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A question for writers familiar with Jungian typology/MBTI:

Do you ever use certain Jungian/MBTI types to help develop your protagonist and other characters? I'v had a creative essay to do for college and I'v been basing my character around the "ENTJ" personality type, I'v found it 10x easier for his character development and I also find him a lot more interesting because of it.
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>>9069787
>tfw rarest personality type at INFJ

Makes me think
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>>9069794
OP here: after doing some research into the cognitive functions, I found out that I'm apparently "INTJ". Apparently that's like the second rarest.
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Maybe an interesting experiment, definitely a bullshit metric though.

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Literally the most overrated female poet of all time.

Why don't they make kids learn actual good female poets like Boland?
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She's pretty damn good. Lady Lazarus and Death & Co. are amazing. You can't argue someone is overrated when he produces a poem like:

Two, of course there are two.
It seems perfectly natural now ---
The one who never looks up, whose eyes are lidded
And balled? like Blake's.
Who exhibits

The birthmarks that are his trademark ---
The scald scar of water,
The nude
Verdigris of the condor.
I am red meat. His beak

Claps sidewise: I am not his yet.
He tells me how badly I photograph.
He tells me how sweet
The babies look in their hospital
Icebox, a simple

Frill at the neck
Then the flutings of their Ionian
Death-gowns.
Then two little feet.
He does not smile or smoke.

The other does that
His hair long and plausive
Bastard
Masturbating a glitter
He wants to be loved.

I do not stir.
The frost makes a flower,
The dew makes a star,
The dead bell,
The dead bell.

Somebody's done for.
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>>9069537
garbage
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>>9069532
>Boland
Fuck her and fuck the department of education for putting her on the leaving cert

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What's a good book to read on your 20th birthday
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>>9069470
If you're a virgin then Schopenhauer's 'On Women'
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Since you're a millennial: the Harry Potter series.
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>>9069483
What if you're not a virgin but you are a NEET

>>9069491
Thank s

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How is it even possible to understand all this?
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Should've bought it in english, dummy
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With rigorous study.
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Why would you even want to read it unless you're a scholar?

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>Lol my mom dressed me up in girls' clothes when I was 3 years old and now I overcompensate by flaunting a see-through façade of manliness but I have crippling depression because I'm a huge wuss inside and my whole literary career was a continuous attempt at hiding this.

Why do we like Hemingway again?
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Because we're all fuckin' pussies that are just trying to hide under a veil of machismo, so it's pretty easy to relate.

No?
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It was actually quite intentional, pleb retard.
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I don't like him, in fact he is the only academically approved author I actually hate and I hate him because of his retarded """""minimalism""""".

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What is /lit's opinion on the school of life?
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>>9067797
poop
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>>9067798
Do elaborate.
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>>9067797
loses its appeal quickly
perspective on life is kind of narrow minded, doesnt take enough vantage points into consideration
assumes alot of things about you as a person
trying to sell their overpriced merchandise

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How much of an autist do you have to be to agree with Marx

No one becomes a marxist. You are born a marxist. Not one single neutral nonbiased person in our days reads Marx and agrees with him. Everyone that reads this:
>Abolition of the family! Even the most radical flare up at this infamous proposal of the Communists. On what foundation is the present family, the bourgeois family, based? On capital, on private gain. In its completely developed form this family exists only among the bourgeoisie. But this state of things finds its complement in the practical absence of the family among the proletarians, and in public prostitution. The bourgeois family will vanish as a matter of course when its complement vanishes, and both will vanish with the vanishing of capital.

Agrees with it but marxists. No one. Back in high school I despised marxists, but I never spoke a word against marxism because I still hadn't read Marx. But as soon as I read two of his books I realized how retarded and wishful it is. All fucking marxists blame all the problems in the entire world on capitalism. Even here I saw someone saying that people only worry about existential problems because they don't do communal work, and in communism we wouldn't have those problems. Admit that it is absolutely ridiculous and wishful.

When I read Marx, I thought that maybe I had misunderstood him. Maybe in that speech about the family he didn't mean that family shouldn't exist, maybe he meant that the family forces the man into capitalism because he needs to work to sustain his family. Although that's still pretty retarded, it would be more acceptable. But no, he and all marxists I asked meant that the family shouldn't exist.
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>>9066624
>Everyone that reads this:
>agrees with it but marxists
Disagrees with it but marxists*
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>>9066624
>On what foundation is the present family, the bourgeois family, based? On capital, on private gain.

He's not wrong.
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>>9066644
So what do you suggest? Like Marx says, abolition of the family? Send the kids to orphanages, where they'll grow with no real example of how they should be like, no close relationship with a mother or a father? See how orphanages kids grow. Lots kill themselves, some engage with prostitution, drugs and robbery, and practically all of them have no hope for the future and believe they will never achieve anything grand.
And if you suggest that the kids should have a close relationship with someone working on the orphanage, then you're just replacing the parents.

Besides, the family foundation is not based on capital. In Marx's time, I don't know. But not today. The affection the parents give, the example, the teachings, have nothing to do with capital.

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does /lit/ keep a journal/diary? is it worth it?
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Yeah, but only to practice my jap. Writing it just makes me depressed.
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>>9066440
I like to use it as a source when I have nothing else to write about.
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I've had one for almost two years now but haven't done much lately. If you're a shut-in loser like I am most of your comments will be about what you're reading, what you're doing (browsing 4chan), and nothing really interesting.

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Hi /lit/, what are some essential novels everyone should have in their bookshelf? :)
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Pirde an Perjudice
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da Bibbel
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>>9066143
The Koran

Is this going to be the book of the year /lit/?
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>>9064457
>mentally ill faggot

I don't think so desu
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New sincerity at its most sincere. The most creative insight into the minds of today's 20-year-old college students. A veritable tour de force and an unparalleled literary achievement. Absolutely sublime.

Hold your horses, David Foster Wallace!
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>>9064463
Precisely why I think it will be good
If he could tap into some Hitchens and tone down on the black dick

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What's some good historical fiction? Pic related was phenomenal and I liked I, Claudius too. But I'm having trouble finding anything else, Goodreads only seems to recommend YA trash.
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Does War & Peace count as historical fiction?
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>>9062774
Yeah I'd count that.
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>>9062771
Alexander at the World's End by Tom Holt
Enchantress of Florence by Salman Rushdie

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Chapters 1-4

First edition

What do you guys think so far? Personally, the prose is top-tier comfy and the humor is perfectly subtle and witty.

So far:

Don Quixote has named himself and his maiden, was knighted by an innkeeper, "rescued" a servant from being whipped, and was beaten to a pulp by a passing caravan.

>Audiobook and e-books
https://mega.nz/#F!VANiTKYZ!HEO-5zzoegwgBt8djXxb_A

>Poll
http://www.strawpoll.me/12244787
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Schedule
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How come no one has told him that he isn't a knight? The ladies laughed at him first, but began to play into it.
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>chuunibyou in the 17th century

what is this

what edition is this?
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motel room edition
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Is it signed by the author?
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>>9075056
yeah, but he wrote Gabe Newell

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Which books would you read to/let your kid read at age

2-5
6-8
9-12
13-15
16 and above

pic unrelated
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The Jews and Their Lies by Martin Luther.
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>>9074972
Mein Kampf
Schopenhauer's On Women
The Bell Curve

Basically all they need.
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>2-5
The very hungry Caterpillar
>6-8
Struwwelpeter
>9-12
Neverending story
13-15
Catcher in the Rye
>16 and above
Give him the /lit/ starter pack

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Currently reading Blood Meridian. Is it bad if I have to turn to the dictionary at virtually every fricking paragraph? Does that make me a pleb? For example, I didn't know what a tanyard is. Do you? Am I supposed to know this? Is this normal, maybe even intended, or am I just an illiterate pleb?

Pic related
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>>9074868
i had to. english isn't my first language tho.
now i know what gaudy means
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>>9074868
>being a frogman
>asking whether you're pleb

wew
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i wouldn't worry about it; the language is quite esoteric in my opinion

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