How will American literature fare in the 21st century?
damn id like to pledge allegiance to that
>>9160597
The literary establishment will continue peddling non-white interests to the reading audience (predominantly white women) until the readers' interests and the establishment's interests become so disconnected that not a single person reads a book any more.
It will become putty in my masterful hands
What does /lit/ know about Gothic literature (dracula etc) and what would you recommend to someone interested in the setting?
I like knights, monsters etc but id rather not read typical high fantasy
I don't know the original novel by Lewis, but this one is stunning.
start with Edgar Allan Poe. his Masque of Red Death, Fall of The House of Usher and a lot of his other works are prime examples of gothic literature.
there's also Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. i personally think it's a boring and shite book, but a lot of its tropes are cornerstones of the genre, so it might be interesting in an analytical way.
>>9160430
Vathek
Guys I need this book, is anybody happen to have it and able to send to me, or can help to find it? I need it so badly :(
Watson, G. J. (1979). Irish identity and the literary revival: Synge, Yeats, Joyce and O'Casey.
Do you go to a university? Just get it through inter-library loan
lrn 2 research
>>9160065
ok. ok. wow. just... ok. yeah i totally have it, it's on its way in the mail, it'll be there by wednesday
https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&an=&tn=&kn=&isbn=0813208106
also
>not posting the isbn
Post your oc, ask questions, discuss poems, give tipps.
>what is your opinion on hungarian poetry?
>>9160057
Hungarian poetry best poetry. Translations are lacking, pretty shit.
My mainstream top 3:
József Attila
Radnóti
Ady
>>9160057
How do i get into poetry /lit/ ?
give me some good ones that are pleb friendly
>>9160253
If you are English, start with modern poems and slowly work yourself down to shakespeare and keats.
You really have to read a lot of shit to get the hang of it. Finding rhyming words is easy, making a poems is not.
Just picked this book up /lit/, what can I expect? Will I make it through?
>>9159994
>he fell for the objectivist meme
we get it, you're an ancap, doesn't mean you have to force yourself to read absolute garbage just because it aligns with your views
>>9159994
I mean there are some parts that aren't that bad, the overall story is like ancap wish fulfillment, but I don't dislike every single scene in the book.
that's literally the second most popular book in dumbfuckistan after bible why are you creating another retarded fucking thread instead of spending 30 seconds googling cockgobbling piece of shit a good thread died because of your stupidity fuck off to /r/books and die you handicapped cretin
Can anyone explain how one would think that this girl is praying ?
In french class we are tought that she is praying , but i struggle to see how one would interpret that.
She's praying the prayer of Zeg Wat Doe Jij In Mijn Badkamer Rot Eens Op Jij Schavuit
>>9159950
what ?
>>9160572
He's trying to fool you with Dutch, don't mind my fellow countryman.
Does anyone know if there's a non-fiction book that focuses exclusively on the pirate Madame Ching that isn't basically a ten page essay?
Com'on /lit/, you fucks. Aren't you always going on about non-fiction or bust? Doesn't anybody know anything? Please?
I've already looked for hours, and I can't find anything decent- what I do find has poor ratings and are barely a hundred pages long (multiple are only 10 or 12 pages long).
I asked last night, and the thread died without a single reply. There has to be something decent somewhere.
>>9159846
Why wouldn't you ask on /his/?
>>9159846
No idea, but there's a short story by Borges
"What if you could manipulate people to do whatever you wanted? What comes first a blowjob from a supermodel or suicide?
It's life or death. I choose life"
Does this make sense or am I writing gibberish?
>>9159641
I can't 'make sense' of it if you mean following the logic, but I can understand it if I assume a context like 'the speaker is a pretentious idiot'.
>>9159641
>guy has godlike power
>second thing he thinks of is suicide
whaddya a pleb?
>>9159641
Is the point supposed to be that the speaker (like everyone) can't truly control himself due to the reality of primal urges and experience, and that such control would negate the need for it being that life would therefore become meaningless?
What are some books that intellectually argue FOR hatred and contempt?
>>9159446
your parent's diaries desu
>>9159446
That is the ideal male body, if you disagree you're a moralistic closet gay.
My twisted world
Peter Sotos' entire body of work
Otto and Schoppy
Lacan's Ecrits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iagUmxfdj0E
I'm unable to read a book without rereading every other line. I think it's either anxiety or inability to focus. Anyone else know this feel? Can someone please give me some tips? It's destroying reading for me.
>>9158979
You have AIDS.
I don't know, nigga, use your finger or something.
Underline the words as you read them.
Okay /lit/, let's settle this once and for all. We live in a simulated universe as evidenced by the fine-tuned constants and the delayed double split experiment. Furthermore, the body you inhabit is simply your avatar whose psyche is the only connection to the *real* you. We don't know what the reality frame outside of this one is like, but we know something about consciousness and that is, that it is split into conscious and unconscious elements. Your awareness is simply your avatar's active goals and affects. Intention and meaning lies in the unconscious which is further split into personal and collective. Now, the personal unconscious of your avatar is the direct link to the *real* you, outside of this simulated environment. It's what the *real* you is thinking about and intends to do in this virtual reality through the avatar. The collective unconscious on the other hand, is simply the exchanges and conversations all the *real* beings are having outside of this reality frame. That means, that my *real* wife and the *real* I are talking outside of here, but what we talk about actually has an effect in aggregate. This is where the idea comes from, that all tribes have underlying shared symbols that are smiliar. No other theory makes use of physics and psychology as well as this one. It's the only one that bridges phenomena and noumena.
>>9158902
There is no definitive evidence for the Matrix Theory
>>9158904
There isn't definitive evidence for a lot of theories out there. I'm by no means a scientist, but from what I've read and looked up, to explain reality based on my paragraph isn't really farfetched. Reality as it is, clearly consists of physical matter and mental representations, of which the latter is much more difficult to "prove" through a materialistic method in science. But even there, due to the measurement problem, scientists are hitting a wall.
>>9158941
>scientists are hitting a wall
You have no idea about the latest current edge theories or evidence
>I can't read e-books because I love the smell of real books xD
>>9158881
>tfw to intelligent for kindle
I cant because I like turning pages and watching the left side grow larger as i read too much. Also the feel when you get to the last page and turn beyond it into the afterword/ little blank pages then the back. Seratonin surges and I feel like I just finished a journey. Scrolling through a list of pages just doesn't feel the same. Plus physical copies in my possession can be shared off the desk, displayed on a shelf, the cover is always viewable, and if my computer fucks up i don't have to have a backup. Youd have to burn it to destroy it.
>>9159445
>I'm a fucking dumbass
You're making excuses. of all the things you said, the only thing you don't experience from an e-book is the physically turning the page. Every single fuckin' ebook you pirate you can copy as many times as you want, including the additional file, and if you bought it off amazon, you can just redownload it as many times as you want.
Just say you like physical books better, you twat.
I'm fascinated by the world and I want to learn as much about it as I can. Art, philosophy, politics, economics, social movements.. you name it.
However, I'm daunted by the sheer number of subjects to study, works to read, and authorial biases to consider. Specialization, not generalization, rules the day, and that's fine, but I want to learn about everything.
How does one do that?
I've had some ideas. I fantasize about launching ambitious reading projects, like methodically reading Bloom's canon or the St. John's syllabus, but I fear that I would never reach the end, which would be frustrating because I'm impatient to learn about the contemporary world. I also consider using Wikipedia to read summaries of major ideas, events, and movements, but even that project might become a frustrating mess without a good enough plan. Then there's the idea of creating my own syllabus of survey texts--an idea that I like--but I've struggled to identify the appropriate texts (although I did just read Ancient Greece: A Political, Social, and Cultural History which was pretty apt). None of these approaches seem quite right.
Maybe I should just spurn chronology and context and dive into interesting subjects with reckless abandon?
Anyway, I'm very curious if there are other people here that have tried or are trying to self-teach themselves about the world and the forces that shape it. What's worked for your? What hasn't? Do you have any general advice about this kind of life-long learning project, or specifically how to balance breadth and depth? Specific recommendations of readings lists, online courses, or individual texts or authors?
I welcome your insights!
>>9158646
>How does one do that?
>What's worked for your?
>>9158658
Well.. ok then.
>>9158646
A year a go I started seriously reading, and while I've come a long way and am very happy with my progress I still have a long way to do. There's nothing you can do but read, start immediately and don't stop until you're dead. You'll never understand everything as deeply as you want to, but such is life. It's incredibly rewarding to study something you're passionate about, but you absolutely need the dedication. You'll get discouraged at times, and your pace may slow to an agonizing pace, but you just have to go on.
I've found it very helpful to read as comprehensively as I can. I may not be as far as I could be if I had skipped a few cursory works, but I have a much better understanding than if I just flew ahead. You really should start with the greeks, which contain some of the earliest extant works of the western canon and are the foundations of western society. Then just continue chronologically to the romans, medieval period, renaissance, and modernity. You can obviously slip in some modern books in your reading from the get go, and you should intersperse lighter works among the heavier one.
Good luck OP, but I can't emphasize how much you need to dedicate yourself
Just finished the stranger. Really resonated with me. I really feel as if i can relate to Meursault very well. Unable to understand normals. Just floating about life unable to say no to my friends and family. Terrible at conversation. I've learned to emphathize a lot better as I've gotten older, but I still have a lot of work to do. The underlying 'enjoy life' theme really hit me hard. How can spur a change in myself and not be so fucking boring and absentminded all the time?
le normals xDDDDDDDDDDDD fuck off.
>>9158627
this.
Well shit. No pointers or anything? Just go die in a ditch?
What are some soul-destroying novels?
I feel like Louis-Ferdinand Céline his "Journey to the end of Night" really hit me hard. A bit too hard. I haven't been the same ever since. He seriously blasted my whole outlook on the world with that book.
You sound like a pussy.
>>9158590
I must agree with >>9158664
Journey is bleak and won't do shit with you if you already have life experience.
It just take a good years living in society to realize how shit things are.
I guess a soul-destroying novel to recommend would be Jude the Obscure, it deals with what today is called meritocracy and the faults on the academy and superior education and the tragedy of the sexes.
From these points only the last one can be realized by yourself without any help, but the first ones you need to have lived in an university setting or in the contrast of poor and middle-class/high-class to fully grasp it, but the book manages to capture the sentiment really well.
>>9158590
Try Death on the Installment Plan