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Hey,
Im not sure if this belongs to /int/ or here but in one year I will be leaving for college to get degree in translationship (english+german, Im from east europe), Im not worried about my english but I need to raise my A2 level of german to B2 at least and I decided to do it through reading books. What german books would you recommend to me that arent too hard, can be some children books/fairy tale books as well
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>>9956519
The idea of being able to convey a language in a school. You will never hit native level or get an actual feeling for those two languages. Please only translate into your native language.

Still want to learn a language? Ok turn back time and grow up in the respective countries. If you can't time-travel, at least make it a habit of speaking to natives several hours a day. Reading won't cut it.
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>>9956575
The idea isnt to be able to know 100% about a certain language, I enjoy learning/speaking other languages, wordplays etc... and want to do it for work.
Also how do you explain I learned english just from reading? Being able to speak language comes naturally when you are able to read/write it, if you arent a language brainlet (Which I assume you are).
Feel free to post an autistic two page essay on why I shouldnt pursue my dream but it wont change anything. I have decided what I want to do in life, what about you?
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>>9956519
hesse's fairytales (Märchen). they're not exactly fairytales, but kind of fantastical stories.

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Remember when publishers were shitting their pants about these things killing their market?

Now nobody cares about them. They're about 30x more expensive than they should've been, and none of the major businesses selling them are interested in pushing innovative development or lowering prices. Rather than completely overturning the publishing field, they've basically turned into a transient technological roadbump that was dropped almost as quickly as it was adopted.
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(((publishers)))
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I use my kindle all the time dude
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>>9956293
No one was shitting their pants about it, it's just that like any new medium, people say "it's shit" for a while until everyone has one.

>ywn never write lyrics as beautiful about sailing into destiny
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If you think Rush lyrics are good you should get yourself a copy of Paradise Lost
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>>9955869
You don't know me.
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i love rush

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He's way up there desu.
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>>9955717
he was a filthy jew, read culture of critique
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>>9955878
avant-ironic-neo-sincerity? or meta-ironic bait post? you decide, /lit/.

Just got this

What am I in for?
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read the book you faggot
why are these kind of threads not bannable? what kind of answer are you even looking for? fucking hang yourself
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>>9955587
took the b8
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>>9955587
nice

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Holy shit. This fucking masterpiece is the greatest work of art I have ever come across
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yeah its one of the few long ass shits that lives up to the hype
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>>9955270
have you finished it yet?
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>>9955293

nah, haha :P, but I read the madeline part of swans way.. the prose was soo good

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Post your favorite short story collections or recommend some to others. Pic related.
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>>9955239
A Schoolboy's Diary by Robert Walser
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welcome to the monkey house
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Some of the best I've read this year:
Finding a Girl in America
Collected Short Stories of Katherine Mansfield
The Moons of Jupiter
Nine Stories
The Celestial Railroad and other Stories
Where I'm Calling From
The Sorcerer’s Apprentice: Tales and Conjurations
Some all time favorites:
Any of the Bantam 50 Greats (50 Great Short Stories; 50 Great American Shorts, etc.) edited by Milton Crane
Great American Short Stories edited by Burton Raffel

One more I picked up on accident but ended up enjoying more than I expected: Unicorn Variations. The sci-fi was pretty good as far as that went, but he introduced how he wrote them all, which was often more interesting than the stories themselves.

Also, what's the best Munro Compliation? Alice Munro's Best? Vintage Munro seems pretty skimpy.

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what's better for a first read, poem then commentary or flipping back and forth between them?
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>>9955102
Read it straight through including index.
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>>9955106
fpbp
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>>9955106
This.

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Lets all write a one take about the moon. A one take is a poetic stream of consciousness spewing forth from the mind without censor or retrospect. essentially. Write about the moon.
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Fuck you, I'm not doing your creative writing homework for you.
Was about to write some moving ass text before I realized the dubious end game of your hidden hand.
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anywhere can be paradise as long as you have the will to live. after all, you are alive, so you will always have the chance to be happy. as long as the sun, the moon, and the earth exist, everything will be all right.
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Whenever I see the moon, I remind myself of my dead mother. She was shot by some nigger and the useless nigger policeman could not identify the murderer. I hate niggers.

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what would happen if they were in the same room
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>>9954510

>zizek: we need revolution through action, not just superficially virtuous protest
>peterson: WELL YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS BUCKO
>zizek: is that starbucks in your hand? you are complicit in capitalist slavery of the most malevolent stripe
>zizek starts furiously rubbing his nose
>peterson starts mumbling about gulags and postmodernists
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They can't be in the same room because they're the same person
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>>9954510
>JP tries to psychoanalize Zizek through a jungian lens
>Zizek tries to psychoanalize JP through a lacanian lens
>Chaos ensures

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Rome used to be Orthodox. Their apostasy is due maimly to two factors: the (forged) Donation of Constantine, and the Pornocracy


The Filioque is the Latin doctrine that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Son as principle (principle in Latin means the source or basis of something’s existence). That is the official Roman explanation of what “Filioque” means in the Creed. This is distinct from the Orthodox doctrine that the Spirit proceeds from the Son in the sense that the Son gives the Spirit to us, somewhat analogically to how the Spirit gave us the Son through the Son’s earthly conception. In Orthodoxy, the Father alone is the Spirit’s principle, whereas in Filioqueism, the Father-Son is the principle of the Spirit, whereas the Father alone is the principle of the Father and the Son. The Latin perspective lead to an obviation of the significance of the New Testament Pentecost. For example, Christ promised the Spirit of Truth would given to the Church to guide and administrate her; Catholics blurred the Spirit’s coming with the principle of the Spirit’s existence, which greatly marginalized the former. This meant Catholics no longer saw the Spirit of Truth as strongly as an administrator and preserver of truth given to the Church, which is why they needed the Pope, who took over the role of the Spirit of Truth. Also, Latin mysticism was massively impaired by this: you see, in the Old Testament, only prophets had access to the Holy Spirit, so only they had mystical experiences. With the New Testament Pentecost, such direct and mystical experience of God is offered to everyone. Prior to the schism, the writings of Saint Isaac the Syrian and Saint John of the Ladder (who both wrote about how to have mystical experiences with God) were both highly esteemed and read in the West. After the schism, their relevance was gradually reduced; today, they are still considered very important in the Orthodox Church, but for the Romans they are little more than academic curiosities.

Cont
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>>9954483
Rome initially rejected the Filioque. Pope Leo III was the first Pope was faced with its addition (prior to him, some churches in the West used it, but it had not reached Rome). Carolingian envoys were sent to him to ask he add it to the Creed (as transcript of this exchanged can be found in “Photius and the Carolingians: The Trinitarian Controversy”). Pope Leo at first told them no, he would not officially add it in writing, but if they wished they might say it in the service, but no writing would be changed. They continued to pressure and pester him, and he finally told them not only would he not add it, but that now he was forbidding them from singing it, and said he had no authority to unilaterally alter the Nicene Creed, stating, “I will not say I prefer myself to the Fathers. And far be it from me to count myself their equal." To emphasize the finality of his decision, he had the Creed without the Filioque engraved on two silver tablets. A few decades later, his decision would be upheld in the Council of 879, which anathematized the Filioque and Pope Nicholas I for espousing Papal supremacy; this council was affirmed by Pope John VIII, which ended the Photian Schism. However, in 1014, after pressure from Henry II of Germany, Pope Benedict VIII added the Filioque. Benedict owed Henry big time because the later restored him to his see after the antipope took it. And that is how it got in the Latin Creed today.
There is a popular quote used by Catholics ascribed to Kallistos Ware: "The filioque controversy which has separated us for so many centuries is more than a mere technicality, but it is not insoluble. Qualifying the firm position taken when I wrote [my book] The Orthodox Church twenty years ago, I now believe, after further study, that the problem is more in the area of semantics and different emphases than in any basic doctrinal differences." This quote is fabricated, and the work by Ware it is ascribed to, does not exist.
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>dogmatical metaphysics

read Kant
pleb
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>>9954488
>Kant rejects mysticism and revelation so you're a pleb if you don't too

Nope

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Is postmodernism ultimately a necessary part of Western thought and literature, as some sort of natural progression? Or is it just one of many possibilities we could have gotten?
There seems to be a pattern in each new line of thought and literature. Romanticism was rejected by realism, which was rejected by modernism, which is now being rejected by postmodernism. Could there be another way to reject modernism, one that doesn't make everything relative?
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>>9954099
Pic related is exactly why I think postmodernism is a load of bull.
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the "post-modernism is killing western civilisation" meme needs to stop. about 99% of americans probably never heard of Derrida or Foucault save being even close to understanding their work. most people who complain about post-modernism have never opened a single actual post-modernist work
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>>9954191
OP here
When did I ever say postmodernism was in any way bad? My question is if it was a natural and/or necessary step in literature.
Regardless, about 99% of Americans probably never heard of postmodernism. People who spew the meme you're arguing against are a minority, most of them are probably /pol/ crossboarders.

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*gives a quote for the back of the book you're reading*

pshh... nothin personnel, kid
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Because you only read pleb books. Ive never seen a quote from him as far as I know.
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i don't even recognize the bastard.

sounds like a personnel problem.
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>>9954032
he's all over gene wolfe books like a rash, so you're wrong, because wolfe is the certified Patrician's Choice

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Should i read Lord of the rings or watch it?
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>>9953652
Neither
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>>9953652
neither
I can't think of a worse series
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Both

Is the French goblin the best writer today?
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>>9953622
no.
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>>9953622
nope.
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He's the best french writer, that's for sure

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