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>yfw all great writers lived interesting lives and that was the main ingredient to their success, not 'writing and reading a lot'
Reading books is a waste time if you want to succeed as a writer. Go out and experience life firsthand.
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go eat my dick and balls and manybe you can write with a hint of my talent
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>>9191921
One needs the stuff lit provides in one's head if the desire is to experience life as a writer. There's plenty of down time in even the most adventurous life for both reading and writing.. Does a painter who doesn't study (and love) painting paint well? Or is there such a thing as a musician who doesn't listen to music? Of course not. Writing, without reading, but expecting to be read (necessarily), is writing in bad faith. That said, Trump's 'written' two books, and will no doubt sign an enormous book deal whenever (if ever) he leaves office. So what do I know....
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>>9191921
I agree, but /lit/ surely won't. Oh well

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Is anyone here employed in the antiquarian book trade?
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>>9191911
god I wish I was
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>>9191911
It takes a bit more effort.
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>tfw not gay

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I just finished the one true masterpiece of literature the 21st century has produced. Where do I go from here? How can Western PoMo wank even compete?
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>>9191902
Hope you read the classics first.
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>>9191902
I don't seek cheap physical thrills. This is the only work of art that truly balances the carnal desperation and soul-wrenching desire for emotional connection in such a nuanced way since Bataille's Story of the Eye. It made me shed tears.
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>>9191902
>chink sade

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>read the top 25 sci fi books ever
>learn the tropes used
>make a new book inspired by it, using the most tropes of the genre in new ways
>get published

Is this plan good?
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No, you can't simply recycle what's been done before

There are works that recycle old space operas and lotr - they're shit.

You need to learn to write. You can recontextualise past concepts and ideas, but you ain't simply repeat.
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>>9191861

>No, you can't simply recycle what's been done before

many millionaire hacks the world over would laugh at you for saying this. of course you can. if you care more about money more than your art, that is.
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>>9191821
>>9191861
>>9191905
I must say I appreciate your efforts. Very meta.

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I'm gonna get lasik
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work those glasses anon
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>>9191782
lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc.
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>>9191782
look into relex-smile
research the best surgeons, results DO vary

theres a contingent of people holding out for better alternatives - there are a lot of sides such as poor night vision, floaters, dry eyes....

I'd get RELEX smile, but I want to be able to ride my bike at night + not be millions of people who missed out on some miracle cure all that is now off limits

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Is this trash even worth finishing? I've read the first 35 pages so far and every little piece of subtext is explained in most excruciating detail. Not to mention the cringy metaphors:
"her soul would rise to the surface of her body like a crew charging up from the bowels of a ship, spreading out over the deck, waving at
the sky and singing in jubilation."

Seriously, what?
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>>9191704
I don't particularly like Kundera, but that's a great metaphor-- PARTICULARLY because one can't help but wonder, odd, what kind of ship would that be? ... It's a puzzle, and not a difficult one: relief, elation- but a manic episode doomed to fail like the escapees are doomed to fail, sooner rather than later. When reading one makes these notations quickly, wordlessly.... This said, a minimal writer who nonetheless splashes his books with amazing color is Philip Roth. Or he's the first that comes to mind. The first female is Penelope Fitzgerald. If economy's sought, one could begin to seek it there.
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>>9191704
Sure, but don't exect to be blown away. It's good but not amazing.
I read it to my girlffriend during a camping trip. Was quite comfy.
>>9191906
>doomed to fail
How so?
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>>9191704

I dropped this book about 100 pages in. If I am meant to return eternally to the point in my lifetime where I open up this book, it ought to be as short as possible.

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Any well-written books about Television and the drug-like effects/influence it has over people?

Very interested to see how my mind has been poisoned.
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E Unibus Pluram is good
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Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD9pJzZ1XGI
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Amusing Ourselves To Death.

DUDE WEED LMAO
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The ending made me cry.
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>>9191605
He had a good life. He experienced love and safety.
Most people have bad lives. Worse than Stoner had I'd say.
This is pretty sad. Nothing can be done to change this.
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AYY WEED LMFAOOOOO

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What does /lit/ think of William H. Gass?
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>>9191497
He is underread and overposted.
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Only read In the Heart of the Heart of the Country which was excellent. The Pederson Kid is a 10/10 short story. He manages to pull visual beauty out of a landscape that is entirely snow, plot tension out of a 50 page story, and literary eloquence with in the linguistics confines of a narrator who is a young uneducated boy.
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The Tunnel is the best English language novel since Gravity's Rainbow. Extremely powerful, absolutely worth drowning in for a few days or a lifetime.

Also >>9191503

Why are dust jackets still a thing?

They slide around, they're distracting, you pretty much have to remove them to do any serious reading, and they only "protect" the book if it's sitting flat and you spill a drink on it on the side with the spine. Utterly useless.
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>>9191486
how does it feel to be in the spectrum
you remove them while reading and put it back.
is for dust you candy ass
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>>9191486
hahahaha
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It's a marketing thing. They exist because it's much cheaper to print a colorful jacket than to manufacture an intricate hardcover. If you want some actual dust protection get a slipcase.

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Ok, /lit/: what is the worst genre, and why is it romance?

My reasons:
Romance is an incredibly constraining genre, which is currently in its death throes. Romance authors have about one good idea every five years, which the rest of them clamp onto like sheep. Just look at Twilight - how many shitty ripoffs did that inspire? Then we get Hunger Games, an alright novel, but every fucking unoriginal Mary-Sue-writing cat lady latched on to "post-apocalyptic teen romance" as a genre, so we have 20 fucking billion of those flooding shelves every year.

Additional challenge: predict the next idiotic romance "spin."
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>>9191470
>genre
excuse me sir, this is a literature board not pleb central.
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>>9191470
Nowhere near as bad as sci-fi. People never shut the fuck up about the hitchikers guide to the galaxy. That bloated piece of convoluted trash.
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>>9191470
Fuck off. Romance is an amazing genre, where authors can focus in on the minutiae of the human mind and their characters without having to divert themselves with other things like fight scenes or making up technologies that don't make sense, or flashy magic and dragons and crap. When all an author has to worry about is the details of their characters and how they would and do interact, superior results are produced. Fact. Spreading yourself across multiple areas gives shitter results than exclusively paying attention to one idea. Fact. Go back to your macho-fantasy action novels filled with explosions and meaningless filler for characters.

What are essential books to learn about the media?
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Start with the Greeks.
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>>9191454
Start with the Canadian.

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How does /lit/ feel about italics? Is it unique only to the English language, or do other languages use italics, too? How important is it to literature?
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>>9191301
>i am a monolingual pleb
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>>9191305
>he isnt fluent in, at least, 6 different languages
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they have their place, although some people tend to <i>over-use</i> them. Frank Herbert, i'm looking at <i>you</i>.

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ITT we rewrite Fifty Shades of Grey and turn it into a literary masterpiece worth reading
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You first OP.
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i'm on #bookz and wondering if i should say fuck it and download this piece of shit :*( god help me

i can't... that would be betraying the years of adolescence spent on literotica and fanfiction.net
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I wrote my own sexy fanfic off of the universe in Pronetheus. That's being written with the premise of android/robots acquiring the function of sexual pleasure and with an unlimited capacity for physical pleasure. how would an artificial person treat humans, which are considered beneath them? (would it be bestiality in their case? lol)

It's not fifty shades of grey, but it's got anal.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12304678/1/Do-Androids-Dream-of-Electric-Caress

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>>9191221
it doesn't matter, it's a very simple book, not much can be lost in a shitty translation
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>er kann kein Deutsch in aktuellem Jahr
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>>9191221
>not knowing German
Cuckold

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