Do you rate prose more highly than plot? Also what book have you read that had the best plot or the best prose you've read?
What did he mean by this?
Here's my solution.
Another one.
Does the count-down on the inside jacket of this edition of Gravity's Rainbow play into the launch sequence of a rocket idea, AND into the idea of a "Printer's Key" identifying this as the second edition of GR?
Brilliance, or coincidence?
>>10023817
Someone link to cliff sargent's opinion on this please.
>>10024048
cliff sargent?
Bumping this, cause people need to know.
Revistas literarias en español, ¿Conocen alguna buena o interesante?.
Check out Sergio Pitol hehe
also
http://cedille.webs.ull.es/
some articles en espaniol
Does it hold literary value or is it just pretentious edgy garbage?
Was it autism?
Noob here, want to read Crying of Lot 49. Is there anything I should know/read before I start?
Absolutely not. Maybe a little bit of history of relations between Russia, UK and USA in 19th century.
>>10023727
no it's pretty approachable as far as pynchon is concerned. The Illuminatus! Trilogy could be a good primer though
>>10023727
What's the problem, Anon? It's just a
Rag-a-muffin' life
To pull-you-through-that strife
Ain't nothin' to joke,
But if you'll only just smoak
Then maybe it'll be all-right?
[Chorus]
But that (oh)
Full-some pre-tentio-si-ty
That fills your -- thoughts, with me-diocri-ty
It's just (hey!)
Holdin' you back
If it would give you some slack
You might 'preciate ver-bosity
[Neckbeards and shitposters amble in, tripping over each others' feet; an unrealistically proportioned nude male of color begins gyrating his hips in an animated fashion, drawing one's eye--and yes, the Anons' as well!--toward the pendulous 'pendage which describes major arcs at pelvic-level. A passing /pol/lak, copy of The Culture Of Critique in hand, pauses to gaze 'pon the sight, salivating involuntarily]
Is Pynchon the dancing bear?
I think he probably is
>start with the greeks
I don't think I've ever been so happy in my life. I've discovered in the ancient Greek texts what I've been missing after all this time, and I'm so happy for you, /lit/, for making me fall for this meme. Seriously, why do people see reading them as a chore? I read Homer's epics, Mythology, and almost all the great tragedies. Will be going towards philosophy later on.
The Ancients truly were great. I hope the romans are this good as well.
>>10023705
>Seriously, why do people see reading them as a chore?
They aren't people
Plato is a bore
>>10023735
>plato
>not aristotle
plato is fun.
Is there any reason to read the posthumous papers? I'm a mega fan of modernism but still I don't wanna waste my time yknow
>>10023689
How about you read them and find out?
>>10023697
anon..
I'm planing on writing genre fiction but in poethry.
redpill me on this.
You have quite the lisp sirrah.
>>10023646
An exit bag is a good to help collect your thoughts
>>10023646
poetry got BTFO by prose in the 1800s and never recovered, and it now sells so poorly that there's no need to distinguish modern poetry between "genre" and "literary" since nobody is doing it for profit
what exactly is - nihilism? Everyone seems to have their own interpretation of this concept. What is it and what does it mean?
>>10023591
>literature
fuck off to >>>/his/
>>10023593
Wow, you're right. I've never heard nihilism mentioned or discussed here.
>>10023591
Anti-essentialism/platonism basically. Generally it's categorical in nature; i.e., there's no such thing as x, there are just things that subjectively look like x, and this subjectivity does nothing to create truth.
Who are your favourite authors of short stories?
For me it's Chekhov, Tolstoy, Gogol, Mishima and Akutagawa. Love the historic Russian and Jap settings.
>>10023577
Hemingway, Cheever, Carver, O'Connor, Updike. Among the living, Tobias Wolff.
Second yours as well.
Roger Zelazny's short fiction is amazing.
http://www.kulichki.com/moshkow/ZELQZNY/forbreat.txt
>>10024607
>Hemingway, Cheever, Carver, O'Connor, Updike. Among the living, Tobias Wolff.
I like most of these plus Breece DJ Pancake, Irwin Shaw, Harold Brodkey and Barry Hannah
How do I start with hindu literature?
The Greeks
>>10023576
First, you learn Sanskrit.
Then, you learn Vedic Sanskrit.
Then, you read the Vedas.
Then the Brahmanas on those Vedas.
Then you read the Upanishads and the Bhagavad Gita.
>>10023658
Should I read all four vedas first and the then related brahmanas/upanishads or read one veda and follow with the brahmanas/upanishads of that particular vedic school?
Also, how important is the ramayana? I've been hearing a lot of balinese gamelan lately and a lot of dances and chants are based on events portrayed in the ramayana.Learning sanskrit sounds really difficult desu, but I guess that the translations are utter shit.
Thoughts? For how popular his other works are here I never see discussion of this
Invaluable for tracing Kafka's development as an author, but not a very good work on its own imo. It's too inchoate, Kafka hadn't really developed his voice at that point.
>>10023572
I can't speak for /lit/ at large but it's unfinished so I guess a lot of people don't care for it or consider it canon (?). I dunno. But I do know this: Martin Kippenberger had an installation called "The Happy End to Kafka's Amerika" is very interesting:
http://socks-studio.com/2011/04/20/martin-kippenberger%E2%80%99s-the-happy-end-of-franz-kafka%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98amerika%E2%80%99-1994/
Kafka is a whiny neurotic Jew, his writing is the ramblings of a deeply disturbed man and I hope to live to see his name scrubbed out of the western canon.
Max Brod should have let him burn his work like he wanted.