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anons with concentration issues, what's a good book that's captivating and not too difficult? my mind wanders whenever I try to read anything, I can concentrate for like 10 pages a day and then everything becomes shrouded, I keep reading the same lines for several minutes trying to figure out what it means. I used to read some very entry-level fantasybooks when I was a child but I can't read anymore. help?
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How about instead of asking such stupid fucking questions you get yourself some discipline?
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>>9034508
Read better books.
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>>9034535
How does one gets some discipline?

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How often do you read authors that have different political views than you?
I often do, as long as they don't shove their ideology down my throat and/or publicly pander. Pic related is everything I hate about what an author can use a public persona for.
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who gives a shit what they say on twitter
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>>9034353
I guess not just authors but celebrities whose main demographic are kids. It's propaganda-lite.
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I don't really look into political leanings of authors 2bdesu

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As a society we seem to have become more accepting on a certain level of our insignificance in the universe and more aware of how much we don't know. Compared to Lovecrafts time we seem to have lost our certainty in importance in the universe and of our knowledge of the world around us and as such cosmic horror seems to have lost its teeth. Today society seems to have moved on and perhaps the most effective horror appears to be that which focuses on our isolation within society and being alone within a crowd while struggling to deal with the kafkaesque bureaucracy of modern governments and the disconnect between the state and its people. What do you think?
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>>9034339
I don't think we've moved on so much as just stopped thinking about it.
I literally get a vertigo like anxiety when I'm out in the country and recognize the milkyway
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>>9034361
yeah vertigo is a good word for that feeling I get looking up at the stars, or sky for too long.
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>>9034339
You just need to read other "cosmic horror" authors than Lovecraft.

Has anybody of you (native speakers of Spanish included) read or at least tried to read a whole book in Spanish? If so, what does it feel like? Does it seem any more flowery and expressive than, say, when you read in English? I'm actually only planning on learning this language, so I wouldn't know myself. And what do you think of my endeavour in general? Is Spanish really worth learning to be able to read books in?
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Yes it is worth it.

Spanish tends to be more flowery than Ebglish, but it is not a detriment nor does it make it more expressive. It is just different from English.

I have read several books in Spanish. I am a native speaker.
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I'm a Spanish native speaker who is also 100% fluent in english and I dislike reading in Spanish very much. I don't know exactly why, suppose I'm just not used to it. Been reading books in English since I was reading books and have read moderately few in spanish (despite living in mexico)

It's all a matter of preference. I simply associate reading with english.
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>>9034262
It's a little more musical, I think. English is more technical but Spanish tends to have a lot of phonemes repeat in text, so it kind of has a singsong cadence. At least to me, as an English speaker who learned Spanish as a very small child.

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Hello /lit/, apologies if this subject doesn't quite fit into the board smoothly, I wasn't sure where to ask. Are there any books showing the significance of Computer Science, from a more philosophical light? Or any books on why Computer Science is interesting from a purely intellectual perspective, without the pragmatic benefits it may or may not bring to the economy?

Thanks in advance, pic unrelated
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>>9033930
>>9033930

I genuinely apologize if this inquiry from a 19-year old college student was inappropriate for /lit/

I simply wasn't certain exactly where to find this kind of book I was looking for, doing so more for personal curiosity than anything else. If this thread is truly inappropriate, I will happily delete it
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>>9033938
take your cs shit elsewhere
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>>9033922
I'm interested in this too. I hope someone produces recommendations.

This was a really good novel
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>>9033850
wow what a new and exciting statement
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This was a really good post.
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>>9033911
yeah I didnt really think it out. I just wanted to share a thought

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Last thread died.

You guys know how this goes. Post any poem you want to have critiqued. It is highly encouraged to attempt to critique as many other posts as you can before or after posting any work of your own. Though nothing can stop you from not critiquing any, more than likely if you post a poem without critiquing another yours will go ignored.
And remember, take everything said with a grain of salt.

I've got something bigger I'm working on, but I'm going to open this thread with a throwaway a wrote up about an hour ago just to get the ball rolling.

>Locked In

Here
Before this screen
Hard-wired Neat Clean.
Everything is crystal clear.
Housed by a tower
Plugged in for power
Transmitting inputs through a machine.
Display
Quartz-cut imagery
Raw and processed reality
Reckless finesse flung by the thumb
Mistakes, retakes
Three lives, you've died
Respawn, redrawn, reliving missed time
Missed phone call
A voice never heard
Mumbo-jumbo jargon
Whispered in the ears of the dead.
Informing whomever it may concern
News regarding the fall of their creator
Whose crash and nosedive has resulted in
A plummet and the meeting of their maker.
Echoing, quieting, stilling,
Settling softly into dead circuitry,
The last remaining updates lay filling
The unwanted and unchecked space of the free.
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14.
Gulping down onion-ring sized
coffee stains on the page. Please,
allow me to take you in. All of you.
Hungry but unappetizing and displeased
with the results, isn’t it always?
Not this time. Dismiss it as
not the right fit but gas-powered
and earnest, it’ll show itself the right door.
Being your happy. When will I put
down the last of these lumps,
breastsized and nibbling gnawing
needing. Doughy is the boy who
identifies his delirium. Last supper
for two: want in? What poem
was written tight-fisted and tissueless
after a 5’-o-clock-gravy-train-dinner?


15.
Whitman, an American as good as any
of us, left poems in his wake
by the fistful. He sold them out
on country roads (39¢) to show
he could disregard and fly from
any love currently his. His tip hat
is overturned by bills and bullion and
tender so green you could bite its
worth, not, into a single tumbling crumb.


19b. Burnish/Tarnish

I leave loves to grow
plant them by gutters
rain waters their hearts
but gets on my shoes
the hill's not far away
suede insole is ruined
but binoculars
they still work they still
allow discretion for
me to see the seeds
from the tufty dew at
these heights the loves are
stalks now arraying
their buds to purview
my wet shoes the ones
that stepped with them in
rain water at birth
I see it in looks in
the lens in supine views
from my hill they want
me to come back (of
course!) how'd they not feel
it sooner I've been telling
them all along the
way in whispers that
don't even reach my own
ears my eyes see they're
already flowers that
neck toward my laying
it's grown clear from these
loves I've done nothing
but regard stomach down
their increase my shoes
damp still a new pair
needs be remedied
for the tall flowers
they now curl around
suede hooks insole deep
returned from gutter
abandon greeting me
my binoculars my
hill top and the inch
of grime and moss grown
on hems of suede shoes
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>>9033035
you need to work on your line breaks dawg

It's cool, a pretty cool poem for sure. But break it up. Give it some stanzas. Often you can just look at a poem and see it needs readjusting, this is one of them.

Start off with breaking it into stanzas, I'd suggest one after machine, time, and maker
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>>9033070
I actually meant to put (those exact) breaks in after I pasted it, rookie mistake. No coincidence that you suggested the exact right spaces. It should be:

Here
Before this screen
Hard-wired Neat Clean.
Everything is crystal clear.
Housed by a tower
Plugged in for power
Transmitting inputs through a machine.

Display
Quartz-cut imagery
Raw and processed reality
Reckless finesse flung by the thumb
Mistakes, retakes
Three lives, you've died
Respawn, redrawn, reliving missed time

Missed phone call
A voice never heard
Mumbo-jumbo jargon
Whispered in the ears of the dead.
Informing whomever it may concern
News regarding the fall of their creator
Whose crash and nosedive has resulted in
A plummet and the meeting of their maker.

Echoing, quieting, stilling,
Settling softly into dead circuitry,
The last remaining updates lay filling
The unwanted and unchecked space of the free.

>>9033063
Idk. I kind of didn't mind the Whitman poem. But the other ones just felt too disjointed. Too many line breaks. Not badly written, but badly presented in my opinion.

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In this thread I will post quotations narrating the life of Joseph Goebbels from his birth until he and the Nazi party took power in 1933:

I intend to cover:

>his childhood
>his experience in school
>his experience with women
>his literary ambitions
>the struggles he faced in Berlin prior to gaining power


If this thread interests you please bump to keep it alive.
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On his birth

>"He began his life story thus:" Born on October 29, 1897, in Rheydt, at that time an up-and-coming little industrial town on the lower Rhine near Dusseldorf and not far from Cologne."

__________

On Joseph's portrait of his father

>"Conceding grudgingly that his father would in all likelihood go to Heaven, Joseph would write: 'I just can't understand why Mother married the old miser.' He painted a picture of his father lying in bed three-quarters of the day, then reading papers, drinking beer, smoking and cursing his wife, who had already been about her housework since six A.M."

__________

On Joseph's attitude towards his mother

>"His sympathies were all with her. 'I owe her all that I am,' he once wrote; and he remained beholden to her all his life. He had his mother's astute features-the face perceptibly flattened at each side, the nose slightly hooked, the upper front teeth protruding"


__________
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On Joseph's sickly youth

>" He remembered his sickly earliest years only dimly. He recalled [...] a bout of pneumonia which he only barely survived. He was always a little mite of a fellow. Even in full manhood he would weigh less than one hundred pounds."

__________

On Katherina Goebbels praying for her young son

>"in his childhood, there seemed to be nothing she could do for him but pray. Leading him by the hand, she took him to church constantly and, kneeling beside him, she implored the Heavenly Father to give him strength to endure the burden of his physical weakness and his undeveloped body."

__________

On young Joseph as a shut-in

>"It was obvious to him that his condition was a worry to his parents, and from his early childhood a seam of self-doubt was deposited in his nature. He shut himself away in his little attic room with its sloping ceiling and its single window looking [...] down into a cramped and gloomy courtyard at the back of the house."

__________
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>>9031886
I love this thread and the guy posting this stuff. I know you're the dude that made this kinda thread about the Unabomber and you're awesome.

I wish I had that thread saved somewhere.

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is she responsible for killing alt-lit?
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>>9031818
Alt-Lit is more than capable of killing itself but I applaud her contribution
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>>9031825
Even worse than that, she's a fucking leaf.
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who is this brown clown?

Is this actually good or just Reddit and 9gag tire garbage?
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I had to force myself to get through all three. I suppose I should read some reviews to find out what it is people liked about this series.
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>9gag

I remember back in the old days when that was the big bad reddit
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>>9030898
It's good, but it's also a children's book. No reason to read it as an adult unless you literally didn't learn to read.

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Fantasy
Selected:
>https://i.imgur.com/qkz73sR.jpg
General:
>https://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg
Flowchart:
>https://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg

Science Fiction
Selected:
>https://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg
>https://i.imgur.com/IBs9KE8.jpg
General:
>https://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg
>https://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg

NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
>https://i.imgur.com/IJxTQBL.jpg

Previous Thread: >>9019027
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1st for bakka
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So I'm about halfway through Tigana and so far it's pretty great. The prose takes a little while to get used to, and some of the subplots seem a little superfluous, but judging by the first half, I expect that they're going to be relevant later.
/blog
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Bakker is just GRRM for people who are too pretentious to read actual GRRM while also having a cuckold fetish.

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Can anyone give me an attempt at summarizing Being in Time?

This is to see how people would articulate it more than anything.
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*Being AND Time

Sorry, long day.
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>>9030271
There's a more fundamental human understanding of being before analysis of concepts such as gravity or predicates.
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>>9030271
Being in the world, always already, presence and absence, truth as revealing, thinking as a path, and fuck everyone who tried doing philosophy this is my national socialist swaggggg and I'm not gonna make this any easier cuz that would be like suicide and anyway it's much easier to say it like this.

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Is Louis CK as intellectual as the general public is going to get? His stand up is philosophical in a plebby kind of way, and his show has elements of avant-garde.
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>intellectual
>philosophical
>avant-garde

Don't use words if you don't know what they mean.
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>>9028762
Horace and Pete was legitimately patrician tier theater. Not liking Louis in general is a perfect pseud filter
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>>9028762
This guy is the biggest pseudo intellectual out there in the media right now. If someone likes him, be wary. Hes got trademark half assed unbaked ideas and themes that dab in counter cultural thought that pseuds love. Shit like "saving money is arrogant". He sucks.

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What's the difference between INTJ and INTP?
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Books
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>>9028369
One arbitrary unquantifiable metric in a reductive and applicationless categorization "system"
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>>9028371
An INTP will read books for the sake of accruing knowledge.

An INTJ will read books for a purpose. To learn something that is relevant for the INTJ and their goals.

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Post your novels, stories, extracts to be judged and in turn, help out your fellow prose anons with some crit.

Here's my story and I'll be around for some time dropping crit :

http://pastebin.com/NckwKjBt
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The carpet was littered with scratch papers and charts, bare patches were stained deep with dribbles of ink. In the center of it all sat Eve by her wall, startled and suddenly sheepishly aware of the chaos around her.

“I trust you have a non-crazy explanation for all of this?”

“The universe is expanding,” she mumbled more at the floor than at him, shifting in her spot interpose herself between him and the section of the wall. It was at that moment that he noticed the faint smell of paint thiner.

“What did you do this time,” he groaned, pulling her away from the wall. Years ago, when he and his family had first moved into the apartment, and Eve was much younger, Mr. Bevitore recalled spending a ludicrous sum to have his daughter's walls decorated with radium paints. The tiny yellow stars no longer glowed as they once had, but all the same he was disappointed to see them painted over with correction fluid. The corner by the far wall had was covered with fractions and derivatives, and a menagerie of symbols he could not make heads or tails of.

“I heard when I was at the library last weekend that scientists have discovered the further away galaxies are the faster they're moving away from us. I started trying to measure it and found that they seem to be moving away from each other as well. The only thing that made sense was that space was expanding, like a piece of rubber being stretched out.”

“Eve,” he chided, “you're fifteen. You're ten years too old to be drawing on the walls.”

“I ran out of scratch paper.”

“Do you have any idea how much this is going to cost to fix?”

“That's why I used correction fluid. After it dries I can just peel it off.”

>>9028285
Crit coming in a minute. Im on my phone so it's kind of annoying.
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>>9028313

So I like this as far as it goes. I have one small suggestion which would be change this line

>“I trust you have a non-crazy explanation for all of this?

I don't know why but it just rubs me the wrong way. Too BBC dry humour if that makes sense ?

I do like Bevitores character though or at least what I assume of it. Since you do a really stellar job of showing the instantt dynamic between them it's a bit of clunker

Also , how solidly do you have the characters planned out ? Because the whimsically irresponsible yet brilliantly intelligent child has been quite played out. So I hope you have something interesting planned for her.

Also again not sure of much story-wise so this could be irrelevant but I think that her response is more fit to a 12 year old ? I feel a 15 year old would be more prone to a passive agressive response than a meek one.

I hope you post more though since I enjoyed it
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>>9028343
Ill keep that line in mind when I get back to my computer.

Eves character has a lot of planning since she's the main character while im ad-libbing Mr. Bevitore as a sarcastic but understanding father and a rough and unforgiving "legitimate business man"

I haven't seen eve's character much to be honest, so im not quite sure where that's coming from. ive seen genius kids, irresponsible kids and irresponsible geniuses but the only combination of all three I can think of is that one kid from heroes. Admittedly she's older than most child geniuses but she is a bit childish because of her upbringing and her ability.


I read about half of your thing. I don't think I can finish it all in one go on my phone but I was deeply impressed. Even with a rather uncomfy setting it manages vivid imagery and an engaging setting and mystery. A handful of corrections I can think of are these
>you mention his hands are webbed. Is he human, because that's not quite clear
>he also has a shark skull on his wall, but the only real bone in the shark is its jaw. Cartilage rots
>how is his first thought that shes the oceans daughter and not a mermaid or something
>in paragraph 42 you say he "away cuts" instead of "cuts away"

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