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>be me
>a sci-fi writer
>Speaking to some Serb friend
>I mention that the only book I read during my time at high school was Of Mice and Men cause it was compulsory for my English exam
>He laughs
>I insist what I previously stated
>He asks with some laughter still in his lungs, 'so you didn't read Shakespeare; or Ivanhoe at school?'
>'No, we watched the Romeo and Juliet film with Leonardo DiCaprio;' I said 'and then analysed the Mercutio/Tybalt confrontation scene as it was said to be on our exam.'

There was a pause after his laughter died and then he sent me this. All I did in English was write pretend newspaper article and persuasive letters.

So my question is...well, the title of this thread. I'm English btw
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Just asked what my girlfriend read while at school; she said of mice and men as well but she also read The Outsiders.
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most better known shakespeare works
bible
epic of gilgamesh
beowulf
great gatsby
homer
select other greeks
if you took latin at my school you read virgil and stuff like such as
in spanish we read stuff like marquez and borges (en español)
1974 brave new world
catch22 slaughterhousefive
i dunno lots of books
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>>9175226
Interesting topic OP. Frenchfag here, let's try to remember

Molière, Dom Juan
Molière, Tartuffe
Molière, Les précieuses ridicules
Corneille, Le Cid (not so sure)

Zola, Au bonheur des dames
Balzac, La recherche de l'absolu
Kafka, La métamorphose
Flaubert, Trois contes

E.M. Remarque, A l'ouest rien de nouveau (history class)

Yeah we study a lot of theatre, I guess it's because it's easier to read when you're 13-14

Long live Serbia.

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Welp.
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Note also the comma.
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Those type of covers, softbacks or what they're called, will go to fucking shit if you keep them vertical instead of horizontal family
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Why does one say Ludovico and not the other ? Fuck them. It's the kind of detail that would've made me resell one volume.

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How do I into plot? I feel like I can write pretty well and come up with interesting characters, but when it comes to actually making things happen I'm at a loss.
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Plot is a spook. Just scratch together 200k words stream of consciousness and /lit/ will come all over itself.
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>>9175118
Plots come up with themselves when you write coherent and cohesive scenes
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>>9175118
story telling is a science. It follows a very obvious and identifiable structure. Please do not confuse structure with formula. We are not talking about a formula(where everything is the exact goddam same), we are talking about a paradigm(a general layout).

That's the key: Paradigm, a general layout. with a formula for a tshirt, it would be the same color and same size no matter what. But with the paradigm of a tshirt, all it states is what a tshirt is made of, what its parts are. A shirt and two sleeves.

Within the paradigm, you can have long shirts, short shirts, string shirts that you see in gay bars, all with different colors and various lengths of sleeves.

As such, same with a story. You hear pretentious fucks trying to "subvert the typical narritave" and whatever, but they're pretentious cucks who dont know what they're doing ,so they pretend their ignorance is in fact understanding, an understanding that has transcended. But it's not and they are total fags.

So what is the structure of a narrative? What is the PARADIGM of a plot?

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Does anyone know of any fictional books written from the perspective a sociopath? And how they deal with life and people while suffering from a personality disorder?

Pic unrealated
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>>9175044
Bill Clinton - My Life
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>>9175044
Art of the Deal - President Donald Trump.
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>>9175044
Confessions of a Mask by Mishima is kinda what you are looking for

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>4215 pages
Who the fuck does this asshole think he is?
Thats 4 bibles right there, convince me that this shit is even remotely worth it
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>>9175008

It's not worth it. Just do the math. For the time it takes to read that book, you could read maybe 10 other books. Would you rather read more or less?
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>>9175019
qualité > quantité
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It's a life changer, but not if you immediately find it stupid to state that "true life is literature"

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>He reads a book once.
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>he hasn't read his favorite book at least 5 times
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>>9174940
you saved this .gif as a .jpg you fucking retard
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>tfw I don't re-read books because I want to increase my goodreads list

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I am trying to directly translate a Jefferson quote to Latin.

"It is his affair not mine, if he prefers error."

Google translate kind of appears to be screwing it up (see pic) and sadly I am not very good with Latin myself. The best I have done on my own is "id est negotium non est meum, si voluerit erratum"

I am grateful for any thoughts on the matter.
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That sounds clunky in English.
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>That sounds clunky in English.


True enough, and if it were my quote, I could likely fix that. As it is, my best effort above is based on using "chooses" instead of "prefers". Seems like if I stray too much further it is no longer a quote but a goofy Latin sentence (fragment?) inspired by a quote.
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Try this, "magnum aliquem i gallinam et jam seni?"

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Dear Miss Kitty,
I know you're a really fuckable petite sex magnet, but let's put that out of the way for a while and focus on the issue at hand, the point being that there is already plenty of common masturbation material out there, but only one you that I know of, and it seems that what I need and crave the most right now is the one-of-a-kind kinky female mind encased in your funny sex addled brain.
And your blunt honesty.
Then, please would you be so kind as to somehow get in touch with me in order to partake in some sort of bout of creative writting? That would be so rad.

tl;dr i want my qt3.14 /lit/ waifu back
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this post is not very good
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>>9174895
sorry about that
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>>9174895
btw, how would you go about it?

Barnes and Noble closed, the other two are University book stores with just class books.

Amazon completely owns this state now.
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my town with a popn of about 100k has at least 4 dedicated bookshops that I can think of.
One chain, one independent, one used bookshop and one charity owned bookshop.
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>>9174850
I bet there are a lot of second hand book shops that have a better selection that B&N could ever have.
Just gotta get over it that the pages might be yellow and corners bent.

>Want to move to SC one day
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>>9174850
>the other two are University book stores with just class books.

I'm sure the bookstore, if they are like the ones in universities I have been to sell other books at greatly inflated prices.

Also

>South Carolina
>South
>reading
>learning
>edumaction

The state consists of the descendants of slaves and hillbillies, with anybody with any intelligence moving some smart (i.e. anywhere else in the Great Republic except West Virginia, for example).

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Trying to find the best single quote that sums up the idea behind Romanticism. I want something succinct, within period would be even better. For example:

>Late-stage German Romanticism emphasized the tension between the daily world and the irrational and supernatural projections of creative genius.

Something like that. Been combing through Beethoven's letters and such but no luck so far.

Thoughts? Help? I know there's a difference between each nations romanticism, and even between early and late, but a broad sort of gut punch would be best.
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>>9174840
The glorification and exaltation of the singular spirits subjective, objective, and creative self
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wiki-
Romanticism was characterized by its emphasis on emotion and individualism as well as glorification of all the past and nature, preferring the medieval rather than the classical. It was partly a reaction to the Industrial Revolution,[1] the aristocratic social and political norms of the Age of Enlightenment, and the scientific rationalization of nature.[2] It was embodied most strongly in the visual arts, music, and literature, but had a major impact on historiography,[3] education,[4] and the natural sciences.[5] It had a significant and complex effect on politics, and while for much of the Romantic period it was associated with liberalism and radicalism, its long-term effect on the growth of nationalism was perhaps more significant.

The movement emphasized intense emotion as an authentic source of aesthetic experience, placing new emphasis on such emotions as apprehension, horror and terror, and awe—especially that experienced in confronting the new aesthetic categories of the sublimity and beauty of nature. It elevated folk art and ancient custom to something noble, but also spontaneity a desirable characteristic (as in the musical impromptu). In contrast to the Rationalism and Classicism of the Enlightenment, Romanticism revived medievalism[6] and elements of art and narrative perceived as authentically medieval in an attempt to escape population growth, early urban sprawl, and industrialism.

Although the movement was rooted in the German Sturm und Drang movement, which preferred intuition and emotion to the rationalism of the Enlightenment, the events and ideologies of the French Revolution were also proximate factors. Romanticism assigned a high value to the achievements of "heroic" individualists and artists, whose examples, it maintained, would raise the quality of society. It also promoted the individual imagination as a critical authority allowed of freedom from classical notions of form in art. There was a strong recourse to historical and natural inevitability, a Zeitgeist, in the representation of its ideas. In the second half of the 19th century, Realism was offered as a polar opposite to Romanticism.[7] The decline of Romanticism during this time was associated with multiple processes, including social and political changes and the spread of nationalism.[8]
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Byron: 'Alas, it is delusion all\ The future cheats us from afar\ Nor can we be what we recall\ Nor dare we think on what we are.'

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>One sometimes gets the impression that the mere words 'Socialism' and 'Communism' draw towards them with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex maniac, Quaker, 'Nature Cure' quack, pacifist and feminist in England...

What did he mean by this, /lit/?
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>>9174773
You know very well what it means. So why create this thread? What are you hoping to achieve exactly?
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>>9174773
Cucks will be with us always.
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>>9174773
It means "socialist and communist can be used as derogatory terms for anyone or anything you don't approve of". Look at burgers for successful application of that thought.

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What are some writers that use scientific imagery to convey deep emotions, instead of describing life in the most sterile way possible?
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>>9174746
j g ballard
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>>9174746
>scientific imagery
>deep

kek

kek

KEK!
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Musil and math-- close enough.

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Has Welsh ever done anything as good as this?
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>>9174725
>glorifying a bluepilled degenerate liberal lifestyle
>good

This is a +18 website, sweety
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literally a one trick pony. It's not bad but way over-hyped. I quite liked glue.

He said in an interview that he would never revisit trainspotting after porno as he felt he needs to develop as a writer ..... then he released scagboys.

>>9174728
if you don't like a thread you can hide it or ignore it. Can you even tie your own shoelaces ?

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Recommended reading before tackling pic related?
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A dictionary
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Dubliners, Portrait, The Bible, The Odyssey, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Hamlet.
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Every single thing written between the Iliad and Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man.

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Anyone read dos Passos' USA Trilogy? Is it any good? Seems like it was a big influence on Pynchon's Against the Day.
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I have it, haven't gotten to it yet though. I couldn't resist a 1300+ pg modernist novel. I'll probably never read it, heard it wasn't that great. I read the Stud Lonigan trilogy last summer, which it is often compared to because they are both examples of early 20th century American naturalism, and it turned out to be a huge waste of time.
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I remember Vollmann comparing it to "The Tale of Genji", but I haven't read either.
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I've only read The 42nd Parallel so far but I'd definitely recommend it if you're a fan of modernism OP. There is nothing spectacular or groundbreaking about Dos Passos' prose/narrative presentation but it's highly entertaining and I'd say that every main character is fairly compelling. I'm looking forward to 1919, which I'll probably read in a few months

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