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Yelling goats edition.

We've got a prose one up, but the poetry thread died.

My piece, still working on a title:

In a grey mountain land, searching for God,
I happened on a cave, toothy and cold.
Shouting, anguished, within. I turned to my guide,
facing somber dissent. Heedless, I entered.
Where the small den halted, bleak light fell through the rock,
on a thin brackish pool, in which a figure lay.
That tormented wraith writhed, bones in black water,
endless life lamenting— one it could not take.
An ending I offered, a fool's pity.
It shrank from me in fear— by this I left.

Returning to the guide, I bid us continue the search.
Met with my ignorance, their gaze sought the ground in dismay.
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It is equal to living in a tragic land
To live in a tragic time.
Regard now the sloping, mountainous rocks
And the river that batters its way over stones,
Regard the hovels of those that live in this land.

That was what I painted behind the loaf,
The rocks not even touched by snow,
The pines along the river and the dry men blown
Brown as the bread, thinking of birds
Flying from burning countries and brown sand shores,

Birds that came like dirty water in waves
Flowing above the rocks, flowing over the sky,
As if the sky was a current that bore them along,
Spreading them as waves spread flat on the shore,
One after another washing the mountains bare.

It was the battering of drums I heard
It was hunger, it was the hungry that cried
And the waves, the waves were soldiers moving,
Marching and marching in a tragic time
Below me, on the asphalt, under the trees.

It was soldiers went marching over the rocks
And still the birds came, came in watery flocks,
Because it was spring and the birds had to come.
No doubt that soldiers had to be marching
And that drums had to be rolling, rolling, rolling.
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>>9040841

I like this. The last four lines especially remind me of the feeling of not remembering your dreams, but knowing that they happened.

Is this any good? I got it from my library today, mainly because they didn't have To the Lighhouse or Orlando.

I've read and enjoy Mrs Dalloway.
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>>9040693
Idk, haven't read that one.
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>>9040693
read it and post about it.
/lit/ only rehashes the same four Woolf memes; I've been meaning to read Between the Acts and making a review-thread about it.
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I've read The Years and no, while Woolf is my favourite novelist this one is not really that good. Far too plodding and realist for my tastes.

>>9041983
Between the Acts is fantastic, however.

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> A woman with a masculine mind is not a being of superior efficiency; she is simply a phenomenom of imperfect differentiation - interestingly barren and without importance.

Taken from Nostromo. Was he on to something?
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>>9040503
I think everyone throughout history has agreed that masculine women & feminine men are kind of annoying but still are a part of humanity.
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>>9040639
>still are a part of humanity.

meaningless bullshit
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why would a masculine mind suddenly become "iterestingly barren and without importance" just because it is located in a female body?
does that mean that the way dour flesh is formed on your bones alters the worth of your mind? does that mean manlets can not be taken serious?

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So, when did you realise that you wanted to become a writer?

For me it was Hank Moody. When I saw Californication I fucking fell in love with the literary lifestyle. It's like I was born for it. Ever since I finished watching the show, I write and drink and fuck and smoke everyday like crazy, because I know that sooner or later I will become one of the greats. Like Hank, but in real life.

Share your ambitions, madafakaaaas!
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>>9040365
get out

no srsly get the fuck out
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>>9040376
Wew, someone's in a cranky mood! You should play it cook, like the Hank.

But seriously, I don't wanna get in no pointless internet fights. Do you have any literary ambitions? Any favourite authors? By the way you write I can tell that you would like Bukowski or Welsh, amirite?

Peace!
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>>9040431
Haha, sorry I meant cool, not cook. OBVIOUSLY!

Peace!

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QUICK, you have ten seconds to prove that you're not a bildungsphilister!
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I have no idea what that is
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Bull shit lover?
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Bildung - Education, formation (think Bildungsroman - education/formation novel)
Philister - Obviously derived from philistine. An uncultured fellow.

I'm having difficulties figuring out exactly what this means, but it could mean:
One who is young and in education, and has a hostility towards arts and such. This would make it essentially synonymous with 'STEMsperg'.

It could also take an almost opposite and ironic meaning:
One who is young and in education, and thinks they are cultured and such but in actuality are far from it. This would make it essentially synonymous with 'pseud', 'nu-male', etc.

Please clarify, OP. My German isn't great.

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You jelly?
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>>9040180
No I'm peanut butter.
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I'm mayonnaise and roast beef.
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>>9040190
I don't get it. Also got a signed copy of the Sot weed factor coming.

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Where did he go wrong?
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I don't know where to start. Let's just agree on "everywhere"
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he didn't go far enough.
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>>9040178
>>>/his/ is that way, Fesser

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What literary motto do you use as your guide while writing or debating?

>Never answer a question in 15 seconds when you can stretch your response out to 7 minutes
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>>9040036
If you're jacking to it a year later, you've won.
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>>9040050
>tfw you're now older than the average porn star
*ALS ICH EIN*
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I just use a standard meme:word ratio

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>Pa found my modest collection of homo /lit/
>he doesn't believe that my interest in the matter is purely academic
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Suck his cock.
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i love girls but if someone accused me of being gay, i wouldn't deny it
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lol owned

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Are audiobooks cheating?
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>>9039867
No, because it's not a contest.
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No. I'm borderline dyslectic and read along with sped-up audiobooks. It's really helpful when trying to read a required text.
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>>9039867

A little. Reading should be about using your inner ear, and the narrator can ruin that and insist upon his own interpretation.

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>reality is for those who cannot sustain the dream.

Who is he paraphrasing here? I've heard this somewhere before.
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>>9039847
don quixote
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>>9039877
Literally? What's the original quote?
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>>9039847
More like doesn't fall for idealism. Which is cancer.

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How do I write dialogue that isn't pretentious and wooden?
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>>9039720
>write it however you want
>take what you've written and push it all into subtext
>polish by making language conversational
>use the engagement curve to draw in readers
>make sure the central point gets made (or restated) in the climax
Basically, two characters should be arguing about thing X, which represents philosophy Y, rather than arguing about philosophy Y outright. Their argument should also serve as a story-within-the-story that has its own arc.
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>>9039720
Talk to people

write it down

adapt it to your story
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>>9039720
Don't write them

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Why do I feel lately that studying rhetoric is amoral and manipulative?
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>>9039660
How should I know why you feel things?
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>>9039681
Why do you think someone would feel that way?
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>>9039660
because it is

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I want to start reading the Lovecraft Mythos
Which books does /lit/ recommend to get into it?
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Literally any of them. Stop talking/thinking about "getting into" it and just start reading it, you fuck. If it's something that actually interests you, why do you need a stranger's advice to help you get started?
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>>9039627
Start with the Greeks.
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>>9039677
it's about which is a good intro so i don't get thrown into the universe without knowing anything

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Have you read it?
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Not yet.
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You haven't? Then don't EVER TALK ABOUT AGAIN ABOUT ANYTHING REMOTELY LEFTIST YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OH MY GOD (truth) READ THE GULAG ARCHIPELAGO
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What does Peterson say about it?

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