Hey /lit/, I'm not a big literary kind of guy but my friend sent me her poem and I seriously don't know what to tell her. I honestly think it's shit but as I've said I know fuck all about writing and poetry and all that gay shit so I wouldn't know good writing if it snuck up behind me and stuck a carrot in my ass Bugs Bunny style. So here's one of the poems. I'd like to give her some sort of constructive criticism or something or just some sort of comment that doesn't make look like a completely clueless asshole.
>>9103993
>le thinly veiled woman hate thread
lol womminz r so dumb
>>9103993
>and all that gay shit
Nice post dude
Have any of you read this? It's absolutely stunning. Woolf is phenominal, why don't we talk about her more often? She may be /ourguy/
>>9103764
Did a 12 hour long full performance reading of this at uni. Staarted at 6am as the sun rises in the book, ended at 6pm as the sun sets in the book. Changed locations and read-aloud too
>>9103764
>Oh, but there is your face. I catch your eye. I, who had been thinking myself so vast, a temple, a church, a whole universe, unconfined and capable of being everywhere on the verge of things and here too, am now nothing but what you see—an elderly man, rather heavy, grey above the ears, who (I see myself in the glass) leans one elbow on the table, and holds in his left hand a glass of old brandy. That is the blow you have dealt me. I have walked bang into the pillar-box. I reel from side to side. I put my hands on my head. My hat is off—I have dropped my stick. I have made an awful ass of myself and am justly laughed at by any passer-by.
>>9103780
sounds sort of wonderful
What exactly is post irony?
Can people enjoy humor anymore if it isnt multilayered in unclear sincerity?
Im kind of bothered by all this.
start with the rowling
>>9103442
this dasu
>>9103428
"Hey, what do you guys think of Ulysses?" --- OP
"it's shit, total meme book lol" --- Hasn't read book, ironic
"it's shit lol, you got memed by the literary establishment" --- Has read book, is actually serious underneath the ironic surface text, post-irony
Simply put, it's using irony to express a serious thought in a 'direct' way, as opposed to a contrasting one (traditional irony).
Question, is Dostoyevsky a meme author or not? I just finished "Demons" and really enjoyed but am not sure if I'm retarded for liking it. It won't really change my opinion of it but I don't want to talk to my /lit/ friend in real life about it if it's shit tier. Could anybody recommend any other authors I might like?
Anyone who says he's not a good writer is either:
1) A pseud faggot who has no friends
2) Retarded because no MUH GUN FIGHTS
He's good... goddammit, you fucking bitch-ass mafuckas.
>>9103417
Jesus, what is is wrong with you?
>>9103417
Oh yes OP Dosto is indeed a meme author hehe
Has anything you've learned from literature helped you in any way? Are you able to apply these lessons to everyday life, or does it all end up in some cosmic pocket in your brain, separate from the real world?
1. Literature helps me to detach myself from my worries.
2. Literature helps me to appreciate the little things. Reading two pages on how beautiful the sky can be inspires me to actually notice the sky sometimes during the day, for example.
>>9103416
I don't know about 'learned,' per se, but certainly familiarized myself with some events, emotions, people, etc. Don Quixote's fantasies, Iago's revenge, Hamlet's ambition, The Garden of Eden, Humbert Humbert's obsession over the ever-fleeting Other, Stephen's spiritual journey, and so on. It's wisdom.
That's why Joyce called it the 'most spiritual of all the arts." But even if there wasn't wisdom, beauty is still a supreme Good in the world. What has anyone learned from Bach?
If we want to include non-fiction too, then philosophy has changed my life, yeah.
literature has got me laid more than a few times
also access to the sublime, functional ethical training, enjoyment/amusement
ITT: Combine the plot of your favorite book with your second favorite book
>>9102313
>an Italian general joins a gang of scalphunters while digging around for falledln Italian soldiers
Could work
>>9102319
This is Blood Meridian and what?
>>9102400
The General of the Dead Army.
Give me a quick run down on Nick Land?
He da man.
he wants top pay robots to fuck his wife and raise his wife's son
how does he make a living in Shanghai?
Worth reading or is this the autistic screeching of a mad hermit living in the forest and mailing bombs to universities?
>>9101733
Manifesto tier:
>God-tier
Elliot Rodger and Anders Breivik
>Incredible tier (LEFTISTS BTFO)
Unaman
>cuckold tier
Communist Manifesto, SCUM manifesto
Take the redpill
>>9101744
>Elliot Rodger
That loser had a manifesto? Is it just rambling /r9k/ nonsense about muh sluts and muh degeneracy?
>>9102626
Yes.
>Intellectual qt3.14 sees you reading, sits next to you
>"hey anon, watcha reading?"
>"oh, n-nothing. Just this book"
>"what's it called?"
>"uh... Stoner"
>*look of condescending disgust comes across face* "Oh... nevermind"
>qt walks away because she thinks you read Tucker Max-tier
Anybody else vain like me and feel this way about the title of this book?
>>9101127
It's an incredibly overrated book. But yeah, the title is bad too; or at least the title is bad nowadays. Not sure how long the word "stoner" has meant what it does now.
>>9101127
>can't bother even to read the title with her own eyes
>assumes immediately after it is spoken that it is a word rather than a name
Sounds like you dodged a bullet on that occasion.
Also, "intellectualism" is another word for "priestly," stop using this
>>9101137
Priestliness, rather
Any good books on statesmanship?
>>9100996
History of the Peloponnesian War by Thucydides
This probably covers most of it, but if you need more up to date stuff, just go with this too.
Diplomacy by Henry Kissinger
How to Win an Election
How to Run a Country
Both by Cicero.
The Statesman by Plato.
>When the Romans kill Socrates
>>9098397
>When the Athenian court sentences Jesus to death
>When the Americans exile Napoleon to Guantanamo
>>9098729
Yeah, but he got back. When he got sent to alcatraz, though...
ITT: Post your favorite book and try to guess what the person above you is like based off it.
>>9097798
ur a fag, mate
>>9097798
You're into LARP.
>>9097798
Edgy teen
I need a quick rundown on Foucault's concept of biopower and biopolitics.
Should I read "Security, Territory, Population", "The Birth Of Biopolitics" or "Society Must Be Defended"?
enjoy your aids
>>9097388
>I need a quick rundown on Foucault's concept of biopower and biopolitics.
From what I understand, its purpose is to destroy the race through the mass proliferation of cuckold pornography.
>>9097388
It's basically just 'muh feels'
t. im redpilled
Non-fictional books you find unsettling.
Pic related.
Also please let me know if you know any other recent books on artificial intelligence. So far I've read some of Kurzweil and am now reading this. Would be great to have another perspective.
>>9096486
my diary desu
This has some fiction but not much, and it compliments Superintelligence quite nicelt
>>9096486
Just read Bostrom's paper on the 'simulation hypothesis'. Thought-provoking stuff.
Is this any good?
How did you feel when you realized Marxism is still a relevant framework for socioeconomic analysis, and literally everyone spouting shit about Marx hasn't read anything?
>>9095421
lol marxism is stupid it's not correct because of pseduoscientific it has proved wrong see how the west is falling and were not in communism yet, also notice that mao and pot killed 9 billion people together with stalin, equality simply isnt true theres a differnet between women and men and between whites and blacks that only the redpill can articulate in a coherent and sensible way, there is simply nothing called class, we must interpret everything through the lens of identity politics, especially white identitarian one
Frustrated with how stupid 4chan is.
>>9095421
It's not relevant. If it were there would be no need to peddle it under the guise of special snowflakeisms like queer """"""theory""""". Total Accelerationism is the wave of the future.