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So, I've just finished the French canon of the 19th century (with a bit of English canon like Dickens and Shelley) and I'm planning on continuing with this novel and possibly Manzoni after it. Anyone knows this guy? His magnum opus is quite massive. Also, any suggestion on other Italian authors from the same period?
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>>9174372
Confessions of an Italian
"I must apologize, but I do hate spaghetti."
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>>9174531
kek
It's pretty deeper than that though
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>>9174531
Woah, haha. Are you me? Came here to post this. Have an upboat, you rascal you.

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Dennis Lehane appreciation thread anyone ?

Are "The Given Day" and "World Gone By" as good as "Live By Night' ? I really enjoyed Live By Night, around the middle of the novel I thought "now it's getting boring" and then after a few pages it became even better than the first half.

Any review of "The Drop" and/or "Since We Fell" ?

Apart from these ones that I don't know, I've enjoyed everything by him. Even "Coronado" was nice. And the Kenzie and Gennaro series really rocks, it's always darker than you expect.
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So everybody's claiming to read the Western Cannon or is supposed to "start with the Greek", but nobody reads simple crime novels ? You're all pretending.
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>>9174014
I've been putting off watching Mystic River and Gone Baby Gone because I want to read his stuff.

What's considered his best?
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He wrote for The Wire which is pretty cool. I'd be willing to try one of his novels out. Haven't read much crime fiction other than Ellroy though. Where2start with him?

What do foreigners think of this book? I wonder how fo you get Dostoevski's words.
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>dosto with foreword by a jew
All of my keks.
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>>9173966
Probably some immigrant (((expert))) on Russian culture.

Does anyone else dislike Hemingway's terse writing style? I found it particularly appalling in A Farewell to Arms.
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>>9173864
I dropped 'A Farewell to Arms' when I was a little brainlet, because I fucking hated his style.

I've since gone on only to read 'Old Man and the Sea' by him, but even that didn't impress me stylistically.

I still maintain that OMatS is a great novel that could have been written better by any other (great) author.
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>>9173864
The first Hemingway I read was 'The Sun Also Rises,' and I found it boring for the majority of it until I got to the bullfighting scene. At that point I kind of conceded that perhaps Hemingway wasn't a waste.

Then I read For Whom the Bell Tolls and although sometimes it was challenging to stick with it, it genuinely moved me, almost to tears at some points and I no longer thing Hemingway is overrated.

My high school English teacher hated him too. I feel like Hemingway is the first step to not being a plebian brainlet. Once I realized my initial opinion of him was wrong, it made me more open to "challenging" stuff that seems inaccessible at first (of course now, calling Hemingway inaccessible feels ridiculous).

Have't read 'A Farewell to Arms' yet but I'm looking forward to reading it soon.
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Hemingway's prose is lean and masculine, like a penis. A fantastic penis, as strong as a giant marlin, yet as delicate as a flower wrapped in silk. What a grand, grand penis.

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Fuck

Help me /lit/

I'm trying to remember a book

there was some lady in Britain countryside that did some praying after setting up her cool house with cool garden. |Was visited by some dude who had ascended in a past life, rafel or something.
Zooms her out using astral related shenanigains to check out the cosmos.
Told her all about cells and atoms and shit, shrunk her down to check out the human body and how it works(Of a young doctor that was staying in her house)before we were even using microscopes or some shit.


Please help.
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>>9173787
just for posting that stupid qing picture i'm not telling
i'm also not telling you because i don't know
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>>9174288
Fuck

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How do I stop feeling guilty about not working non stop? Apart from things all humans do plus going to the gym, I feel guilty about any of my habits. And I have no goals.

I want to read books but I feel guilty about reading a set number of pages a day. I am worried about being called a pleb for not reading ten trillion boring Western canon novels. I feel like an ADD pleb for rarely reading more than 60 pages at a time. I hate that I'm more likely to put a book down at the end of a chapter.

Similarly for working. I know I could always be working to become better off. I know that people who talk about taking breaks are just lying to themselves. I feel bad for not having the willpower necessary to work non stop on one thing for 10 hours. If I work on one thing then I miss the big picture. If I work on many things I am a dilettante who doesn't achieve anything.

And the funny thing is that I'm a Stirnerite. When you stay unspooked then everyone else's belief system feels like a personal attack. Fuck these people who say that X is so important. X is always working hard / enjoying yourself / focusing on one thing / focusing on many things / reading history / classics / philosophy / other shit.

The awful thing is that I know everyone else is a fraud. That NFL player who everyone loves and says is hardworking has never read a book. That mathematics professor known as a genius is a disgusting dyel. That literary figure who goes on about Shakespeare being a god doesn't know any maths or science greater than an 18 year old yet claims to be worldly. That billionaire who goes on about humanity's big issues does nothing but write checks for people who make social media apps.
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Jesus christ chill out.
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> I'm a Stirnerite
You sure sound spooked to me. Not everyone has the willpower to be a master of everything. Most people can't even reach mastery in one thing.

>I have no goals
You clearly do. You want to be the best at everything and you want to be superior to everyone else, without being judged by anyone.

>The awful thing is that I know everyone else is a fraud
No they're not. They just stuck with a thing they had an interest in. You're assigning value to people based on their achievements. That's pretty fucking spooky.

You sound neurotic as fuck.
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Why does that Pepe look like a vagina?

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Williams describes Archer Sloane as being "betrayed" and that he felt sad when the war was over. Does anyone get this? The war had a negative effect on Sloane but I don't understand why he felt betrayed or saddened by the war's ending.

Sorry if I had xplained it poorly.
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>democratic modifications

just poke the microprocessor already
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>>9173639
Well war is fun isn't it, Hemingway said that. Its addictive the intensity, a film like hurt locker with the guy back from war mincing through the supermarket, just totally out of his element, dunno I haven't read Stoner
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I don't know, but if you almost die for what you believe in, and then some suits up and go "Oh, yeah. The war's over, everybody go home," I can understand being a little upset.

I mean, what were you even fighting for, if it was that easy to stop?

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>it was a dog eat dog world, and she was the mailman
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>grandmother
>boss contributor

what a revealing batch
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>>9173625
You missed
>Caspere knew this
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>>9173754
your insinct suits my schedule

>upvoted

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Im looking for a book where the germans win WW2 from a Nazi perspective, but one where the protagonist doesn't trade his beliefs.i.e its from a Nazi point of view all the way through ?
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>>9173505
Mein Tagebuch desu.
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>>9173505
Fatherland
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>>9173505
my diary desu

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How do we relate this text to belonging. I have a feel that this concept was explored through the life of Paul as he moves to darwin, it being a scary place, but in what other ways does Peter Goldsworthy relate his character to the notion of belonging or not belonging?
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>HSC fag looking for help with Maestro
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>>9173472
hahaha you've got it spot on. but fr can u help, i really dont enjoy reading this and spent more time focusing on other books, so can u guys help me out on this one?

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Which authors indulge in the perverted, the depraved, the scatological? I have read Gass and Bataille thus far, who else should I go for?
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>>9173269
burroughs?
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>>9173269
Pinching and Bolano have got a few scenes. Ballard and Cenderas are quite good for it. Obviously the Grand Marquis, if you haven't yet.
Also /d/ and /aco/ can get a little out there
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>>9173269
Naked Lunch

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So was retconning Conan out of the Cthulhu mythos a good move or a bad one?
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>>9173195
literally, what?
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>>9173200
The original Conan stories made a few references to Lovecrafts works and Lovecraft did the same with Conan, arguably putting Conan in the Cthulhu Mythos, but recent rereleases of these stories have removed these references.
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>>9173224
Seriously? Who made those edits?

Trying to read more, after two weeks of reading, it seems I read at a speed of 104 wpm. Will I get faster? I have a tendency to fail in seeing the forest for the trees, so perhaps this is keeping me down. Or should i just not care? I'm enjoying my reading speed so far.

What are /lit/'s experiences with reading speed? Would appreciate knowing.

pic unrelated
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I read how I like and don't care about something so unimportant
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Honestly I've never wanted to read faster, except when it comes to certain authors. Economics is one of those fields which is full of people who talk for pages upon pages with nothing to actually say but a simple concept they could've just told me and provided a quick example for.

That being said, sometimes it's necessary. I find the most egregious offenders to be John Stuart Mill and Carl Menger.
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>>9173058
Just take it easy dude. No matter how much you read in your life, you'll never put a dent in the amount of good stuff there is to read, so just take your time and savor what you read.

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Any Henry Adams fans?

He seems very /lit/ but I never see him mentioned here
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>>9172218
I tried reading The Education, but only got through about a quarter of it. Pretty meandering and pointless. And from what I understand, if you read it all the way to the end, his philosophy is that nothing really matters much except scientific progress, and any education that doesn't prepare one for the coming changes brought by science is worthless.
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>>9173128
From what I understand, Adams has a similar theory of history as Spengler. They're both cultural conservatives
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>>9172218
Big time. MSM&C and the Education twice overthe years. And the Jefferson phase of his history. Read the first initially in a medieval history class (some of the other texts- The Name of the Rose, The Cult of the Saints- Peter Brown- and The Sacred Canopy- Peter Berger) and have been a fan of his ever since. He's an edgy, nervous yet beautiful writer in the first two; supremely confident in the history. I'll get to the Adams on Adams (John) some time this year.

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What do ya think? This'll be a song.

I don't know but I've been told
apocalyptic dreams postponed
Can bring the killer to the throne
While all the activists get stoned
It's nothing new, but I suppose
The blood of breathless men has flowed
And stained the emperor's new clothes
My mouth it shouts and starts to foam
Again
My friend my friend

Body parts inside the square
And Revolution in the air
Please heed their dead despairing prayers
For all the blood of billionaires
To shower down while we prepare
To fall on autumn nights and stare
At holy horns and lowly mares
Don't dare promise only swear
Amen
my friend my friend

The eyes of passersby were glued
to an unrepentant prostitute
Who washed her hair each afternoon
With salty spit and cheap perfume
While men of greater magnitude
Who met her on the avenue
all severely misconstrued
Her solitary point of view
And said
My friend my friend

Murmuring voices through the wall
Spoke between sips of alcohol
About running away and leaving it all
To live life like a shopping mall
But they could hardly even crawl
So instead they sat in ancient halls
Pontificating on John Locke
Because you can’t kill what you can not
defend
my friend my friend

Call me what you want but I
Can hear these neon angels cry
For someone who can sympathized
With burning barns and friendly fire
But I can't come up any higher
These walls are tall and barbed with wire
Broken down my face perspires
When all is said and done it's time
to end
My friend my friend
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Bump for feedback
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Bump again
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It's fucking terrible, hope that helps

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