Anyone here trying to write things with literary qualities? I have a solid semi-final draft of fiction book that I am hoping has some literary elements to it, but its hard not to make it obvious or seem like I'm reaching. Any other aspiring /lit/ writers here?
>>9786510
I'm writing a semi-literary YA Fantasy sort of thing; that is, written very accessibly, but with some portion of craft, similar to Tolkien or Madeleine L'Engle, perhaps a bit more consciously literary. There are very few books for that level of reader that don't insult the reader's intelligence.
Also because fantasy isn't taken seriously by adults unless it includes lots of swearing, sex, and an autistic magic system where spells are programmable like Javascript.
I'm already aware there's less than a 1% chance anyone will ever care about it, but reading high literature and writing middle literature is fun when its too hot outside to meet people or have fun.
What does it mean to write with "literary qualities"? I've been told that I have a knack for writing multiple times but haven't attempted to write anything serious just yet.
>>9786547
Literary quality = deeper meaning?
I tried to add in some deeper meaning, some emotional connection to the meaning of actions, some cultural commentary, etc into what I have written so it goes beyond a basic "entertaining novel." Think YA vs Hemingway.
ITT: /lit/ pet peeves. What shit bugs you the most about reading? What triggers your autismo?
>>9786490
> holding the page ready to turn to the next one
> have a habit of holding the page tightly
> accidentally tear the page
> page torn, not enough to damage the whole page but just enough that it takes a piece of the sentence with it
This has happened to me at least twice now and it always bugs me. It's like, it's not a big enough deal to worry about it, right, nor is it a big enough deal to get the book replaced, but motherfucker I don't feel right about it until I've replaced the book.
> person says they "read" audiobooks
> author directly addresses the reader
My projects greatest obstacle is myself.
I haven't even set the bar high, I'm just lazy and stupid, and I can't stay focused. I'm like a damn child.
The piece that I want to make will never come to fruition because I act like it will somehow do it on it's own.
Instead, I'm shitposting and fapping on this imageboard instead of working on the thing I know that I should be working on deep down inside.
I used to write do sketches. I used to ejnoy films. I used to like playing the occassional video game. I don't even feel depressed or bored, I just feel like I have no motivation.
>>9786368
Relatable I can't do anything even though I have the time and the energy to do so it's like something is holding me back from taking action but I can't put my finger on it
>>9786368
Do you take care of yourself? Exercise, sleep, eat properly, etc? Get laid?
>>9786610
You know what, I was going to sit here and lie to you. But I really don't take care of myself the way I should. I exercise and pay attention to my diet for the most part, but I feel like I'm backsliding, here recently.
My wife actually said something to me the other day and I acted like a defensive manchild. She just said that she noticed I'm a little more on-edge than normal. And she's right.
I don't "Feel" depressed or sad or anything, but at the same time something has to be get me in this mindset.
I need to step away from the computer, go outside, and maybe actually READ for once. I haven't read for my own enjoyment in about a year. Everything I've read recently has been heavy-handed, argumentative, psuedo-intellecual garbage.
How did the Soviet Union produce two of the greatest artists that ever lived?
>>9786336
pic unrelated?
Tolstoy and Nabokov are indeed very great
>>9786336
The USSR goverment had a budget for culture. Tarkovsky is from a state institute of film and funding to art programs where decided by a board of reknowned art critics and not like american films today in which the broader the audience -> more money -> lets produce more shit films about marvel heroes.
ALSO Russia used to have a great intellectual tradition.
Because culture benefits from socialism/communism.
USSR wasn't communist though.
>novel is written in the first person
>novel is written in the second person
>Novel isn't written
>novel is written
HEMINGWAY BTFO
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/hemingways-hills-like-white-elephants-from-the-the-girls-point-of-view
>>9786229
>https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/hemingways-hills-like-white-elephants-from-the-the-girls-point-of-view
That was actually pretty funny, imo.
That being said, kinda just another instance of a millennial roastie getting buttblasted about old white male authors because it's easier to complain than produce something good.
Overall, I'm conflicted.
>>9786229
The story demonstrates all the man's lesser qualities expressly through dialogue, which is the point. He doesn't talk about it because he's the one that's way more terrified and so he forces a decision onto her. It would make a beautiful audition scene for a pair of actors.
If they wrote it all Molly Bloom it'd be fun because that takes actual talent instead of just an amateur competance in deconstruction.
>>9786229
That was a deeply resentful and ugly piece of writing
Martin's view on beauty, poetry, love, biology and especially society and politics completely resonated with me and then I found that Jack London was a socialist and that he was against Martin's political agendahence the suicideand that the book was actually supposed to be a critique of those kind of views
Had this happened to anyone else? I'm not the "read Sorrows of Young Werther and then kill yourself" type of reader, I genuinely agree with almost all of Martin's views
>>9786170
London also had a heavy fascist strain imo
ME is merely a book against individualism
>>9786890
I bet you believe he wrote Might Is Right.
London certainly was an alcoholic who mythologised himself (he only spent one winter in the Yukon IIRC) and sho on and he also treated his workers like shit I believe, but he did write a lot about socialism, including The Iron Heel (breddy good) and some short stories where le working man gets fucked over by le piggy capitalist.
Also did anyone think that Martin Eden was quite poorly plotted at times, especially when he ends up with the poor girl at the end having only met her once before then IIRC right near the start of the book. It's a good book though, believe what you want OP. London is very pro individual in the sense that he acknowledges the brutal struggle of life vis-a-vis (don't know what that means by my subconscious told me it fits here) nature and society require a great deal of self-reliance etc etc Martin Eden also inspired Nabokov and is mentioned in Pnin as having been hugely popular in Russia at the time
>>9787102
It was poorly plotted, but I don't think that was his main focus anyway. vis-a-vis means face to face so it kinda fits but not really
Does reading make you a superior person?
I've been thinking a lot about this. Part of me thinks that it's just a hobby like playing videogames, but every time I come across anyone even remotely smart and successful that person is always a reader. Do you guys think that regular reading should be part of a good self-development routine, like exercising and eating healthy? Or is it just a self-serving bourgeois interest, like listening to NPR?
Superior in what sense?
To be academically successful you have to read a lot, so there's that.
>>9786173
However you define superior. I'm thinking wealth, status, and happiness.
>>9786181
Since we usually measure success insofar as we have X more than everyone else does, I'd say anything you do with compulsion makes you superior to others in that category of what you're doing, but that does not come without problems. What I'm getting it as, there is no success without a dark side, so is it really the same superiority you're thinking of?
Who's the bigger meme?
YESH
Here I claim we see two sides of the same coin, ah yesh, both have a dedicated fanbase, and so on and so on. NO, I do not mean to see, you know, blah, blah, blah, and so on and so on NO my gott, what I mean to say is that essentially they are the same perverted beast, but, this I think is important, only one is funny
Define bigger meme. If funnier, Zizek. If more of a pseud, JBP.
*neurosciences behind you*
heh...
Well, what say you, /lit/?
>>9786136
Epicureanism
>>9786136
>hey what do you prefer between not following the teachings of Christ and not following the teachings of Christ?
Read Cicero (De Natura Deorum) and slightly side with stoicism.