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Repeating digits and OP is the next John Green

What if I told you that /lit/ is nothing more than a cybernetic transmission sent from the future in order to have you finish your novel at a very specific instance in time?

>>9081113
If dubs your book(s) won't be published until your death, whereupon it will be heavily edited to lose all poetic value and it will become widely popular among normies who will misinterpret all of your central ideas and use it for cheap "I'm smart" points at dinner parties.

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Schedule

This thread reminds me of those groups of old ladies who go into coffee shops to talk about the books they saw Oprah (or whatever that ape is called) talking about

>>9081061
>It's another Donny Q ruins an interesting story by interrupting episode

>>9080903
Highschooler detected.

>>9080907
op here

I know Vonnegut is entry level but I have to do an essay related to "Metafiction"and he's all I got

Harrison Bergeron

But I have!

>>9080852
I only buy books that have interesting topics

>>9080852
>>>/pol/
we're above your kind here

Start with the Keats

you need to learn about poetry before you'll actually enjoy it probably

read 'poetic meter and poetic form', Paul Fussell

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This nigga right here

>>9080804
START

>>9080806
WITH

>>9080804
WITH

Put a teenage vampire in it, chop off your willy, and claim to be an extremely light skinned black activist on Twitter

They'll publish 200k words of you reviewing dragon dildos

You know, once you've been writing short stories for a while, you realize holy shit 5,000, 10,000, 25,000 words is nothing--'I could write that in a few weeks.' 50,000 starts to seem even more trivial in comparison.

Just keep writing it OP, don't let the thought of publishing shape the way you write it. Once you finish it, then you can pare and strike out great sections of it or 'darling' tangents and asides. Even just simply go through it line by line and frag unnecessary or redundant sentences. You'll find you have a lot you can remove and then you'll have already written the whole thing and have the easy job of restructuring and organizing it.

>>9080780
>not constantly improving your grip on your craft
>not having original ideas/insights
>not writing for it's own sake
>writing to become popular and not writing to create a work of timeless beauty
Cuck

I am of the opinion that TSD is a better place to start with Bolaño but if you wanna jump into 2666, you'll find 'the first masterpiece of the 21st century,' you'll find a category of writing unto its own, a dreamy blend of reality, a sense of doom.

The first four sections accrete into the fifth. The fourth is a little difficult emotionally and mentally to read but then you get lush wonderland fairytale prose in the fifth section. I say this as the fourth section is where most people get stuck, so carry on /lit/izen.

The English translation is quite excellent. Natasha Wimmer is a champ, as always.

Maybe if you had some more specific questions about the book I could help you out more, OP

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>>9080812
senpai I just started TSD, what are your thoughts on it? worth the read? liking it so far.

>>9080820
I believe it's possibly even more of a masterpiece than 2666. 2666 is a mawing beast written by a maximalist dying man trying to stuff every ounce of brilliance he has into a final piece of writing as a culmination of his work. The Savage Detectives is a tad more orderly and structured but is also a bit of a life's work, the second section in particular. I think the second section of that book is possibly the most impressive piece of fiction I've ever encountered in all my reading. I am so thankful I came upon that at such an early age (18).

It has a perfect structure. I assume you're still on part 1 and the sexual adventures of JGM and his involvement with the viscerrealists so I won't go too far into it. But pay attention as to where you see the focal point of narration occurring ('What are Juan Garcia Madero's motivations and aspirations and who plays a part of them?'), pay attention to the tone ('How does Bolaño achieve this dreaminess? This realist surreality? What mood am I detecting when I read this?').

The first section is so readable, it's possible one of the most entertaining things he's ever written. JGM's apprenticeship as a poet is so endearing and he's such a lovely, loveable narrator and character. The second section is very different and I've recommended this to a lot of people who end up quitting a few chapters into it, but just, a fucking monument of writing ability


I don't know, got anything else?

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>>9080731
This was good.

Haven't tried to learn german, but a simple method is writting i, you, he/she/it, we, you, they in a column, and learn to conjugate verbs in each case, learning the past, future, conditional, subjuntive, etc

For full on course books older ones of assimil, Berlitz, and Colliquial are quite good. Go through one of them, a Grammer book, and learn more vocabulary through anki or duolingo. Then start consuming as much German media you can a day, German movies with subtitles, German news and accessible German literature, ect.

>>9080712
It's good, just very long winded and repetitive. Since there's no art Moore like to go overboard with the descriptions, but he's great at it.

Morrison>Moore

>>9080712
Ebin maymay friendo lel xDDD

Before any serious discussion of Infinite Jest can commence, it's important to establish a few things. When we talk about David Foster Wallace, we’re talking about a genius of the highest calibur. A man whose I.Q. could not be measured. Even the most prestigious I.Q. tests cap out at around 200. Beyond that, they get imprecise. So when we talk about Wallace, we really don’t know whether we’re dealing with a man with an I.Q. of 200 or 300 or what. When it comes to Wallace-tier geniuses, everything goes out the window. You see, Wallace could have entered any field he wanted. He was a real-life Will Hunting. He could’ve been a doctor or a lawyer, or both, if he wanted. He could’ve been a pioneer in physics. He could’ve been a codebreaker for the NSA. But no. He decided to be a writer. He decided to devote his life to aesthetic beauty and to illuminating for us the way to live. That was the beauty and the tragedy of his life. In one way, it’s a blessing to have been born in Wallace’s time, to be able to hear his voice in interviews, to hear him delivering his famous commencement speech, which is already transforming people both intellectually and spiritually. On the other hand, I will surely die before we know even half of the secrets buried within the labyrinth of Infinite Jest. That I consider a curse.

It’s been eighteen years since Infinite Jest was published and scholars have only begun to come to terms with its full implications. This is what you must understand. Wallace reverse-engineered not only the novel, but all of Western literature as well as language itself. Packed within Infinite Jest is Hamlet, The Brothers Karamazov, Gravity’s Rainbow, Ulysses, and everything else. Hell, it even serves as an overview of human history, from dawn to today. It's about 85% a history of Western philosophy as well. It’s a book you could spend a lifetime studying. A lifetime spent in bliss, no doubt. Indeed, it would be more worthwhile to spend one’s life reading and rereading Infinite Jest than to achieve being “well-read” in the traditional sense.

Of course we don't understand everything about the book yet. He knew things about life that we won’t discover for decades. Our job is merely to get on the road. In the decades to come, we may, if we’re lucky, discover scientific applications for the new paradigms of thought Wallace gave us. We may have to throw out science altogether. We simply don’t know yet. For now, we have to be content with our vanguard roles. We are the ones who will break the ground and loosen the soil for the Wallace’s future interpreters. This is not only our pleasure, but our duty.

knausgaard's "my struggle" - despite it's setting.

i have been keeping them on my bedside table all summer so I can read them when I'm too tired to read anything else/to break up more difficult books.

>>9080677
Infinite Meme!!! lel xDDD
kys

Intent seems okay. Won't give you any feedback until I have good old execution to point fingers at.

>>9080614
None of this matters unless you write it. Don't ask for our permission. Write it.

>>9080650
>>9080648
yeah, I'm already working on it

>>9080554
how do you justify "I'm going to go home and slit my throat with a razor"?
did you finish the book? It really couldn't have been more clear

>>9080584
Read it twice.

You can justify that action if your mentality allows it. But what I'm wondering is if Haller was justified to feel that living was so bad that suicide was a legitimate course of action for him.

>>9080584
I know i finished the book and had no idea what the fuck was going on

Read Dostoeyevski's The Dream Of A Ridiculous Man


or listen to the Audiobook which is read really well by Mike Pelton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7wrihZcAvo

>>9080487
I tought about that, and also Notes from Underground. I am yet to decide.

>>9080473
The Gambler was the first book from Dostoyevsky that i read and i enjoyed it very much.
After that i started Crime & Punishment and it was godtier. Maybe you should do that too.

>>9080427
He wasnt influential in his time at all

>>9080427
lol no. The best? Certainly.

>>9080460
this
symmetry and tigers and all that