Is there any poetry that surpasses or at least matches the greatest music? (Beethoven, Mozart, that kind of stuff) I don't think there is, but let me know what you think, /lit/
>>9932752
>Greatest music
>Mozart
top kek
>>9932752
I think you wrote that question backwards.
Is there any music that surpasses or at least matches the greatest poems? I don't think there is.
I also find it strange that you included Beethoven and Mozart after "greatest music" as if they apply?
>start making an original world in which to write a story
>realize I've made two continents separated by an easily navigable sea
>realize I've made a massive undead army which threatens the world
>realize I've made an a rebel wizard who opposes the old order
>realize I've made a mountain-dwelling race of short people
>realize I've made a magic-savvy, intellectual race of dainty, slim people
>realize I've made a brutish, belligerent horde of muscular savages out to conquer more land for themselves
How the FUCK do you come up with original ideas? Everything I think of has already been done.
>>9925723
>How the FUCK do you come up with original ideas? Everything I think of has already been done.
its simply really. firstly you need to understand that all of the ideas are come from are destined to be repeated much like history. and quite so as it is the continent exploration and Japanese hermits chanting the lotus supra. times not unlike the present will reconcile you with the sad fate that your work is not original but there is a problem. and that is this: if you look at all the other work you you will realize it is only as unique as you permit it to be. so for instance if you wish to name a character don't, it is who the reader will think of it is in his imagination, then if that is unoriginal it is not your fault.
If you can't come up with original ideas, just turn them on their heads:
>the two continents are so far apart only few can travel between them, but both continents are still important to the story
>the undead are actually the good guys
>the old order was actually established to protect the world against a greater evil (and not the undead, btw); your rebel wizard is knowingly or unknowingly being used by this greater evil
>make your dwarves scholarly but stubborn, and live above ground
>make your elves the dumb savages, who wield magic but are unable to control it well (leading to chaos when they attempt to use it)
>your pseudo-orcs are not mindless conquerors, but are just migrating because they're escaping an even greater evil (see point about the old order)
>>9925723
what the fuck happened to the black sea
What does /lit/ think of this guy?
Did you like 4321?
new york shit isn't literature
New York trilogy is absolutely fantastic and one of my favorite books
Everything else I've read by him has just made me wish I reread NY trilogy
>>9925683
So many flyovers on this board. Any time NY is even alluded to they have to cry about it.
Do we agree?
>>9932650
Different subject but one of the many things I hate about Rowling is her use of passive language.
> sat down behind her desk, frowning
Just say
> sat down behind her desk and frowned
It's seen by a lot of people as a hallmark of bad writing, yet she is lauded as an example for children.
>>9932792
Wow, it's almost as if writing has no "rules" and you can make anything sound good if you're a practiced enough writer.
I bet you think you also think you always have to show and never tell?
>>9932792
There's a difference in meaning though.
Just finished pic related. What are everyone's thoughts about it? Do you think Shade's poem stands up as a great poem in its own right?
The structure is fun and Nab's prose is enjoyably extravagant as usual. I don't think Shade's poem is great poetry, but it's perfectly fine as a vehicle for the novel.
Not really. Fantastic book though
I think Shade's poem has some very good parts. It's not amazing, but it's pretty good, and when you tie it in with the rest of the book it becomes incredible. The way the two communicate is just great. Kinbote's notes are also interesting in an independent fashion.
Finished reading The Sorrows of Young Werther. Where do I go on from there? By the way, I'm interested in reading only his fiction.
>>9925657
Read Die Wahlverwandtschaften.
Or how about Faust?
>>9925864
>or how about Faust
I'm waiting to read his magnum opus, as I want to read his other works first.
>>9925880
His autobiography Dichtung und Wahrheit might also be interesting.
https://web.archive.org/web/20060715182248/http://www.laurahird.com/showcase/danschneider.html
after Trench stared down his black cunt. I’m laughing out loud at the black chicks, until another states no white boy had a cock big enough to please a ‘sista’. Trench says who the fuck would wanna fuck a skanky nigger cunt like you, anyway? ‘Fuck you!’ says the sister. Adam agrees, while nursing his virginity. Osaka never speaks when challenged. Jack reads the racing form. I say I’ll fuck her or any of the others & they’ll like it. The girl laughs, dares me to prove it, & points to the stairwell. She says she’ll snap me in ½. I disagree. She says white boys have little dicks compared to brothers. I say ‘Maybe, but we like Avis, we try harder!’ I was proud all of the girls I fucked commented on 1) my cock’s being larger than average (6½” vs. 5¼” normal in length) - especially considering I was on the small side, 2) I was a good, tender lover - not a suck, fuck, & roll over sort, & 3) unlike other nervous guys, I never had ‘performance problems’. Yet, I had recurring pains in my groin, looming larger as years went on, but a non-issue as the black chick, whose name I forget but label Marvella (she had 1 of those fucked up made-up black names meant to instill ‘pride’), & I tryst in the stairwell as Trench, her pals, & others rush to the door to listen. Even though she’s bigger, I have a good chance to end all the bullshit about ‘white boys’ once & for all.
>>9932545
Against, & on top of an old iron radiator I seize her, & kiss her. She is startled, but she’s a sexybeast. I fondle her large firm tits & French kiss her, pushing my groin into hers. She is taken aback I have no fear. Within a minute her hubris fades as her taut, muscular body melts to my smaller body’s rhythms & commands. After pulling my pants, underpants & her panties down, & her skirt up, condoming myself, I fuck her hard - tonguing her inner palate. She rips into my back with her claws, wraps her muscular thighs around me & squeezes. Her squeals & grunts tickle huzzahs & shock from the listeners. The pain & pleasure of me pounding her against the iron radiator is something she’s never felt nor dreamt of. All resistance fades. The only difference between black & white chicks is black chicks’ pubic hairs are more abrasive, like rubbing your groin against a Brillo pad. Such thoughts mean little as Marvella is off in the moment as our loins shudder against each others’. She is not a black stallioness, nor I a little white dick, just another woman in the thrall of a man hammering her, dominating her will. I come. She has radiator prints embossed into her back. I drop her on the floor next to the radiator as she catches her breath. She smiles at me, her legs spread & pinkness slowly oozing my semen out. She wants more. I want another pile drive, to see how far this animal act takes us. She’s 1 of the best fucks ever - her body’s beckonings indicate she reciprocates - but I’ve proven my point! I whip off my condom, pull up my pants, & walk through the door with my load showing in the rubber’s tip as proof. I’m a hero to white boys. I’m a pervert to white chicks who mocked me, but now regard me a priapic anomaly worth inspection. Marvella’s pals rush past me, to see what happened. They help her to their table, where she catches her breath, & some black guys feel like cuckolds. A white boy did for her what they could never do. They won’t forget that - some are J-Liners. The buzz that day is our tryst. Marvella & I never do it again - in fact, we never speak. Only furtive, but decipherable, glances are exchanged. Marvella’s body was marvelous - strong, sexy, her gluteus muscular. The rich musky scent of her sweat, & her eyeglasses crooked across he face as she lay on the floor, begging for another ride, stick with me:
>>9932548
MARVELLA RIDES THE BIG IRON PIPE
O, yes she was a sassy steely stallioness,
that bitch - with iron shanks - who in the lunchroom ranked
on me. Said she, “You white boys jus’ can’t gimme mine!
You tiny! You queer!” Yet she liked my small white ass
as I made objections to her point, and then begged
to show her mine. Marvella said, “You little boy,
I'll snap yo’ skinny ass in two!” Her iron legs
then tried. But it was futile because she enjoyed
my eager hammer pressing steel into her spine,
on the old radiator, dark in the stairwell
which led to the lunchroom, which cheered all of her squeals
as I pulled down hard on her glistened buns of steel
in such awkward positions. She loved it brutal,
as I gave her my best, yet never was I thanked.
https://web.archive.org/web/20040618222950/http://www.the-manifest.org/19/ridge.html
I asked what that had to do with this room. Tonio said that some faggots could not get any men to like them enough to let them stick their dicks in their assholes so they would come to Tonio’s. Was I supposed to let a faggot stick his dick in my asshole? Of course not, Tonio assured me. Instead the faggots would stick their dicks through the holes & the kids would just lick & suck on them for a few minutes & the faggots would pretend it was a man’s asshole, & sometimes even non-faggots who couldn’t get women would come to get their dicks sucked through the Glory Hole & pretend they were sticking their dicks in a woman’s hole, which was called a cunt, I soon learned.
So, all I would have to do would be to suck dick for a few minutes? Sure, said Tonio, that was it. He told me I should watch the other kids before trying it. Basically the kids, about a dozen in the room, although Tonio took care of 3 or 4 times as many (they would rotate nights), would see the dick & then pretend it was a lollipop- sometimes licking the dick tip gently, & sometimes, as it got bigger, wrapping their whole mouth around it.
The walls would sometimes shake on the other side as the faggots seemed to love the dick-sucking. You could hear them curse & scream with pleasure- sometimes so loud that the music that usually emanated from the club could barely be heard at all. After about 20 minutes of watching the oldest kid, Tilda, a blond girl, got up & told me to give it a try. I sat in her seat & waited for the next dick to pop through. It was quite a wait. I guess Tonio’s was slow that night.
>he doesn't read contemporary literature
who is he I'll kill him
>>9925633
funny man
>I do not ordinarily make prophecies, but about this I am absolutely prophetic: the coming hundred years are going to be more and more irrational, and more and more mystical.
Osho
He's clearly correct on the irrational point. And with the popularity of people like Jordan Peterson, I wouldn't be surprised if he was right about the latter.
Your thoughts?
sperm
>Thinking it ever was rational
>>9925585
so much this
I am starting a 100% STEM oriented degree in a few weeks and was wondering, how do I stop myself from becoming a humanitieslet? What skills does a philosophy student develop that I am likely to be lacking, and how can I compensate? Is it realistic to develop a proper appreciation of philosophy, literature and history alongside my main studies?
Here's a good resource:
https://youtu.be/YBus4gHF1FE
>>9925525
>What skills does a philosophy student develop that I am likely to be lacking
depression
>how can I compensate?
marry
>>9925525
By not starting the STEM meme degree and changing course in order to straighten your life out bucko.
Is it good?
only if your a poseur
>>9925530
What if I'm not?
Yup.
What does /lit/ recommend for grammar guides? Also, anything on script writing would be helpful
>>9925494
>se
literally what?
>>9925498
>literally what?
What?
>>9926208
Strunk and White: the elements of style is a good start
What are some books about untalented comedy show hosts who have only ad hom jokes to offer?
So...
>>9932530
Thats an absolute brillant idea, anon. You should write it.
>>9932530
What's objectively the best book to learn about Napoleon Bonaparte?
The biography of Josephine
Expansive and well-researched. Great exposition on the battles, and uses Bonny's own correspondences as the fundamental primary sources.
the bible old testament
Is it possible to enter the LN market?
I mean, the prose and plot is subpar, if I find someone to make cute covers for each capter what is stopping me from milking weebs? and why haven't you done the same yet?
>inb4 muh standards
>>9925480
Are you Japanese?
>Yes
Just do it.
>No
You're fucked, weebs are only mad jelly at you while normies couldn't care less, meaning no one will buy your shit and you've ruined your reputation for noting.
Can you write in Japanese?
>Yes
Just do it. There are LN contests all the time for aspiring writers in Japan. You don't have to be Japanese to join.
>No
You're fucked. The Japanese can't read English and no one in the west will publish you.
Do you know someone who knows Japanese?
>Yes
Then have them translate your shit and try your luck by the aforementioned method.
>No
You're fucked.
>>9925480
I want to try writing one since it looks so easy to produce action/adventures in them, but I'm afraid to detetoriate my skills doing so...