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Thomas Pynchon.

>>9161880

Homer

>>9161895
How deep? Like to where the poop is?

The hypersphere

Lolita. Also, "My diary" by Desu

>Tundra intensifies

TOC PART 1/2

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TITLE
COPYRIGHT
QUOTE
TOC


INTRODUCTION
YOUR FATHER
YOUR MOTHER
FAMILY TREE
LIFE
ADL'S
STABILITY
SELF-DESTRUCTION
WISDOM
ADVICE
MISTAKES
FREEDOM
THE WORLD
SOCIAL MEDIA
TECHNOLOGY
CAMPING
ALCOHOL
THE FUTURE
ADAM'S TIMELINE
ENEMIES
FREEDOM OF SPEECH
KINDNESS
SURVIVAL
SALESMANSHIP
HUNTING
SAILING
SOCIAL MEDIA
SJWS
NEVER DO THESE THINGS
MUSIC
RANDOM ADVICE
GAMES
BOOKS
JAIL
COURTS
POLICITAL CORRECTNESS
POLITICS
THE X-FILES
TERRORISM
PETS
SEXUALITY
WARS
"GENDERS"
A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE WORLD
THE RACES
EVOLUTION
INTELLIGENT DESIGN
AGING & CHANGE
DRIVING
DRUGS
WOMEN
DMT
HEALTH
SAFETY
NATURE
LOVE
DECEPTION DETECTION
RELIGIONS
THE HOLY BIBLE
THE QURAN
PSYCHOLOGY
CULT PSYCHOLOGY
PARA-PSYCHOLOGY

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PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE
PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS
NLP
AMERICA
SELF DEFENSE
ELECTRONICS
REPAIR MANUALS
GOD
FRIENDS
MOVIES
MSM
MUSIC
PUBLIC SPEAKING
WRITING
THE ARTS - HIERONYMUS BOSCH’S ‘GARDEN OF EARTHLY DELIGHTS’
CRYPTOGRAPHY
THE SHINING
SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES
WINNING A DEBATE
SECRET HISTORY
POSESSIONS
PARANORMAL
VILE VORTICES
KEY FIGURES
SCIENTIFIC FUTURE
CREATION SCIENCE
RADIOMETRIC POLONIUM HALOS
WHAT TO DO WHEN I'M DEAD
WORDS TO LIVE BY
I LOVE YOU SON
NOW THAT I'M DEAD
BIBLIOGRAPHY

This better be a joke. This is horrible.

>urbanomic
art-right pls go and stay go

>Chinese academics

I wonder how many Western professors were plagiarized to write this

Some of the table of contents does it make it look interesting. I just wish I could find it anywhere without buying it. Yale and Harvard libraries have it, and of course someone has it out for a year at either.

A lot of Chinese stuff seems to rest on the fact that "Chinese stuff" is inherently novel, so they just sort of skim over Heidegger proficiently enough and then say "now check out Taoism, man......." and it ends inconclusively. But this looks kind of neat. He does OOO stuff elsewhere and I'm not sure if that worries me or interests me. Again, lots of potential, but most people actually talking about OOO that I've seen are trendy assholes.

I'd read it and proselytize it if I liked it, but I'm not going to order it for $25 and cross my fingers unfortunately.

>>9161616
If you read Marcus Aurelius, Epictetus (both the Enchiridion and the Discourses), then all of Seneca, you'll be fine.

Also read "Philosophy of Chrysippus" by Josiah Gould since there's only fragments left of Chrysippus.

>>9161620
Stick to your Mein Kampf if you want, I asked about Stoicism

>>9161634
I don't think I explained myself very well. What I'm really after is a list of things that are similar to stoicism e.g. Viktor Frankl, Ernest Becker

>>9161547

Hello OP, I have a math degree, and I minored in philosophy. With regard to reading the tractatus closely (as in: actually grinding out the math-bits), I strongly recommend this wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_function

Which should partially be a review of things you say you've already learned, but what makes this particular wiki so good is that it contains pretty much all of the historical symbols for the various operators, and which you will encounter very differently in the literature, depending on what you training is/was, what text you used, and particular instances of which Wittgenstein himself uses. Mathematical logic/modern logic in general is young enough that notation still hasn't been standardized. Wittgenstein spends about half the little book developing uncontroversial ideas about two-valued (mathematical) logic, which he variously formulates with math-y bits (and which several of his contemporaries were getting up to at around the same time, as I understand it). This part is absolutely clear to me, and is undeniable. It is either the "meat" of the text, or its window-dressing, depending on your point of view. But you WILL be in a better position to understand the "concrete math stuff" if you do exercises to brush up, ask your own questions, and do a good bit of sketching/writing/doodling (write down truth tables, ask yourself why they work the way that they do, and importantly, ask yourself /how many different various situations/ might crop up with n atomic proposition "p, q, r,..." etc. The above wiki goes directly to this, which in turn goes directly to reading the "math" side of the Tractatus.

Other math bits that you should brush up on (if need be) include sigma notation, powers of two, and combinations (the "choose" function, n choose k, etc). These make appearances in the book as well: hint: Pascal's triangle is extremely relevant here. Exercise: what did the anon mean by this: where do powers of 2 and "combinations" show up in Pascal's triangle?

The part which is more amenable to disagreement/discussion/interpretation are the other more opaque/mystical bits, where Wittgenstein verbalizes his primitive thoughts which eventually build up into the math-stuff. This includes certain of the early bits, and certainly the last few pages, where he seems (being careful, now) to change gears from what the bulk of the text had been about, a more technical inquiry, to get mystical: "whoops all I've done is to explain a bit about how things are, time to throw the ladder away", or something like that.

I understand that he hated Russell's intro; I invite someone to expand on exactly why, without any memeing; exactly what it was that Russell got wrong, etc.

>>9161547
>What is the best secondary resource to help me really understand the Tractatus?

Philosophical Investigations

>>9161547
If you have a degree in philosophy and find it that difficult then philosophy clearly isn't for you. Have a go at media studies instead.

>>9161191
>falling for the democracy meme
>falling for the human rights meme
Spooky, my liberal friend

>>9161202
I'm not liberal, my dude.
I believe in direct democracy and the right to life and all the rights that come with it (see: healthcare, housing, clothes, food, water).

Spooks are spooks. Being spooked is a negative to the self but you can put them to your service.
ie human rights are spooks but I benefit from the state being spooked by them and not torturing me with impunity.

>>9161150

Really? because I think I'm starting to not like third person

I don't think in third person I don't talk in third person its unnatural so why should I ever write in third person?

third person

i hate first person

i know im not the main character

>>9161150
Love second, as it is default in every RPG scenario.

It's Dreck.
r8 my haiku:
Sauerkraut Kartoffelbrei
Bomber Harris
Feuer frei

>>9160924
14/88

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>>9160924

>>9160813
Thats what I'm doing

you're just too dumb for philosophy

>>9160824
I'm aware of that but I still have hard time believing someone would be able to understand absolutely everything from that page without previous philosophy experience.

NO. Start with the trial of Socrates.

Nnnnnnyyyeeeuuooooooo.

Start wherever the fuck you want, retard, philosophy is not a precise science with a necessary body of fundamental knowledge.
Most of Plato is supremely boring.

what a pointless question, how can you judge a human activity by anything other than human standards

>>9160589
It's been bothering me latelly.

whenever I see a genius writing, I see it as a mere mortal, who is a skilled writer, but still don't see the fuzz about geniuses.

sure, they may be skilled, but they're mere mortals.

>>9160592
In writing, what matters is your experience. Read and write a lot and you'll get better. Even writers whose first book was a slam dunk success didn't publish literally the first thing they ever wrote.

it really is true

if most of what you came to believe is the result of just latching onto whatever you read, giving problems no independent thought of your own, you're not particularly smart

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>>9160383
>think for himself
>thinking that your thoughts aren't 100% from outside sources

>>9160383
maybe this makes sense, when you're not a writer, in which instance reading always represents an attention to your profession/vocation

if the reading isn't elsewhere directed, yeah, doing nothing else than it will degrade your mind

Yes but it's tough

>>9160315
Only if you're in the top 0.5% of sales, honestly.

Or you could write horrible niche erotica for freaks.

>>9160481
does this mean you need to be of extreme high quality or that 99.95% of books are simple trash?

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Somebody requested this
Somebody painted this
Somebody approved this
Somebody signed of on publishing this

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They do fantasy too

Their sf covers have such a consistent style you would think its all one big series
But no, its not. Although they are generic enough to make you think otherwise.

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>srs literture, pls nominate for Hugo or I'll have a tantrum