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so after the announcment of the new troy tv show, which literary works are up for rape by a disgusting ideology next?
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>>9795477
>a disgusting ideology
which one?
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>>9795488
The one in the BBC that prevents Achilles from being blond
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>>9795488
the one that doesn't gove a shit about historical or cultural background as long as it can "promote minority rights" and "fight against racism" while being racist as fuck

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>He hasn't gone through a deep spiritual crisis and reawakened with the realisation that God exists.
>He still associates with a passé atheist movement led by washed up e-celebs and reads pseudo-profound low brow books.
>His atheism is a part of his identity.
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I'm actually an involuntary futuro-primitivist or involuntary meatslave of the artificial replicator future
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>>9795464
>he thinks people are either Christian or nu-atheist with no middle ground
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>>9795464
I had "babbys first existential crisis" and came out with the conclusion that worrying about any of that shit is a colossal waste of time

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Anyone else listen to this? How can people still have respect for Sam Harris after this curbstomp?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReKIJvOJDrs
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>DUNdun dun dun dun...
>(slow boring cosmic music that symbolizes Scott Hariss's massive intellect extending out into space)
>DUNdun dun dun dun....
>his rational dick thunders down reverberating the beat
>DUNdundundundundundun uplifting part the boundless sky is inside my rational hair

Welcome to the Waking up Postcast. This is Scott Harriss. Today....I am .....speaking to Sam....Adams....we had a......very......civil

>long pauses as massive intellect needs computational time to analyze the most rational way to express generative algorythms (only sounds unnatural to unevolved humans)
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>>9795290
Why can't i stop laughing right now.
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>>9795290
Anyone else think Scott's anti analogy position was lame from a rhetorical point of view?

I don't see a recent purchases thread. I'll just post mine because it was buried under all the pol nonsense in the "rate the pol haul" thread. There should be a new thread anyways.

Here's what came in recently. There's a few things that came before this that I didn't add to the picture, but I figure I'll just post these.

The Folio Society Sound And The Fury is great, in that it has colored text that indicates different time frames in the book, which is apparently how Faulkner intended it, as he outright states himself in a quote. So I'm pretty excited about that.

The quality of these Folio books is impressive. The buckram covers feel very sturdy, and the pages are very thick. The only one I'm not happy with is the older 1980s folio society to the lighthouse (at least, I think it's 80s). I should have gone for the easton press to the lighthouse, that one seems much nicer. Other than that, everything is great.

Easton Press is amazing. It really comes down to whether or not there's a really good looking folio vs EP. Sometimes Easton Press looks better and vice versa. Easton Press feels so high quality, the pages are super thick (perhaps slightly thicker than folio society), and the gold guilt and thick covers with the soft leather just feels amazing to hold and look at.

I also got the new translation of EDEN EDEN EDEN from Vauxhall&Company. This edition is beautiful. It's a very sturdily bound book, with thick cardboard like paper as a dust cover for the paperback. I love it when publishers do this sort of stuff for their paperbacks.

Looking forward to reading all of these. I'm currently reading Lolita, that's been taking me a while. I'll try to get around to reading Dracula come Halloween time. I'll probably be "getting around" to reading the Odyssey and the Iliad for years. I would love nothing more than just to stop time and go into a trance with a big book like the Iliad, but I get anxious about spending half year reading a single book.

I'm also getting in a folio society "master and margarita" pretty soon.
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>>9795228
You can read the Iliad in a week or two. It is not difficult to read, nor very long.

Did you just start reading?
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>>9795259
About a year and a half ago, reading seriously that is. I've finished about 14 books since, and plenty of other books I've read about 100 pages or so of and then put down, like blood meridian, moby dick, nausea, etc.

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Trying to comprehend a text without living within its specific zeitgeist/cultural milieu (I.E. reading the greeks) is just as reductive and appropriative as reading poetry in translation (I.E. Dante must be read in Italian, Goethe in German, ad nauseum)

Debate me.
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>>9795217

great works address all of humanity throughout all time
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>>9795220
How so? They certainly do not account for all the nuance and information which occurs over time. Parts of great works address parts of parts of humanity through part of the time. So why settle for partial answers?
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>>9795265

>How so?

There are fundamental aspects of being human that do not change so long as humans remain human. This is how it is possible for certain works to resonate long after their zeitgeist has faded away. You have it exactly backwards. A work's zeitgeist is actually the least important thing about it.

essential doomcore.

Doomporn:
The World Without Us - Alan Weisman
Fatal human nature:
John Gray books; Straw Dogs, Black Mass, False Dawn, The Silence of Animals

Collapse of societies:
The Great Leveler - Walter Scheidel
Wasted World - Rob Hengeveld
Collapse - Jared Diamond
War and Peace and War - Peter Turchin

Other: Nick Land
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>ctrl + the road
>0 results
>*cracks knuckles*
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>>9795296
>ctrl + f f
>0 results
>*feels like idiot*
>mission: complete
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>>9795296
>>9795302
I started with some non-fiction works and wanted to see how this thread would progress, if it ever does

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/LIT/: Dr. Harris, I'm /LIT/.
/K/: He wasn't alone.
/LIT/: You don't get to bring friends.
DR HARRIS: They're not my friends.
/K/: Don't worry, I'll vouch for them.
/LIT/: And why would I want them?
/K/: They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the columnist. The novella shitposter...
/LIT/: Girardfag??! ...... Get them on board, I'll call it in
[INSIDE PLANE]
/LIT/: The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Harris here. But only one of you!
[PLANE DOOR OPENS]
/LIT/: First one to talk gets to stay on the aircraft!!!
/LIT/: Who paid you to grab Dr. Harris? [No answer, gun fire past head out open door] He didn't fly so well! [Pulls guy back in to plane] Who wants to try next? Tell me about Girardfag!! Why does he write informative and thought-provoking posts!?! A lot of loyalty for a hired gun!!
GIRARDFAG: [Still has black hood on] Perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane.
/LIT/: At least you can talk. Who are you?
GIRARDFAG: It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
[/LIT/ SLOWLY TAKES OFF HOOD]
GIRARDFAG: No one cared who I was until I went incognito.
/LIT/: If I closed that tab would you die?
GIRARDFAG: It would be extremely painful....
/LIT/: You're a big guy!
GIRARDFAG: For you
/LIT/: Was getting caught part of your plan?
GIRARDFAG: Of course..... Dr. Harris refused my offer in favor of yours, we have to find out what he told you about me.
DR HARRIS: Nothing! I said nothing!!!
/LIT/: Well congratulations! You got yourself caught!
/LIT/ Operative: Sir!
/LIT/: Now whats the next STEP in your masterplan?!
GIRARDFAG: Crashing this board!........With no survivors!
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wow. wow wow
>also wow

/lit/ mimetosphere: all glory to
>4 evah & evah
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unironically the coolest, awesomest, most memetastic thing i have read.

thanks, OP. the legendary Bro-Fist of Figaro: given.

>what's the next STEP
fufufufu
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you idiots are giving girard a bad name

stop

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Why doesn't /lit/ ever talk about this guy? His works are genuinely patrish.
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>>9794995
are they, though? like, really?

i don't think they are
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>>9794995
/lit/ doesn't like Realism and Romantism much.
I don't either tbqh.
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>>9794995

I've only read his ghost stories. They were just ripoffs of Hawthorne and not as aesthetic. I don't have a strong urge to continue with him soon

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Dave.. easy on the footnotes..
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OP....easy on the shit threads
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Heh, welcome to the water, kid.
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>>9794766
there are clearly two books stacked on top of each other here, also, if you need this many bookmarks you're reading it wrong

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Any books on living in a cabin with no running water or electricity out in the woods?

Whenever I try to find these sort of survival or whatever you'd call it, all I find is the kind of "extreme survival", just living outside without a cabin, making fires and stuff like that.

I want just a decent book on living without the modern necessities, basically a book on your average cabin life pre-electricity.

How to preserve and ration your fish/meat/berries for the winter, how to build a smoker, how to haul your firewood back to the cabin and those sorts of things.
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/out/ is probably a better place to ask for it.
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>>9794600
>how to make due while living away from civilization without electricity or running water
basically
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>>9794600
Falk, The Resilient Farm and Homestead

Post interesting and unusual words

apricity - the warmness of the sun in winter
cynosure - something that attracts attention by its brilliancy or beauty; a centre of attraction, interest, or admiration
internecine - destructive to both sides in a conflict
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Ferruginous
1. Of, relating to, or containing iron (a ferruginous soil).
2. Resembling iron rust in color
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>impyling i'd ever divulge my /rare/ words
thing i would never do: the notion: the greentext. because, listen, i don't want to post a real juicy word here only to see some orgulous nimfadoro copping my shit
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>>9794562
Readers of Whitman and Melville are familiar with 'gloaming' for twilight. I like relatively simple words that have interesting (now) minor usages like 'buxom' for 'freely yielding' (as opposed to big-tittied) as when Milton's Satan hies him through the buxom air, etc. Ominous words like baleful, minatory and foreboding are less rare, but I like them. A Pyhrric Victory is what came to mind after reading your 'internecine,' made familiar from Plutarch. An odd word I have never had an occasion to use is eleemosynary (charitable) copt from the first few pages of Tom Jones.

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hello /lit/. i must say that i'm fucking depressed right now. I just moved from my country to study, from a 3rd world to a western country. I found out that instead of my romantic views towards living in a new place, exploring new culture and lifestyles, it is pretty much the same. everybody is pursuing vanity to a morbid level, no conversations are held in a deeper manner than gossiping or other menial subjects, nobody with a real passion for anything, and entertainment is whoring yourself out and getting drunk on a schedule. I feel that the world around me has gone mad and i'm the only sane person left.

I guess that what i'm not the first to complain about this. the big question is, if i read on existentialism will i be better or worse off?
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Keep in mind that no matter what is said what will dictate if it gets better or worse is your own interpretation of it.
A pillar of existentialism is understanding the futilness of existing and from that nothingness comes us and our being. Even though we don't need morals doesnt mean as mere beings we should understand what is good for the whole well being of us.
Existentialism is a Humanism is a good intro if you want to read into it.
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Existentialism is proxy-nihilistic garbage. There is not an existentialist that does not belong on a pyre.

Nihilists like you are the 'mad' ones. You've bought into sick memes, and now that sickness is killing you.
>>9794472
Humanism also belongs on a pyre. It is the death of serious love and fidelity and the rise of sick ideology.
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>>9794472
thank you. will take a look. It seems pretty short though. do you have any follow up recomendations?

No matter how much I read and how much I study I always feel like I dont really know anything at all. Is this just a normal undergraduate thing? Books on this theme and/or overcoming it?
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>>9794402
When i was your age i felt empty-minded, but i loved reading.
What youre doing now is gathering material, setting it adrift, adding more, and waiting for it all to come together. It will.
If nothing else right now youre honest, and that's a strong first step.
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>>9794438
>It will.
Don't be so convinced. Things don't magically work themselves out on their own.
>>9794402
In order to learn something you need to get practice. Don't just think really hard about. Think really hard about it and then try to apply it and see what happens. Then think really hard about it again.
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The secret is: repetition.

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>top 4
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>>9794399
Bottom half is literally who?
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>>9794433
Um, the scrotum of neocon America and that one Russian famous for being gravely depressing?
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>>9794433
The left half is literally who.

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I need more books like American Psycho.
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Ham on Rye
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>>9794218
I'll note that but I mean more in terms of content/theme/concept, things like:

- the late 1980s and early 90s (not wholly necessary though)
- the terrible state of humanity as of now (when book was written)
- neoliberalism, the far-right
- faux glamor of fame and fortune
- attrition of specialness
- humanity portrayed as somehow less than human
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>>9794268
Try BEE's other books m8. I especially recommend Less Than Zero.

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