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I hate fags - God
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>>9125456
faulkner is a hack
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What's the context, faget?

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OH MY GOD
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>The love of women is more beautiful than all the loves we can experience, and even you would think so, Kleon, if your soul were truly amorous; but you only dream of vanities.
>You waste your nights in cherishing these youths, who have no true perception of our worth. Just look at them! How ugly they all are! Compare their round heads to our heavy hair; seek our white breasts upon their hardened chests.
>Beside their narrow flanks, take note of our luxuriant haunches, an ample couch, especially hollowed for the lover's use. Say finally what other human lips, if not the ones that they would like to have, can so exalt the pleasures?
>You are ill, oh Kleon! but a girl can make you well. Go seek out young Satyra, the daughter of my neighbor Gorgo. Her croup is a rose in the sunlight, and she'll not refuse you the pleasure that she herself prefers.
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>I shall kiss from end to end the long black wings spreading from your neck, oh, gentle bird, captive dove whose heart throbs wild beneath my hand!
>I shall take your mouth into my mouth as the child takes its mother's breast. Tremble! for the kiss sinks deep and should suffice for love.
>I shall trail my light tongue along your arms and round your neck, and I shall drag the long drawn kiss of my nails along your tender sides.
>Hear roaring in your ear all the murmur of the sea. . . Mnasidika! the expression of your eyes makes me ill. I'll clasp within my kiss your lids which burn as warmly as your lips.
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>Ho! by the two goddesses, who is the brute who put his foot upon my dress? --One who loves you. --He's a blockhead. --I was clumsy, pardon me.
>The idiot! my yellow dress is all torn up the back, and if I walk the streets like this they'll take me for a wretched girl who serves inverted Venus.
>--Won't you stop? --I think he still is speaking to me! --Are you going to leave me when you are so angry? . . . you will not answer? Alas! I dare not say another word.
>--I surely must go home to change my dress. --And mayn't I come with you? --Who is your father? --He's the rich ship--owner, Nikias. --You have lovely eyes, I pardon you.

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what are the best books in the radical thinkers series? I already own Minima Moralia and Althusser's For Marx

was thinking of getting virilio's the information bomb because the topic interests me but i'd rather get suggestions
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>>9125430
>best books
>on how to destroy whiteness and Western civilization

Mc-fucking-Kill yourself
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>>9125436
>thinking whiteness and western civ is ok in 2017

uh....... problematic much, lmao xD
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Are there any good rebuttals to "you can't kno nuthin you can't know nuthin?"

Bertrand Russel's remark that Radical Skepticism is "logically impeccable" but ultimately impossible to know seems correct to me, but it doesn't completely satisfy me
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>>9125414
tell them to take the redpill
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>>9125414
Om.
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>"you can't know nothin'"
>How do you know that?

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I haven't read a book in over a year and that was 1984. what is some essential book kino
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Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, a personal favorite and I wouldn't read any books if I were you before you oil your mental gears with a masterpiece.
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>>9125342
Schopenhauer's 'On Women'
Mein Kampf
The Bell Curve
Gulag Archipilago
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>>9125348
I'll decode this for you:
I like to be edgy and pretend like i'm a white nationalist, but I don't wanna seem utterly barbarically retarded to my friends so I googled a few books and read their footnotes to support my world views. My greatest fear is when someone questions me deeply on them.

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Will the dawn of the ubermensch ever come?
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It is always darkest before the dawn.

The Ubermesch shall rise again.
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>>9125298
I am The Ubermensch
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>>9125431
>posting on 4chan
You still have a long way to go, pal

What is it about critical theory and post modernism that upsets young white men so much?
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>>9125230
it's used as a weapon against our interests
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>>9125230
I don't feel like giving an actual answer. Post feet pics.
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>>9125230
i'd give you an answer but i don't know what those words mean

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What do you think of this?
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>>9125211
Whats your way, shape, and form?
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>>9125201
I think Rousseau has some good points about the absurdity of some societal norms, but also think Voltaire has some fair criticisms of Rousseau's overall philosophy that the "natural" state is always superior.
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>>9125211
whites are an ethnic minority dumb american

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Why do so many people use the fact that they are smart as an excuse for being ugly, when so many people are both smart and attractive?

Pic related.
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>>9125160
Ugly people are gross and should leave /lit/ and stay on /r9k/ with the rest of the inferior scum
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>>9125160
why the fuck does it matter
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>>9125183
This. The really important philosophers like Wittgenstein didn't give a fuck about how attractive they were.

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So, is this really banned in USA and EU?
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>>9125145
solyenitSHIT is an atlanticist shill and a fake patriot, Stalin was actually a hero for the soviet people and the rightful orthodox tsar of Russia
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>>9125153

kek
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No.

As you may see, your edition is the German one, published in 2002/2003. You can buy it used here: https://www.amazon.de/Zweihundert-Jahre-zusammen-Juden-Sowjetunion/dp/377662356X
There has been no second edition.


But you would know that since it's in the Wikipedia article, so what's the point of this thread? Just /pol/bait? If so it's pretty lame.

There is no full English translation just as for most of Solschenizyn's later works, don't know whether that's to being 'politically incorrect', due to its numerous factual errors, due to there being no market for it, or due to just no interest, I don't know.

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Well, /lit/? Is he right?
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>>9125125
holy fuck epic thread

praise lord Kek!!!
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trumpmodernism is the way forward

>It's fake philosophy, folks. It's all fake. CNN, Fox, the College de France...all fake philosophy. Very sad. People ask me, they say, Mr. President - well, now, of course, they call me Mr. President, they have to, but they didn't always - they say to me, Mr. President, how is it that a signifier could be removed from a signified? And I say, honestly, I don't know. Ask Hillary Clinton. Poststructuralism is a disaster, folks. A total disaster.

>To the millions of people - hardworking Americans - I want you to know that we are going to begin a new era of representation. It's going to be a whole new era. Marx, Freud, Derrida - my God, Derrida - these are low-energy thinkers. Very low energy.

>I want you to say it with me: neo-Aristotelian pragmatism. I'm going to make this very clear. I'm always very clear, of course. But this in particular. No signs, no capital, no unconscious. We're getting rid of all of it.

>We're going to be doing some great things with philosophy in the very near future. Big things, let me tell you. Where did it go? Where did philosophy go? I'll tell you where it went. It went to China, and it went to France, and it went to Germany...it went all over the place. And it's time we started bringing it back to the United States of America. We need to protect and secure our intellectual borders against radical European deconstructionist terrorism. And we're going to do that, folks. We're going to do that.
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who?

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Just finished this. Thought it was pretty good. The 10 or 15 pages where Rabbit returns home thinking that he's turned over a new leaf, and things just very gradually deteriorate to pure despair in his mind are amazing.

Any other thoughts on Updike in general, or recommendations for what to read next (besides Rabbit Redux)?
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You're not my type of reader I if you want more of that. Updike, at least here, is regarded as a very talented writer who isn't worth reading. The limited scope and epetition of his work is not appealing to me.
If you enjoy it you can make it through a large part of his oeuvre a happy camper. It's funny that I'm not sure who to suggest aside from Updike - he's probably the best at what he does. Maybe someone like Roth, though I'd be surprised if you hadn't taken a trip through his work yet. Try Sabbath's Theater if not.
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>>9125065
Updike is great, I think Rabbit, Run has one of the best endings of any book I've read in a long time. He plays along with notions of the American dream "catching up" with contemporary life and an write about boobs in about a hundred lively different ways
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>>9125114
Be quiet. Reading the Rabbit Tetralogy and being awed by the prose but ultimately cynical about his moral value is a wonderful experience everyone should have.

Anyway, The Centaur is his loveliest prose work IMO, and was apparently Nabokov's favorite. The rest of The Rabbit Tetralogy is a must-read, you might hate Rabbit, all the characters, and perhaps Updike himself by the end of it, but the prose is mind-blowingly gorgeous, like out of this world.

Yes, Updike is a bit trite. If every book he'd written after Rabbit, Run was completely different, wasn't the same irritatingly chauvinistic soap-opera bullshit, I might retrospectively hold a better view of it. It stands well by itself, but once you keep reading Updike and realize it's the same thing over and over again, the same suburban chauvinists he describes, that's when it gets annoying.

But the style! Holy shit, the style! Get your hand on The Centaur, it starts out clumsily but then goes on to have the best prose of the 20th century. He wasted his talents but he might inspire better writers to come, hopefully.

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Ok, /Lit/ I am trying to figure out the meaning of life and I need your help. I am trying to familiarize myself with Philosophy but it's a large subject and I don't know how to approach it. I recently completed Will Durant's story of Philosophy which game me some idea but I am still confused. The Greeks seems like the default answer but they are so damned old and senile that I would like to save some time start little late in the game. I have read a bit of Neichze and a bit of Schopenhauer but I feel like I am getting bit ahead of myself. What would be the ideal and efficient way of approaching this subject. What chronology of authors would you suggest ?
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Start with Aurelius, always start with Aurelius.
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Start with the greeks
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>tfw no one starts with the Romans

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"No man ever wetted clay and then left it, as if there would be bricks by chance and fortune." - Plutarch

Is this not but pseudo intellectualism?
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>>9125051
No, it has a deeper meaning of finishing work and accomplishment.
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>>9125051
No retard it was a quote on building houses
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>>9125080
Hurr durr, nobodies ever wetted clay and did nothing with it because it's fucking retarded. No need to make a pseudo intellectual up your ass quote about it, and the morons who post it on Facebook are even more stupid.

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It is difficult for me to fathom why so many people spend so much time and money on reading books. Are there not more efficient and convenient means of entertainment and education than consuming large books?
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>>9125030
Try reading progressively longer short stories, or if you find reading completely boring, then don't read. Why are you asking /lit/ on how not to read?
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Good one, go tell /a/ that their plot lines are too dense.
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>>9125030
>Are there not more efficient and convenient means of entertainment and education
It's extremely convenient and easy. Also, this isn't the right fucking question.
It's actually amazing to me you would post something so stupid.
nice cat though

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