Is there anything wrong with a strictly metaphorical reading of the Bible? Before ever touching the Bible, I read a lot of Plato and Aristotle, and after finishing the Old Testament recently I've found myself reconciling my former beliefs by taking the words of the Bible as metaphor.
Tell me: is there anything wrong with viewing God as the highest Form?
>>9819124
>beliefs
what a low IQ concept.
Stop treating the bible like it's a single book. Ask yourself, is there anything wrong with a strictly metaphorical reading of the county library? It's a nonsensical question. The bible, like the library, is a collection of books with a variety of genres written by a variety of authors separated by thousands of years with a variety of intended audiences. You have to consider each book on its own first before you can treat it in the context of the whole.
>is there anything wrong with viewing God as the highest Form?
You're looking for Aquinas.
>>9819124
No, it makes more sense that way. Read Maps of Meaning.
What are some books that are cozy and also great reads?
>>9819120
Gormenghast
The Magic Mountain.
Robinson Crusoe.
> be visiting Dublin and taking a tour bus
>the Irish bus driver providing commentary asks over the PA if anybody on board has read Ulysses
>I raise my hand
>"Uh-oh! Best watch out everybody, because PROFESSOR YANK here has read Ulysses"
>"All hail the might intellect of PROFESSOR YANK, who has sat down, and yes, read every dense and allegorical page of James Joyce's modernist masterpiece, Ulysses"
>everybody on the bus is now staring at me
>whenever he stops the bus to point out a literary landmark he runs it by me, "the professor"
>"say professor, do recognize that building over there?"
>I don't know and shrug
>"Sorry folks, I guess PROFESSOR YANK hasn't done his homework! That building to our right is of course the iconic hotel where Nora Barnacle, James Joyce's muse, worked as a chambermaid for a number of years. Not to worry, I'm sure PROFESSOR YANK will get the next one"
>this continues for an hour and half
>the Dutch girls in the back of the bus are laughing at me and making fun of the flat cap I bought on Grafton street
>when I finally get off at Kilmainham Gaol the entire bus cheers
>as he's closing the doors, the driver says over the intercom "See you next term, PROFESSOR YANK"
you got what you deserved
>>9819074
Then everyone stood up and clapped
>>9819074
good pasta but seen it too many times to care
i think house of leaves was the last thing to get a few tears out of me, several years ago
A book never made me cry
>>9818979
this, i wish i wasn't as emotionally accessible
Anything Thomas Hardy
I'm trying to get a comprehensive list of texts from arcaic greece or at least texts that accurately reference that period and its epics, heroes and mythology.
So far I've read the Illiad and Odyssey (duh), Hesiod's Theogony, Pseudo-Apollodorus' Biblioteke, Quintus de Smyrna's Post-Homerica and Apollonius Rhodius' Argonautica.
Anything that might be of my interest? This is all a preamble before I go back to studying greek philosophy from the presocratics to Plato's students' students.
bump?
please
nemo?
what's good about goethe's faust? i don't get it
>>9818834
read more and come back to it when you're older
also bookmark this page/save a screenshot and revisit it when you're older so you can have a hearty chuckle at the follies of youth
>>9818834
pt 2 is incredibly difficult and requires familiarity with ancient and scholastic mysticism. pt 1 is a classic reworking of the classic faustus legend and is a fun read even independently of its importance.
the guy took decades to finish it, so it will probably take some time to understand it, as well.
also, im sure its much better in german.
>>9818870
well after pt 1 i dont give a fuck about pt 2
>>9818843
tell me what's the profound truth about women? gretchen is not like any women irl. the older one gets, the less one can even relate to faust being attracted to something as artificial as her.
>but thats not real gretchen, it's the idealistic image of gretchen inside faust's mind. she's not a woman, she's a symbol for pure truth. an unreachable thing in itself.
ZZZZZzz, there must be more to an alleged masterpiece
What's the worst book you were required to read for primary school?
>>9818735
you posted it
how the fuck could anyone think that was the worst shit theyve read
harry potter
Are Norton Critical Editions worth the extra money? How about if you already own the book?
>>9818708
ive heard they are definitive. i decided to go with the NCE for moby dick because the annotations are on the page and im pretty sure that all of the editions come with criticism essays in the back as well as a decent introduction.
if its an important, difficult work or one of your favorites that you wish to explore more, get them. alternatively, most of the "classics" editions have bibliographies that will allow for secondary sources to explore the texts. norton just does a good job of presenting it for you.
>>9818708
they're very good, especially if you want a "deeper" understanding of the work. the critical essays can be hit or miss but they aim to give you a sense of the wide range of approaches twoards critically studying any particular work
in any case, the annotations, footnotes/endnotes, and immediate supplementary material (reproductions of the primary sources that were cited in the text, for example) are almost uniformly excellent.
now whether or not that's "worth it" is a diff matter. maybe try to find gently used copies.
>>9818708
Only if you're interested in the academic approach to the book or you're working with text from before the 19th century and you need the critical apparatus to understand cultural background and references.
What's the essential difference between an existentialist and an absurdist? I have struggles figuring that out.
The way I understand it, put simply, an existentialist recognizes the lack of objective meaning but strives to creates his own?
And maybe an Absurdist recognizes the lack of meaning too, but instead of trying to spite it by creating his own, he simply accepts it but goes on living anyway? And but then what does he do and for what reason? Things he likes because he likes them? Is he then not just a hedonist?
>>9818651
No because an actual hedonist would say that pleasure is meaning.
You're trying to reduce absurdism to being in the world because you're correctly perceiving that pure absurdism is basically an unsustainable position.
So, absurdism as a transient perception and absurdism as a sustained philosophy aren't really the same thing.
>>9818651
Existentialism and Absurdism are hard to differentiate between because they're compatible to a point where the line blurs, but the difference is perception and practice.
Existentialism in a sentence says that existence precedes essence. This leads to the idea that there is no objective purpose.
Absurdism says that we cannot know whether or not there is purpose even any rhyme or reason in the universe, but we must revolt against this absurdity by forging our own purpose, treating our subjective purpose as though it were objective purpose.
Camus didn't consider himself an absurdist, but the two philosophies connect pretty neatly
>>9818710
>Camus didn't consider himself an absurdist
He didn't consider himself an existentialist, my bad
How do you feel about not being able to read most authors in their original language? Also, what language do you think is the best when it comes to prose, ie conveying emotion, being aesthetically pleasant...?
Pic related, reading it in Spanish is such a ride.
>>9818617
I can't speak every language perfectly and you'd be hard pressed to find someone who does, BUT the French language has this extraordinary puzzle-piece structure that gives remarkable clarity to sentences that are written well. Good French, if you can read it, really jumps out of the page in its clarity. I don't speak much Russian and i imagine that it has a similar effect on literature. Flaubert spoke about finding 'le mot juste' and this is something which in French burns with a type of satisfaction to which even sex pales in comparison
>conveying emotion: greek
>being aesthetically pleasant: french/english
of course, i haven't studied many outside of these, so my scope is limited
>conveying emotion
They're probably all the same at that, but German is famed for its vocabulary for emotions.
>aesthetics
I'm biased as hell towards my own language, so portuguese.
Stuff that you could curl up and read on a chilly Fall or Winter day.
I discovered early that crying makes my nose red, and the knowledge has helped me through several painful episodes.
>>9818577
>Fall
Sup /lit/
I have a favor to ask. My parents are currently going through a divorce. While my mother is already moving on and starting to go out with other men, my father is becoming more and more depressed as the days go on. What books can I give him that will help him see through this part of his life? I can't stand to see him like this anymore, it really hurts. I was thinking of pic related. Thoughts?
Please help
Yes going to think you are a faggot. Find him a woman half the age of your mom to fuck.
You can try to become a non-failure of a son, I'm sure it will help him.
>>9818571
Take him out to the firing range and then grab some beers and watch some football you stupid faggot. He needs purpose and love and his son is certainly capable of filling those needs since you're mother is a whore you dumb fuck. He doesn't want to read a fucking book and get intellectual when he's feeling down, not teenager/YA down, but really down
And I say this as meditations is my favorite book btw
What's a good word that means being stupid on purpose?
>>9818371
crafty
dingus
/lit/, i read this several years ago in the abridged version that most schools hand out. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but was wondering if the full version is worth reading now? Have many of you finished the full version? It's quite lengthy and I'm not sure how much more it has to offer than the shortened.
>inb4 read it in french
Read it in Greek
>>9818364
Homeric Attic, Koine, or Modern?
>>9818347
The full version greatly expands characters such as Bendetto and I'd say it is definitely worth it. The Wordsworth Classic I think is cheap and unabridged, including mistakes Dumas and his translator made such as character names and dates. I laughed at loud at a few of the more acerbically witty footnites. I absolutely recommend it.
WIttgenstein is a poor man's Russell.
>>9818214
Yes, very.
>>9818214
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFXWKEc84ew