>for a large class of cases of the employment of the word "meaning" - though not for all - this word can be explained in this way: the meaning of a word is its use in the language.
what are the exceptions?
>>9851902
An arbitrary utterance? As if a speaker of another language were talking gibberish?
Or, when someone tries to define said word?
>>9852116
What did he mean by this?
>>9852116
he would just say that had no meaning, unless it was used to reflect pain or something. at the beginning of the book he talks about a pssage from augustine and its description of language as 'ostensive' - like when you point and say a word when first learning to speak. i think maybe he is saying that process pins things down for us as kids just long enough for us to climb up, that his description of language in the tractatus is sometimes applicable when we first are learning, but that once we've gotten up, we can kick the ladder down like he said
>The initially negative response to the story surprised both Jackson and The New Yorker. Readers cancelled subscriptions and sent hate mail throughout the summer. The Union of South Africa banned the story.
>top 5 fiction
>top 5 non-fiction
>top 5 movies
>>9851834
>ulysses
>pedro paramo
>nescio
>moby dick
>the leopard
>PI
>patrick leigh fermor
>ego + its own
>zarathustra
>casanova's diaries
>barry lyndon
>blow-up
>abecedaire
>days of heaven
>kids
>>9851834
That image makes me want pizza
tomorrow I vow to eat some nice pizza
>>9851844
Hi /lit/, dumb highschool dropout hikiNEET /v/irgin /a/non here. Recently my crippling anxiety and depression has driven me to a point where I've actually begun to try and change myself (hopefully for the better) and now I'm thinking about broadening my horizons by reading some literature for the first time in my life.
Would starting with big titles like Crime and Punishment, No Longer Human, Beyond Good and Evil, The Art of War, and Ten Little Niggers be a good idea? As silly as it sounds, I honestly have no idea what the fuck I'm doing. Should I just shut the fuck up and read something instead of blogshitting?
First you must wear this dress
comet suiced posrenormfagbro
>>9851774
the greeks, anon. start with them
You’re normal,
But you can drive yourself crazy.
You can drive yourself healthy
Too.
What a fool I was.
I mean am.
Two of us live here.
It’s hard to say
If one is louder
Than the obvious
Other.
I mean one of us.
But what about O.J.?
Did he suffer from a fate delay,
Bury private thoughts away
While picking from his karma jar
On the rainiest day in October?
Guilty, not guilty,
Can’t mistrial, hung jury,
Hire the Dream Team, plead sincerity:
Keep the culture guessing. Neither bar
Nor deity will ensure you’re sober.
No in’s-n-out’s
In the Garden of Eden
I had to forgive wrong
To pardon the heathen
Of his crime
Felonious slime
The doctor’s tight time
Racked quite a bill
Both her husbands couldn’t
Climb that hill
On their way
To payday
Johnny’s Jokers say
He’s out of luck
His father’s bosses say
He picked their buck
From up on high
Caused me to cry
For every birth she'll die
I'm in a really bad mood so I'm just going to piss on all yall parades.
>>9851766
>you're normal
I'm not.
>but you can drive yourself crazy
pretty fucking generic thing to say
>you can drive yourself healthy
so you thought putting "drive" before the opposite was clever or something
>too
no, don't do that. Don't create new lines for no reason.
>Two of us live here
who of what lives where now
>It's hard to say
you have nothing to say?
>If one is louder
>Than the obvious
>Other
I'm pretty sure none of that means fucking anything
>I mean one of us
You mean nothing, say something proper. Using words like us and other and one and I and putting them in different lines, that's nothing, get a bit more specific and personal
>>9851768
>O.J
>Delay
really?....Really?
October and sober?
Fuck this
>>9851771
great more fucking rhymes
felonious? Like thelonious monk or something?
man rhyme always makes me not give a fuck choose words based of inherent value according to your soul's proclivities not some arbitrary fashioning of the end syllables of words
>For every birth she'll die
Life implies death really cool observation there bucko
Does anyone have a digital copy of this book?
>>9851720
Tried searching for it. No luck m8.
How bad is the writing in this book /lit/? the /a/utist who wrote it took all the worst aspects of Evangelion, Discworld, Vinland Saga and other children's cartoons he's seen.
https://www.docdroid.net/bZzA2Pf/aaron-book-1-chorrier-rise.pdf.html
>>9851690
>Vinland Saga
>children's cartoon
what
>>9851690
Shit bait.
>>9851721
YA cartoon then. Happy?
Can someone tell me why people here hate murakami? Pic related was one I finished recently and I thoroughly enjoyed it. The surreal narrative along with the detail in the way he describes his environment is exactly what made it so comfy. Do you guys hate it just because normies use his work to look intellectual? For anyone who has read his stuff, are his other books as good? (read hard boiled wonderland, didn't find it as interesting)
I dunno, maybe because people here like reading literature
>>9851674
>Do you guys hate it just because normies use his work to look intellectual?
Do they? Not disputing it. Just wondering.
>>9851674
I didn't find it unenjoyable, but it was too long for what it was desu. I failed to really see any merit in it other than being entertaining and learning a little about Nomonhan and so on.
Still, I would recommend Murakami to a lot of people.
How many of you have, or even aspire to, fully committing to your dream of being a writer? Or if not a writer then whatever else it is?
Inevitably you come face to face with your lack of experiential wealth, you wonder what in your life that you've experienced is really even worth anything, can't be translated into something interested, and maybe perhaps then you'd like to contrive with your imagination worlds of experience totally unknown to your own, ...
Can we mourn together how bereft of beauty modern industrial commercial soccer mom netflix mcdonalds parking lot life is?
Where are we to seek beauty if the whole external world has been inundated with banality?
1. It has nothing to do with experiential dearth / wealth
2. Authors wages are at an all-time low and declining each year
3. Like it or not, contemporary publishing industry will think twice before spending their time + money publicizing a straight white male author when they could promote a woman or nigger instead
>Where are we to seek beauty?
The answer is 4chan. Write a book and post it on /lit/ for free. If it has any value, it'll gain meme traction and people will encourage you to self-publish it and will pay for it.
>>9851608
I'm not very satisfied with your answer there.
Actually, I'm more concerned about writing something beautiful for my own sake. I would sooner be tormented by my inability to create something beautiful that gives me zero dollars than my ability to create something banal that gives me millions
I'm already a bitch to the system as a minimum wage worker, that part of my pride and integrity is long gone
>>9851588
Well I did get an English degree instead of something "useful" so I've committed to it. I've done a lot to get out in the world so I'd have something to write about. You need to make your own luck, that's a part of being creative.
There are still good and interesting things in the modern world but you need to discover them on your own.
Why did all of his stories take place in Europe instead of the United States?
>>9851553
Because he simply enjoyed the euro aesthetic?
I'm a subhuman Brazilian, but when I write I always imagine first world scenarios, I don't wanna write in any place of Brazil because its simply boring
>>9851562
Why not write in Brazil and elevate it to a level that you have not seen in your own country's work heretofore? Also, anon, don't refer to yourself as subhuman, it's demeaning. Ask more of yourself and then live up to it.
>>9851628
Every Brazilian has subhuman gene in them, the first world sent their scum when they colonized us
Besides the lack of nationalism since Brazil was always looked like a golden mine for the people in power here, I hate the hot and wet climate from my country and I hate my countrymen even more for not reading and being stupid overall
I'm just grateful for my mother who taught me how to read when I was 2 so I never stopped from there, portuguese is alrighty so its a shame I hate my country
Is interesting prose enough to be considered a great writer? If not, what makes somebody a great writer?
>>9851550
Someone bothered enough to write a response please answer OP. I'm intrigued myself.
Can we discuss some of Pilkey's work?
Personally, I feel he reached his philosophical peak at Captain Underpants and the Invasion of the Incredibly Naughty Cafeteria Ladies from Outer Space (and the Subsequent Assault of the Equally Evil Lunchroom Zombie Nerds).
>>9851519
>Personally, I feel he reached his philosophical peak at Captain Underpants and the Invasion of the Incredibly Naughty Cafeteria Ladies from Outer Space (and the Subsequent Assault of the Equally Evil Lunchroom Zombie Nerds).
Agreed. So many profound passages like this one.
Really makes you think...
I don't get it, how can a man have a husband? Are they just really good friends or something?
tao...easy on the dmt
Why has the quality of contemporary literature been so stagnant? What went wrong? What will improve it?
The internet killed sincere art by bastardizing it into self help echo chambers. The only quality art nowadays is ironic, like milliondollarextreme and james ferraro. But it would make sense that art no longer carries meaning in society, what with the upcoming mechanization of reality in2 hyperreality
>>9851346
There's a thread up about publishing and the industry behind it that answers this question.
Writing is now as formulaic and incestuous as Hollywood, and only concerned with the bottom line. There are probably thousands of experimental and QUALITY works out there that will never see the light of day because no one in the industry will devote any time or money to them.
It's all one big eye roll pointed to anyone who tries to write for an original set of standards.
>>9851370
t. self publisher
The actual answer is womemes and cucks
>reading at the bar
Why do faggots do this? This is literally the most attention seeking thing imaginable. Maximum cringe.
>>9851297
Bozo... easy on the booze.
>>9851297
I've only seen it once. Short haired atheist chick reading the Bible.
spewed some nonsense at her 100%
I read at the bar, fuck you.