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Is Demons a good follow up to the Brothers K? I've heard some people on here say the two go together as far as their ideas in that they're opposites. Also did Dostoevsky really predict the rise of Lenin in Demons or are people just reading to far into the book?
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>>9960292
This is my favourite Dostoyevski book. Bros Kos may be a masterpiece but this one just stuck to me.
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It predicts the rise of revolutionary, socialist, and atheist groups who will use extreme violence and disregard for other humans as a means to an end
Dosto wasn't totally predicting this as the basis of the story (the political half at least) was a murder in a revolutionary circle in 1869 or so
The real heart of the story imo is the relationship between Shatov, Kirillov and Stavrogin, and iirc Dosto said Stavrogin was the character he was most obsessed with in all his works

It's definitely worth a read as it is also the book in which Dosto shows the extent of his storytelling capabilities with a clear narrator's voice and a lot of really funny moments
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>>9960292


>>9960301
And yes, I do believe Dosto predicted many things. I highly respect him, he's my favourite author even tho Im an atheist and I don't relate to various things he usually proposes.

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How easy is it to read books outside of what you have to read for college classes? Asking because I'm going to college soon.
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>>9960120
Depends entirely on the class. If you take Literature, they expect you to read Pride and Prejudice in a week, which doesn't leave much room for other stuff. Also expect to have a weird sleep schedule that fucks with your concentration.
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>>9960120
Depends on your coursework and whatever else you're doing. If autists can find a way to play Magic for six hours a day in the Student Center then you'll be able to find time to read.
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>>9960144
I'm going to be majoring in Accounting if that makes any difference. Considering that it's a Business major, I'm probably going to have more time to read than someone who's majoring in some STEM field.
Memorization's probably going to be more of an issue though. I don't know how much more shit I should really be memorizing besides what I have to memorize for my classes. Honestly, I'm probably just going to drop reading.

Does bookdepository actually deliver if you order via VPN to manipulate prizes?
It's already past my deliver period, and I still haven't received the book.
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>>9960052
>manipulate prizes
What?
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>>9960059
If you enter via different country vpn ip the prize is different.
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>>9960071
What prizes anon?
I order all the time and all I get are bookmarks and wine discounts.

I felt intrigued about how someone could make a story from Minecraft so I started reading this book. I just completed chapter one and it is clever how the author is bringing in aspects of the game for character that is from our real world that got sucked into the game world. I honestly felt it was a little cheap in how he used the whole "Alice in Wonderland" thing to setup his novel when he could have written a story that was set in a Minecraft world and saw the main characters going on a quest which leads them to discover something big like how they reside in a computer simulation poking fun at the whole simulation hypothesis. Maybe their world gets destroyed and they stumble upon a freshly generated one to start over.

But still, it just feels weird knowing that there is a book about Minecraft that isn't just a guide on how to play the game. This is an actual story about the game even though subtlety I get the feeling it's more or less a guide about how to play Minecraft. I do think Mojang found potential in the future publication of novels instead of just guides and sources.

Now feel free to call me a faggot.
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Does the book add anything new to the children fantasy genre or is it just a cliché story that happens in Minecraft?
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>>9960312
So far, I just read chapter two, it's just him discovering what a Minecraft world entails. He just learned about the animals of the world and had a brush with a zombie. I'm still not sure if I could call it a cliche story yet though because while it does feel like your typical castaway story set in Minecraft there is a sort of uniqueness to it but that may just be because it's set in the cubic game.
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>>9960032
Can I enjoy the book without knowing how to play Minecraft? I've always been curious about the minds of autistic manchildren.

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Can someone explain the difference between negative and positive rights? It's not making any sense to me.
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Negative right: a right that is ensured by the voluntary non-infringement of others. E.g: you don't need resources to uphold the right to free speech, you only need to make sure nobody is running around slashing the throats of people who disagree with them.

Positive right: a right which is ensured by the active contribution of resources by others, voluntarily or forcibly. E.g: universal healthcare is a right which would require a tremendous amount of taxpayer dollars to maintain.

The problem with positive rights is that there is no logical reason why you shouldn't just stop at nationalized healthcare, nationalized transportation, nationalized education, etc. and instead go full-fledged communism. Positive rights imply that the communalization of [thing] is better than [thing] being left to private hands; but if that's the case, why not communalize all the things? It's the slippery slope at it's finest.
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Negative right is freedom from something

Positive right is a right to something

At a fundamental level negative and positive rights clash because from the negative perspective, on what grounds should one be forced to provide rights for others from his resources?

Of course, to make this shit work in real life involves logically unsatisfying compromises on top of compromises to avoid the ideas from regressing to unsustainable dystopias.

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>Ender's Game
>It was real and not a game the whole time

Wow
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>Crime and Punishment
>There was a crime and punishment for said crime

Really makes you think, huh?
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>Stoner
>Nobody in the book smokes weed

Whoa

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So, how's that short story or novel coming along?
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I stare at my coffee and aderall, hoping theyre the gods to help me write. So instead I take a drag of my smokes and feel better, hoping the moment i take a dump i'd find some inspiration.
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>>9959963
If I can keep up 500 words a day I'll be done by new years
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>>9959976
You can find inspiration anywhere anon

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what do you think its like being an author like Franzen, cohen or tao that come here and see us shit all over them. especially cohen because none of us have read him. or intend to. I figure they see their shit reviews on goodreads and just write them off as goodread plebs. then go to reddit and see nothing. then come here and see this negativity. i feel like franzen and cohen probably dont come here that often. are authors pre programed for hate. do they think haters will just be haters. how do you deal with stuff like that as an author. im also witz poster and i would just like to apologize. i didnt think cohen posting would take off. a lot of what ive tried before doesnt work.
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>>9959962
honestly DFW probably saw a thread about him on /b/ and killed himself deshu
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Why do we think Franzen shills here? He's actually successful.
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>>9959962
I liked The Corrections though.

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My mom texted me asking if I know who Jakob Böhme is because apparently her coworker's son is making a ballet based on his life. Where should I start with him once I finish the Bible?
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>>9959901
I've only read his short dialogues on the Super-Sensual Life, but they were accessible. I don't know much about him desu, the title merely caught my eye.
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>>9959901
Read hegel first, since Hegel is Boehme on easy mode.
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>>9959901
Who?

I'm going to use up all my vacation time and rent a cabin out in the woods, what is some recommendations for books to lose myself in while I'm cut off from the outside world?
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You best start training now for when the skinwalkers/fleshgaits come for you. Lurk /x/ and read books on skinwalkers.
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My wife and I are doing this for a week this October in the Blue Ridge Mountains in Virginia.

I'm planning to read Mason and Dixon
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>>9959932
I have, and I can safely say they're nothing but a bunch of

>>9959935
Looks like a good read! I'll put it on the list.

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Has anyone here read this? Any tips on reading through it?

My shit tier strategy atm is basically reading the proofs until I understand, with a pen(cil) and unmarked paper ready (unmarked because I haven't yet felt compelled to write anything down). I'm mostly skipping the annotations on this read except where confusing or particularly interesting, since I'm more engaged in the actual text, but will read these thoroughly during a second and third read.

I'm almost done with the first of Heath's volumes, and it worries me that my paper is still unmarked. Am I not gaining anything by taking no notes, or practicing proving these propositions myself, like old Abe?

My blog post is almost complete, but I'd like to leave a footnote that I recently read Mortimer Adler's "How to Read a Book", with the algorithm summed up here: http://lesswrong.com/lw/dao/how_to_read_a_book/

I mention this because I haven't really done any of it, pls shit on me. /blog
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What is your ultimate goal in accomplishing reading this book? honestly curious
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>>9959854
While my interest lead me to the book (such as math, mathematical and philosophical history, and as of late: starting with the greeks), I haven't really asked myself what my ultimate goal is.

So, since you stresed the honesty, I will give this honest consideration. Given my interest, it should be clear it's to deepen my knowledge in the aforementioned subjects, but after reflecting on this question a bit I think a significant portion of it boils down to an attempt to gain a competitive advantage in math, as I'm completing a degree in that now and try to read texts outside the normal cirriculum to stay ahead.

Saying this, it sounds silly, as reading the elements clearly won't help moreso than any other modern day geometry text worth it's salt, and that could clearly be better spent doing something much more constructive to my 'resume', but reading John Stillwell's "Elements of Mathematics" birthed additional motivation in gaining the bigger picture of maths, and exploring the contributions from individual authors is fun and interesting.

So I don't know, that's a difficult question to answer but I hope I did well enough for you to get the jist.
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>>9959907
I thought of beating myself with textbooks in my degree (Engineering) but found that to be useless. If you're dedicated in "staying ahead" why not create a dialogue between you and your professor, theyre the best resources to give insight by creating meaningful exchanges , something books cant offer you, My two cents

I'm trying to start reading reguarly but I think I'm either dyslexic or severely brain damaged because even the lit wiki's entry level list is giving me trouble. What are some good children's/young adult's books?
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Chronicles of Narnia?
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Heh. Sorry kid, you're not gonna make it here... This board is for educated people who have been actively reading since toddlerhood, we don't have time for handholding. Me? I'm working on my Masters of English and Im one of newer guys here. Nothing personal but you're better off going to reddit, kid.
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>>9959764
Just read some YA. Most the stuff /lit/ recommends is trash anyways.

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What book changed it all for you, /lit/? I'm talking perspective-changing stuff that made you see the world, nature, your fellow man with a deeper understanding.

Bonus points for something that spurned real action or change in your personal life. Not necessarily philosophy, but that would be OK.
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Nothing. Epiphanies like that don't actually happen, they are just simple storytelling devices.
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>>9959799
don't know about you my dude but i get epiphanies not infrequently. it's the best feeling there is, drives me to learn and think more
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>>9959799
I get epiphanies but only when studying mathematics.

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will it be kino? will it be /lit/?
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I'm beginning to believe in Chaos Magik being channeled from this website.
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ready your bodies, boys. it's our time.
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>>9959729
cross board memes?

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>we STRONGLY encourage submissions from persons of color, immigrants and the undocumented, and members of the LGBQT community ;)
>Take a look at what we publish to get an idea of our journal! --> Life
is
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my feelings
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>Trump
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^^^WINNER OF THE 2017 POETRY CONTEST

Of course I'm only slightly exaggerating, but this is a big problem with modern day publishing. What are we to do?
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Submit to journals and publishers that aren't retarded.
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>>9959663
Da fuck are you even talking?
Links or gtfo

>What are we to do?
We flood them with no libtard works
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>>9959667
Very rare and hard to find. If you can link me to such examples, please do

>>9959675
Every single outlet on submittable and other major publishing sites

>flood them with no libtard works
As if they would accept them, they want to appeal to the masses

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