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I will bump because I wanna see what others will say to op, seeing I dont know how to awnser him and I am vary curious over this.

Have you read The Sun and the Fish by Woolf?

>>9884698
I will, love Woolf but did not know about this.

krishnamurti just ripped off stirner

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j krisnamurti the pussy slayer

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>kills your guru
>kills the self
>kills your self
>grabs your bitch
>eats 20 packets of sugar
>makes papads
>sleeps for 3 hours

>he doesn't understand the irony

Typischer

>>9884162
NIce image editing.

>>9884180
Nice replying to the OP's post number.

>>9884162
Lovecraft, he's basically just a Lovecraft LARPer

>>9884156
can't see any up yet. it's pretty close to the release date, so you're going to probably get a shitty cinema recording unless it's leaked. saging for obvious reasons

>>9884186
It came out two days ago

>>9884156
I saw a preview for this film. It looks fucking terrible.

>>9884155
...Usually all the deeper meaning is addressed in the journey.
What are you on about?

If you want more in depth stuff, learn the Hero's Journey.
Also Dan Harmon is surprisingly insightful in terms of writing process. (Google his story structure circle.)

Just finish the lecture. Surely they are gonna go more in-depth. Establishing a goal and conflict/obstacle is literally writing 100.1
And you don't HAVE to do it.

>>9884155
Most writers are plebs writing for plebs and have the imagination of a vacuum salesman.

People want what they want, and often they don't want to admit what they want, so it has to be veiled and moralized when told in story form.

To take a pleb example from pleb media, the nerd, which is to say that guy we all know with the center parted hair, suspended shorts, and a short sleeved shirt with many pens in its pocket, this very realistic character wants to murder the jock, an equally realistic character that dwells in the pleb imagination.

(The pleb imagination is full of stereotypes. Bubba who wants you to drop the soap, the middle aged balding guy with the flashy car, the cat lady, the rich southern asshole in the white suit whose job is to be wrong in a smug way - such a rich cultural universe these plebs inhabit.)

But back to the point. In this pleb drama, Poindexter wants to kill Jock. He wants to humiliate him in return for the humiliates he has received. But instead the pleb writer veils and moralizes his pleb drama, and instead has events play out so that the nerd turned out not be a nerd after all, the jock turned out to be a coward, the ugly girl turned out to be beautiful without requiring laser eye surgery or liposuction.

Everyone celebrates and the novel is peacefully resolved without ever touching the raw nerve of reality.

Bear this in mind when pleb writers talk about their character's "moral choices" and "emotional journey." And if the writer starts banging on about how writers are "just entertainers," run for the hills, because he's gone full prole punchclock on you.

So, basically, you're asking: why choose a certain topic? Or, equivalently, how does a writer choose a topic/plot/storyline?

There isn't a good answer for that. Ultimately, the writer might play around with various low level plots before combining them for high level, thematic consistency; or, they will straight away have a story with legs that works on both a low level and a high level.

Most great novels are essentially 2-3 main topics/plots and maybe a dozen subtopics/plots combined together, all starting and stopping at different points.

The Perfidy of the Netherlanders

The Innumerable Crimes of the Dutchmen

Three Sheets to the Wind: Dutch Cuckolds in the Golden Age of Sail

Dutch Merchant Capital and the Invention of the Glory Hole

The Secret Lives of Lowland Wives

Dike-Kikes: How the Dutch Plundered Asia

No, faggot

>>9884135

Cave ab homine unius libri - sed duo lepores qui insequitur, neutrum capit. Pueris decantatum est.

Age quod agis.

>>9884135
The English of Thomas Taylor. He was well versed in both Greek and Latin, so he worked from both Greek originals and Ficino, noticing and correcting flaws in certains places. Get the edition issued by Prometheus Trust.

Taylor was also unique in the respect that his Platonism reached it's apex with Proclus, surprisingly unadulterated, whereas that of the Renaissance was quite heavy on it's eclecticism.

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seriously not even kidding

>>9884103
gnosticism literally is an anime just read the apocryphon of john

>>9884103
not a book but a manga, read Naoki Urasawa's Pluto

The story of you being born was the story of a man leaving a cave. The story of me visiting your mom last night was the story of a philosopher entering a cave.

>>9883995
jon atak's book on scientology (piece of blue sky) could be pretty helpful. i guess steve hasan too (anti-cult psychologist, has written a few books on combatting mind control)

>>9884006

quick question: are you retarded?

can anyone give me a real rec here? someone who actually knows what they're talking about?

>>9883978
>20 years old
>late in life

You feel older than you are. I swear that the 20's are way worse than puberty/teens. My 20's have so far been the worst time of my life.

>>9884000
The only bad part of being a teenager is being an early teenager.

When you turn 20, you're forced to deal with the real world, and it's a world that feels old to you.

>>9883951
What do you know of Christian thought generally?
Seems like you just want anything from the Neoscholastics about Natural Law and also the Scholastic 'School of Salamanca'.

>>9884057
Very little.

I'm reading about Christian theology, but I'm interested in how Christian thought/practice shaped Western values. Why is/was Christianity important for the development of the rule of law or the freedom of speech, thought and assembly?

>>9884153
>I want to know what is and what isn't in the Bible without ever reading the Bible
Every fucking time

The Anti-Fragile takes a very interesting approach to addressing the things that hold you back. Whenever I start getting autistic and anxious about shit, I always come back to that one and The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck.

Wow, never expected to see Kazantzakis brought up on /lit/. Haven't read that one specifically but have heard a lot of praise for it. Check out The Fratricides if you haven't already OP.

just watch the scorcese movie its like a better version of DUNE