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How is it?
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>>9863791
Good
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Bloated and often tedious. It also peaks with the fourth book and Erikson becomes more and more preachy as the series progresses. But the battles are top notch and it certainly feels epic.
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>>9863791
Far and away the best epic fantasy ever written. It gets a little more dense as it goes on, so a lot of people like to say the later books are worse, but I honestly thought it got better towards the end. The Crippled God is an almost perfect ending.

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I've drafted together a basic outline of my outline of my novel.
>man wanders a dying world
Where do I go from here /lit/? I'm thinking of making it a political fiction; maybe something similar to Kino's Journey: similar in plot, or lack of, but exploring philosophical ideas.

Also, is he, dare I say it, /ourguy/?
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>>9863758
Holy fucking shit we don't care
Write something or don't post it here you dickhead
Any phillistine can come up with a one line plot
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>>9863767
That's barely even a plot. At least come up with one possible scenario that happens on his journey.
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Serious question that will help you: what do you know about dying?

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Post required reading for those who want to become Machiavellian, edgy and powerful as fuck.
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>>9863716
shut up dumb fuck faggot
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>>9863716
-Sun Tzu
-Von Clausewitz
-Machiavelli
-Plato's Republic
-Nietzsche
-Stirner
-Ayn Rand
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>>9863751
>Stirner

Please stop.

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Why aren't there any books about existence as a virgin male?
Every recommendation I see for a book about an outcast or a misfit inevitably involves some chad non-virgin.
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>>9863547
The Temptations of St. Anthony, Flaubert.
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>>9863547
my twisted world
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Bukowski's Ham on Rye

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He doesn't show a drop of emotion until the priest shows up and tells him god exists. Why?
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Dogma, defense mechanism, denial.
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Why should I, or anyone for that matter, read Camus before Plotinus?
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>>9863470
Because he got triggered.

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Are there any books that handle the realities of being an adventurer/warrior in a high fantasy setting like Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash? Before you sound the weeaboo alarms, I only mean things such as the harsh lifestyle of supporting your group, finding lodging, developing tactics, the intimacy of killing, keeping supplies of food, etc. I prefer the slow and realistic pace of this kind of survival. I would rather be immersed into the financial and dynamic team struggles of a guild as opposed to reading about them running off to thwart an ancient evil and such. I appreciate the behind-the-scenes nuances in this kind of settings more than what we're usually accustomed to from fantasy.

Any recommendations? Don't tell me to read the light novel, please. I'm pretty much curious if there's a western kind of equivalent to this.
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>>9863466
Gene Wolfe's Boom of the New Sun (except the tactics thing)
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>>9863482
Interesting, wasn't expecting any recs of the science-fiction variety but I'll definitely give it a look.
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>>9863521
It's really closer to fantasy than sci-fi.

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just fuck off to reddit
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>>9863442
>le quirky eyebrow raising man
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>>9863445
He more info on Peterson, not Harris.

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You guys lied to me. This shit gave me chills.
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>>9863356
White text on black background is best, black text on white page came about as an economic and practical necessity that can easily be corrected by modern technology

anyone who disagrees is a Luddite
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>Describing the door

Dropped
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>>9863364
+or has shit taste

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Alright, accept this, this is most of /lit/:

>thinks he knows about postmodernism because he's read Pynchon, DFW, etc
>BUT he hasn't read Nicanor Parra

What's your excuse? Oh, you haven't heard of him?

Let me tell you. 60 years ago he attempted to change our comprehension in a lot of levels (even and if not most important, ecologically, you can look this up) and yet everyone still thinks his poems are "lol so random" or just "quirky stuff about everyday life".

Not many people know this, but if Parra was more appropriately read, we wouldn't still be floating in this void called postmodernism.

The problem with our current culture that DFW attempted to resolve was already solved 60 YEARS ago by Parra, but no one seemed to notice.

Very few academics really "get" what he did. It's not an easy task, but I encourage you, /lit/, to read Nicanor Parra, and why not, study him, it's really needed right now.

As a bonus I'll add that Nicanor Parra was Bolaño's favorite poet by far.
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>>9863188
Thanks anon. Never heard of this guy, but this sort of obscure shit is what keeps me coming back to /lit/
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And as I thought, it seems nobody on /lit/ knows Parra.

Because why would you care about this crazy old man from this third world country?

It's not like he invented anti-poetry AND worked as a Physicist.
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>>9863446
...at the same time.

I fundamentally mistrust all history books. It is an irrational paranoia. I constantly doubt any historian's capacity for objectivity.

This is wrong and stupid, right?
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You're not wrong, but you're not going to get very far in history by going all Descartes. I can read an official primary source document detailing sugar import figures in colonial America and think to myself maybe these guys were just fudging these numbers to get out of paying taxes and then the entire premise I'm working off of is a lie even though I had no intention of being biased. This is /lit/ btw.
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>>9863215
It is /lit/, but /his/ is shit, and this sorta /fits/, dog.

Yes, the evil genius hypothesis/meme is basically what I'm falling for. Good point about the erroneous records. Still uncertain.
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>>9863215
you can go full L Ron Hubbard and start believing that nothing before 1920 actually happened. It's all lies, perpetrated by Galactic Emperor Xenu

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Is contemporary lit somewhat stagnant because it has dragged its feet alongside rapidly developing new media? Is it possible that cybertext will overtake the codex? The term "electracy" was coined by Gregory Ulmer to describe a proficiency at navigating and exploiting new media communication. Is it possible that we're stultified because of a refusal to move beyond the codex and into a poetics of cybernetics? A poetics that has the potential to do what Arabic numerals did to Western mathematics?
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>>9863093
Hypertexts are interesting, but belong in the ludonarrative category with sculpture and video games.
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>>9863093
This is the introduction of Lyotard's "The Differend" from 1983. I posted it a few days ago, didn't get much discussion, but I think it's a relevant topic to bring up.

"So. in the next century there will be no more books. It takes too long to read, when success comes from gaining time. What will be called a book will be a printed object whose "message" (its information content) and name and title will first have been broadcast by the media, a film, a newspaper interview, a television program, and a cassette recording. It will be an object from whose sales the publisher (who will also have produced the film, the interview, the program, etc.) will obtain a certain profit margin, because people will think that they must "have" it (and therefore buy it) so as not to be taken for idiots or to break (my goodness) the social bond! The book will be distributed at a premium, yielding a financial profit for the publisher and a symbolic one for the reader."

>"Philosophers have never had instituted addressees, which is nothing new. The reflection's destination is also an object of reflection. The last of last year's line has been around a long time. So has solitude. Still there is something new: the relation to time (I am tempted to write the "use of time") that reigns today in the "public space." Reflection is not thrust aside today because it is dangerous or up- setting, but simply because it is a waste of time. It is "good for nothing," it is not good for gaining time. For success is gaining time. A book, for example, is a success if its first printing is rapidly sold out. This finality is the finality of the economic genre. Philosophy has been able to publish its reflections under the guise of many genres (artistic, political, theological, scientific, anthropological), at the price, of course, of misunderstandings and grave wrongs, but still.... whereas economic calculation seems fatal to it.The differend does not bear upon the content of the reflection. It concerns (and tampers with) its ultimate presuppositions. Reflection requires that you watch out for occurrences, that you don't already know what's happening. It leaves open the question: Is it happening ? It tries to keep up with the now (a belabored word). In the economic genre, the rule is that what happens can happen only if it has already been paid back, and therefore has already happened. Exchange presupposes that the cession is canceled in advance by a counter-cession, the circulation of the book being canceled by its sales. And the sooner this is done, the better the book is."
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>>9863093
Renaud Camus has been writing Vaisseaux Brûlés, an enormous work made of hypertext links, since 1998 on his website.

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Where to start with continental philosophy?
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>>9862988
Hegel, Marx, Nietzsche most likely. Honestly, not the most interesting stuff, but it's the foundation. Having read some Freud and classic philosophy will help too.
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The Greeks.
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>>9863008
this
also kant

This has really pretty prose and a clever story, but i feel like there was a philosophical level to the story that i totally missed
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Plebs shouldn't read Mishima.
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>>9862964
Everyone should read Mishima why are you such an elitist prick
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Its basically just babbys first Nietzsche and the kid partly resembled Mishima.

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Hasn’t history proven that Marx’s vision of an egalitarian utopia is unattainable, inevitably creating an oligarchy more oppressive to the proletariat than the bourgeoisie it vilifies?
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Yes, but that won't stop utopians.
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Hasn’t history proven that Leonardo Da Vinci's vision of a flying machine is unattainable, inevitably creating a thing that doesn't fly?
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>>9862905
We're not talking about flying machines, you dumb fuck.

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Reading and immersing myself in literature--reading and writing--has turned me into an introvert. What gives, /lit/? Did I get meme'd?
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Nothing wrong with introversion (the good, focused & productive kind, not that faggy muh depression/anxiety type). Besides you can easily switch back and forth if you really want to.
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I hate your shit thread.
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>>9862850
Being passionate about reading and writing has made me a shut-in. It's a vastly superior way of life, and I get annoyed if I am asked to be around people now.

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