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The bamboo grove

A Fools' life

>>9934988
Cx

>>9944266
Apparently Shakespeare wrote the original version of Hamlet, dubbed Ur-Hamlet by scholars, for a homework assignment when he was in the equivalent of middle school. Joyce's first complete short story, which he penned just shy of his sixteenth birthday, was the skeleton of what would eventually become the first second of "A Portrait." Even duller luminaries of the literary night sky like Margaret Atwood and Jonathan Franzen published their first novels before they were twenty. So no, all greats start off great, were always great. If you don't have it now, unfortunately, you are not likely ever to acquire it.

>>9944266

What a stupid question. Of course they do.

>>9944295
What about the fact that Tolstoy wrote large portions of War and Peace before he had finished high school? Do historical examples hold no weight for you whatsoever?

Illuminatus trilogy is okay I guess

Foucaults Pendulum

>>9934972

The Crying of Lot 49 m8

>>9943987
>really disillusioned with the feasibility to reach truth

fixed that for ya

>>9943987

sense control and the resulting calming of the restless mind leads to the transcendental experience of eternity, which is the difference between intellectuals/theologians and saints/sages.

>>9944006
>transcendental experience of eternity

yeah once i hit a certain age and read enough stuff i realize this is whats up, doing a lot of lsd may or may not have also helped

It's an awful book full of arbitrary style rules and grammatical errors. For example, the authors issue the absurd ruling to not use the passive voice and then fail to understand what the passive voice is and give false examples of it. For a comprehensive explanation of why it is terrible, with examples included, see the article "50 Years of Stupid Grammar Advice" by linguist Geoffrey K. Pullum. You should be able to find it if you Google it.

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It is on the "hard" aspects of writing, I.E. grammar, punctuation, syntax. You know, the technical stuff. I have only managed to burn about a third of the way through it though I have 3 copies and have owned it for a while. It's a text that should be studied and practiced, imo, else it's hard to retain. Struck and White make complex ideas easy because of how well its written and because of the great examples they provide.

It was slow reading and dry (difficult) so I put it down, but all three copies shout at me every time I see them on my book shelf.

There is some stuff on how to write tersly etc ("softer" aspects of writing) as well.

Backstory explained in intro is that Strunk was a great writing teacher and E.B. White was his student and he took his ideas and put them in a manual with his help. Or something.

Nothing is essential reading, but this book is highly recommended as an effective guide to better writing and stands out from many other works which claim to have this effect but don't, or can't in as few words.

>>9943718
I highly suggest that you read the article I mentioned here >>9943709 before continuing to study Strunk & White.

>albums
yeah wrong board buddy

>>9934961
i listen to all these bands and have this chart saved
welcome, friend

Book of Revelation

additional:
Nietzsche ---> Bataille ---> Girard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjjCVmDEKPc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgfhDnmBG0c

Tree of Smoke and Savage Detectives are both 10/10s

You do realize that 'fag shit' is pretty inseparable from Burroughs life and work right?

It does not in any way compare to the naked lunch. Naked lunch is surreal psychodelic ride across intoxicated mind, Junky is like a structured journal/chronicle with no or very little made up psychedelic shit.

>>9934960
Not really buddy in fact the fag Mexican part was transplanted by him into the manuscript from his other book, queer. Other than that out of place fag passage I could have read the whole book with no fag shit

It's something special. Never seen anything like it. His second book is pretty good too. Probably could have done without it being written in the screenplay format.

is it actually good?

>>9935030
It's awful, but totally worth it

is that Slow Fat Fuck University?

>>9934920
Kék

nobody gives a shit you dumb indian quietist pooface

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>>9934923
delet this

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>people have silly ideals
>tell them they're silly
>they get angry and insult your ideals

You got to wait until you're about 25 or so before you realize you're perfectly willing to abandon all your ideals.

>“what mortal that retains any traces of human origin would wish to be tickled day and night, and, neglecting his mind, to devote himself to bodily enjoyments?”
>ah yes, quite
>jack off to 2d porn later

it's always been this way, with a brief interlude of it not being that way right after /his/ was created

but the soul of /lit/ has always been at least half philosophy

/film student-level philosophy discussion and blog post poli-sci/

>>9943518
I literally spent 9 months redpilling /lit/. Every single thread I would derail immediately and start talking about identity politics. ie. race, gender or sexuality, either redpilling with infographics or falseflagging as a degenerate leftist cuck.
The Marxists who were here have given up and either left or moved to our side through redpilling.

there are only two: primacy and contingency

>>9934815
Ego
Spooks
Egoism
Fuck I'm all out

only biological urges aren't spooks, words/ideas like ego are merely intellectualisation of primal qualities

go straight to the work. some may be written out of appreciation or the work, or for the benefit of the layman, but anyone serious about absorbing the information presented should 1 have already done prior background familiarization and 2 expose themselves to the work without a third party opinion or interpretation

yeah I love to read dave eggers saying some wack bullshit about the arcade fire or whatever