What does /lit/ think about Jordan Petersons reading list and where should I start?
Crime and Punishment
The Brothers Karamazov
Notes from Underground
The Devils
The Idiot
Tolstoy
Confessions
The Kingdom of God is Within You
Bulgakov
The Master and Margarita
Solzhenitsyn
One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovitch
The Gulag Archipelago
The First Circle
Cancer Ward
Other books of critical importance:
Carl Jung
The Archetypes of the Collective Unconscious
Aion
Symbols of Transformation
Answer to Job
Erich Neumann
The Origins and History of Consciousness
The Great Mother
George Orwell
1984
The Road to Wigan Pier
Animal Farm
Down and Out in Paris and London
Homage to Catalonia
Aldous Huxley
Brave New World
The Doors of Perception
Other Works
The Discovery of the Unconscious (Henri Ellenberger)
The Neuropsychology of Anxiety (Jeffrey Gray)
Affective Neuroscience (Jaak Panksepp)
The Emotional Brain (Joseph LeDoux)
>>9077518
Follow the Western Canon. Start with the Greeks.
http://sonic.net/~rteeter/grtbloom.html
>>9077518
They're all important works, but it's a far from exhaustive list. And most of this is stuff you should've already read.
It's a situation of "reading most of it wouldn't be a waste of time per se, but you'd be better off with a different list".
Skip the Solzhenitsyn besides Gulag, the Jung. Neumann, Orwell beyond 1984 and Huxley beyond BNW, the Other Works, and go for WaP, AK and Ivan Ilyich in Tolstoy
So if you haven't heard by now, we're working on a new collaborative novel!
This one is slightly more structured than most previous efforts, so the planning process might seem more in-depth than some anons may be used to. One of the positive side effects of this though, is that everyone can have equal opportunity in shaping the greater creative vision. And, if you don't particularly like planning, and want to jump into writing right away, there is a place for that too, even during these early stages.
Basically, if you want to jump into the planning side of the creative process (whether it's coming up with character names, chapter arcs, potential titles, themes, styles, cover art, etc) then jump in this doc:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mRH7rfS21WKMPzLEDMxcRtnB38rpkraTgL4dOKBlJIo/edit?usp=sharing
And if you just wanna put something down on the page, whether its something you wrote three years ago and think it might fit somehow, or something you wanna write specifically for the project, then jump in this doc:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-cp4Avh4E2VYGLPdV1afZnKsZeY-2_GUVjqyRNeKFmE/edit?usp=sharing
If you are having trouble understanding how this all works, which is very understandable, do not worry. In the posts below will be a quick, but detailed, rundown of the basic premise for the project. I would recommend ALL anons read through this rundown before contributing to either doc, to ensure that we are all on the same page.
Worth Noting:
- The current title (Pantheon) is just a working title. Title and cover art discussion is currently taking place in the first linked document
- Eventually, once the initial details are fleshed out, there will be individual google docs for each core chapter (see premise rundown below for info on how chapters are going to work)
- Periodically, you may find that public editing is restricted. This will usually be because a pesky anon has been meddling with or mass deleting the document. During these times you can still edit and add comments, your edits will simply remain pending until approval. I will do my best to approve all edits as soon as possible during these times.
- Always feel free to post your contributions, criticisms, discussions and whatever else in the thread as well, if you don't feel like going straight to the documents
- And finally, if you have any questions or confusions about the project, do not hesitate to ask!
>>9065364
Part 1/2 of the basic premise
PLEASE READ BEFORE CONTRIBUTING
>>9065378
2/2
was some nigger just deleting shit again?
>maybe the real infinite jest was the friends we made along the way
times when you dropped a book?
>>9094006
>now at last he had finally become....the Pale King
remind me again why /lit/ worships this hack?
>and finally after all these long hard years I realized we had been Concluding Unscientific Postscript to Philosophical Fragments the whole time!
Really Soren?
>Wow Virgil, that was truly an adventure, almost like a Divine Comedy
DANTE YOU HACK
If I post here a short history with 2 pages, would you guys read it? its on my 2nd language (english); I think its pretty good the work...
hm...
>>9098337
Must be the premium tale, main man, I would be homosexed to see story you bulldozed.
>>9098337
True.
Of all the novels written during the 20th century, which were the comfiest?
Lord of the Rings
>Tfw got "select all storefronts until there are none left"
>There were 12 storefronts
Can't say I have read any that I would describe as comfy
Maybe Stoner?
>>9098230
use legacy captcha
>>9098230
Refresh that shit, you can keep refreshing till you get select the square with a stop sign in it.
Or just switch to legacy captcha in options.
The Worm Ouroboros is comfy as fuck if you can eat the prose without choking. Buff dudes killing the shit out of each other in a larger-than-life war with no critique or meta-commentary, just aesthetic as fuck saga-esque writing and manly battles.
Naked wrestling.
Lavishly descriptions of feasts and outfits
At the endthey kill all the Witchlanders and ask the goddess they rescued to bring them back so they can kill them again, and she does.
I feel like I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. I don't give a shit about all the boring as fuck turgid classics novels or philosophical works. But if I don't read them then I'll be considered a pleb.
I know before reading it that The Republic will have one particular point of view out of infinitely many and will be filled with trivial insights and stupid assertions. Why the fuck do I need to slog through it?
I know beforehand that Nietzche is a Mr Motivator for pseudo intellectuals.
I know that all of Dostoevsky's long books are boring as fuck. I know his "profound philosophical insights" will be worthless shit and trivial and probably have mostly been invented by people writing "literary interpretations" (e.g., bullshit, and I'll be criticised for saying that).
Forcing myself through Nicholas Nickleby caused me to read less than 10 books in a year. And I didn't even finish Nicholas Nickleby. It was horrifically dull. I can't believe Dickens gets praised for this. It fully confirms the idea that literature is a dead medium that is used mainly as a social signalling mechanism for pseudo intellectuals.
>>9097941
How many threads a day do you make?
Why haven't you killed yourself yet? You are leading the most pathetic life imaginable.
Go suck off the exhaust pipe of your mum's car
>>9097941
I suspect some people you respect and admire value some of these books. Why do you think that is? Could it be that you're missing something? Might it be worthwhile to try and find out just what it is?
If, on the other hand, no one you respect and admire values these books, skip them. Why would you care about being considered a pleb by people you don't respect and admire?
>>9097941
read lysistrata. if you don't like dick jokes then you're basically already dead and just need to finish the job.
Non-native English speakers, how fast do you read? Do you get tired of reading when you have to look up for translate of words?
>>9097875
>Non-native English speakers, how fast do you read?
same speed as my native language
>Do you get tired of reading when you have to look up for translate of words?
I don't need to look up more words than when I read in my native tongue
>its another monolingual subhumans think learning languages is hard thread
>>9097935
This. It's really not hard, it's just a lot of repetition.
Why should the works of Shakespeare be taught in schools?
>>9097747
Because he was a decent playwright
>>9097747
They shouldn't really. His work is almost as overrated as Dickens
Hamlet, Macbeth, King Lear.
wtf i hate schopenhauer now!In all seriousness, I genuinely enjoyed this show, although it did get repetitive and/or pander at times. 7/10 would see again.
>>9097699
This thread is now about the redpill's views on women
>>9097711
>implying le ebin matrix reference philosophy even has coherent views on women
It's just misogyny dressed in pseudoscience.
>>9097699
they update it and drop parts out so it changes over time. to be honest i'm kind of surprised the only thing you need to do to get women into sadistic (as in resembling the works of the marquis de sade) shit like that is to frame it as a wo is me marathon. it makes me wonder if justine by sade would be a best seller if you just released it under his title's living descendent's name, marianne faithfull
/ourguy/
>>9097579
>hates the printing press
>our guy
People who want to halt or reverse the activity of the planetary superorganism are naive idiots.
They're like tadpoles throwing a tantrum because they don't want to grow up into a frog.
We are the sex organs of the machine world. Resistance is futile.
>>9097598
The industrial revolution was a mistake anon not the printing press
Sorry if this is a retard question, but why do i need to start with the greeks if i want to fully understand other works?
one needs bricks to build a house
>>9097561
Because they're the foundation for all philosophical thought.
If you're going to read Pynchon and meme shit then you don't really need to
>>9097570
What if I just want to use wood?
Does anyone here stack their books horizontally instead of vertically?
>>9097509
Yes. I have no shelves, so I just have books piled on the floor. 500 or so. It's a fucking mess
this post reaches autismal levels of stupidity
>>9097515
Why on earth don't you have bookshelves?
Could we discuss this?
I enjoyed it. Why was Darl going crazy? Why was the mom referred to as a fish ?
>>9097508
it's a meme
>>9097508
i hated it
I also loved this book when i read it. Darl had schizophrenia as far as my class was concerned. It made the most realistic sense. I dont remember the mom being referred to as a fish though
Everyone's trying to read faster but is anyone else actually trying to slow down?
I just get into a book more when I really savor each word and detail, but part of me just wants to get through it all quickly.
I read books pretty slow, this results in a very vivid experience because i'm taking into account every single word instead of skimming over it to generally get what the book is getting at. Depends from book to book too I think. For philosophy books you might want to slow down more, and novels like harry potter you might want to read very fast(because you want to finish it asap cause its for idiots)
I feel like information technologies really mess with my reading
reading should be a mode of being, not consumption nor a search for information
>>9097275
>skimming over it to generally get what the book is getting at.
no one really does this... right?
It's not that I dislike highbrow literature. If I read three genre fiction books in a row, I'd be begging to be given a meaningful book. The point is, I need variety or I get burnt out.
How do some of you guys only read intellectual books? How can you relax after a long day's work by getting intellectually raped? I get the value of literature that isn't fun, I just don't get how you guys can go without getting a breath of fresh air?
I haven't read an "easy" book in months, and I'm looking forward to being able to switch off my thinking cap. Why do some of you guys not do the same?
Maybe some of you are just intellectually tougher, but surely, at one point the same thoughts as mine crossed your mind.
>>9097023
Your first mistake was getting memed into the "Highbrow=hard work, Lowbrow=easy fun" paradigm by pop culture and marketing.
It's terminal, I'm afraid.
Classic newfag mistake: taking shitposts at face value. "Comfy" threads usually feature easy/relaxing reading. My comfy reading is gonzo journalism and the new yorker.
>>9097050
wot.
i got memed hard fucking hell