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What are some literary villains that are very compelling without necessarily being complex?
Pic related. [Spoiler]The sheer depths of her lunacy and rage, and the tension as to whether or not she was actually going to commit the horrible murders made Medea extremely enjoyable. Her character didn't really develop, and the only facets of her personality are her immutable jealousy and anger, but she still really drove the story forward.[/Spoiler]
Made me wonder if villains can be driven solely by a constant emotion or mental state throughout the novel more easily than heroes can. I mean, villains are often motivated by extreme feelings of anger/jealousy/revenge, and allowing one's feelings to take control is seen as a villainous trait in modern society. Perhaps heroes that are driven by one or two primal emotions are more difficult to write well, not necessarily because they are one-dimensional, but because there would be a cognitive dissonance with cultural ideas of keeping one's emotions in check.
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>>9046374
What, you aren't well read enough to recognize the greatest villainous titan of the 2000s?
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Does anyone here have any interesting "Pen Names" a friend could use for writing?
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>>9046339
Mohammad Mohammed Mohammad.
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J.D. Hartford
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>>9046339
Big Dick Willy
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ITT: Books atheists literally can never appreciate with the same intensity and connection as believers
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>>9046338
my diary, desu
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>>9046338
You couldn't know that to be true without being an atheist yourself
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>>9046341
I once was
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Wasn't it a little odd at the end of the Odyssey how Odysseus killed all the suitors? I mean they didn't rape Penelope for like 10 years, seems like they were just a bunch of goofball frat boys.
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>>9046328
wow fuckin spoilers bro
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It was about sending a message. Odysseus had been cucked for 10 years, just not in the traditional way.
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>>9046332
>spoilers
Also this board is for 18+ and if you haven't read it by that age you deserve every thing that's bad for you.
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Do you agree with the concept "Show, don't tell"?
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yeah
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i don't think chachov said that since he was russian and this is english
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>>9046295
Telling is important, too. Don't let anyone say that telling is always terrible, because it isn't. But the things you tell are things that are necessary to know, but not necessary to understand, if that makes sense.
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This is a fairly obscure novella, but has anyone here read it and have any comment on it?
I just read it and it (actually!) really made me think.
I'd love to here someone's opinion on the main character. Is she in the wrong?
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>>9046241
I haven't read it but I'm bumping out of sympathy. If it's short and you say it's worth it, I'll look it up. Do you happen to have a digital copy?
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>>9047432
Cheers! Unfortunately not, otherwise I would share. I do think I've tried finding it online (in English) without success in the past, but if you find it please let me know. Otherwise I'd try ordering it from a larger library.
It's very short but thought-provoking. I think perhaps it would speak more to women than men, but it would certainly be interesting to hear a man's perspective on it. I think it describes female coming-to-age better than I have ever read before. In a philosophical, deeply psychological sort of way. It is Beauvoir after all, not some Jane Austen shit.
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>>9046241
>really made me think
share your thoughts wil ya
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/lit/, give me your quick rundown on any book you like.
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Why?
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>Lives in Europe before the first world war.
>Travels to Davos to visit his cousin.
>Metaphorically travels into the underworld in some interpretations, discussing the roots of modernism and the clash of progress and history with the residents.
>Some say he has contacted spirits.
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>>9046226
Only if you'd enjoy doing it, anon.
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I need to make a historical fiction short story about the French revolution by tomorrow, but I'm too fucking lazy. Can someone help?
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Literally just turn in a copy of The Scarlet Pimpenel.
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>>9046186
It has to be 1 page long. My professor is kind of a dick.
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Make it about a student in 1789 that has a historical fiction short story due in one day and he decides to not do his assignment because he is a lazy asshole but little does he know that the next day marks the beginning of the French Revolution.
What's your reading of "The Crying of Lot 49" and how does the novel stack up as a whole? Anyone who really liked it, how do you view it and how did you respond to it? I seem to be not understanding the reason for delving into fictional Renaissance history, or the way the novel came together at the end. Is there a value to the work as a piece of commentary? What did I miss?
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>>9046174
It's beautifully written, if you missed that, then I feel bad.
Sure, you could talk about how it makes a clever analogy between paranoia/conspiracy theories and trying to find a deeper meaning in the world, and ultimately leaves it ambiguous as to whether the meaning can be found or whether the person trying to find it is just "paranoid". You could say that Oedipa is Ahab and Trystero her Moby Dick. You could say a lot of stuff about the actual theme(s) of the book, but behind it all it's just a beautifully written little book. Talking about the themes is the tritest part, really.
Also, Torquato Tasso.
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beautiful prose and eccentric characters. i liked it didnt love it and its the only pynchon ive read so far but plan on reading more of his stuff soon. hes gud anon
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>>9046195
(BTW, Mucho Maas being given LSD and Dr. Hilarius is a reference to Project Paperclip and MK-Ultra, actual and terrifying conspiracies, funnily enough. You can Google either of those right now).
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Congratulations, /lit/, you have been found favorable by a wayward spirit, and he deigns to grant you a boon.
You will receive complete and perfect knowledge of any philosopher of your choosing. You will instantly have read all their works, along with all schools of thought related to their works. You yourself will have the definitive interpretation of their work, as surely as if you were them, themselves.
However, the spirit asks for a favor in return. It asks you to take the knowledge it will grant you and write a work of fiction that heavily applies it. Just as The Divine Comedy draws extensively from Thomism, so the work you write must draw from the philosopher you choose.
Which philosopher do you choose, and what do you write?
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>>9046161
Jacques maritain.
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J.K. Rowling
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Heidegger
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Bogpill me on this.
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Might possibly accelerate humanity toward a new age of wisdom, peace, and love.
Fun read, has pizza.
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>>9046113
Someone give me the rundown on this book
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>>9046138
Afro-Korean-American computer hacker who's a samurai on the internet gets fired from his job delivering pizzas for the mafia and investigates a computer virus written by the Sumerians that infects people's brains, aided by a fourteen year old girl who gets high on drugs and gets raped by a Siberian whale hunter whose heart is connected to a nuclear bomb, but it's okay because she likes it, and gets saved by the mafia boss who fought in Vietnam, while the computer samurai has a motorcycle sword fight with the Siberian (on the internet) to decide the fate of the world
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Was he full of shit?
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Yes, that's the secret of a body without organs
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>>9046063
He didn't know what he was saying. Truth be told the Frankfurt school were using Information from demonic entities and it is all part of a very long history of file sharing between the follower of Hiram Abiff and fallen angels. You can think of Deleuze as a kid on limewire not realizing he was dling 5 second porno clips and viruses from this vast network of knowledge.
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>in upper division course on Shakespeare
>girl asks why Shakespeare's conception of love is worse than John green's
>she tells the professor to read paper towns
Why do we let women read
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"Heh... her opinion is so plebeian,,,, luckily with my superior intelligent and humanities training i know the truth......."
"That'll be $8.34 - Thanks, come again!"
"Y-you too"
"Fuckin normies,,,,,,,,,"
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>>9046443
This is incoherent
I cant tell how many people this convo is between, which line is spoken by whom, etc.
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My girlfriend reads, and she remembers the hell of going to a bookclub in high school in the hope of making some friends (she's kind of an introverted, cynical loner) and discovering to her horror that they all read John Green and Manga. Needless to say, she didn't go back. I think she was in her miserable Russian novel phase, and brought along Anna Karenina or something. None of them had heard of it.
She remained a cynical loner.
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Is Houellebecq not writing so much anymore? There was submission quite recently but he isn't as public as he used to be
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have you seen pictures of him? the man is knocking on heaven's door
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Looks like Crooked Hillary
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>>9045902
Maybe he's working on a tome.
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1. Are individuals morally obligated to be charitable, or is it a supererogatory act?
2. Are states morally obligated to be charitable, or is it a supererogatory act?
3. Are the duties that human beings have towards one another different from the duties that states have towards one another? If there is a difference, what is it?4. Are states morally obligated to be charitable, or is it a supererogatory act?
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What say the big moral theorists?
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Depends on your definition of charity
If you're talking about letting a person die when you could've helped them, then you're a shitty person. Similar with less impacting events than death.
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>>9045901
Shitty person or simply someone who failed to be a great person?