What books should every English major undergrad have read?
>>9203922
Beckett dated Joyce's schizo daughter and his refusal to marry her likely contributed to her breakdown
All of them.
>>9203932
She wouldn't have been so fucked in the head to begin with if she didn't have Jimbo for a father
How do you battle feelings of insuffienciency, depression and restlessness? What do you do? Do you simply acccept yourself as you are and get cozy in your little simple life? Do you aspire for greatness?
How have some great authors appraoched this question?
>>9203899
honestly it's a lot better to just do something you really enjoy with people you really enjoy being around then it is to be super good at what you do tea bee ache
>>9203928
How do I do that?
I'm prone to terrible bouts of this every few months, it's agonizing and the people around me don't understand it. When it happens I devote my energy to multiple projects to exhaust myself so I don't get sucked away by those thoughts. Being busy and looking at finished work seems to be the best way to move past it.Honestly though, when it's really bad I succumb to retail therapy and splurge on cute things I'm too depressed to wear.
>>9203928
Surrounding yourself with positive activities and people is also another good strategy, especially if you enjoy socializing.
What do you think of the pop philosophy pushed by educational companies like London Real and the School of Life?
What's their real intent? Are they just trying to become the millennial equivalent of self-help books?
It's shite
>>9203867
It's ok. Might get you to check someone out. It is primarily just a way to make money though. Let's get real.
>>9203867
>What's their real intent?
Isn't "philosophical honey" a clue for you?
They're in for the money.
Also Alain De button is clearly a philosophical zombie.
Who should replace Melvyn Bragg in "in our time".
He's old, cantankerous, disrespectful to guests, incontinent, his speech is getting slurred.
Time to put the old horse out to pasture.
Who would you replace him with?
If they replace him with Stephen fry I will literally stab my neighbors cat.
>>9203848
You idiot
He needs to push those nerds along, it's the only way
>>9203874
Yeah. But he won't last forever.
You can tell that he's just going through the motions. He's not into it anymore.
Compare IOT episodes from 2007 to now.......
who was better, Evola or Pynchon?
This is tough, although Evola was more realistic so I would go with him.
who???
Without question, it was Evola.
>mfw an author uses a word with more than three syllables
>>9203733
His dialogue is so realistic!!!!!
He is incredible
I'd definetly let him pop my ass
>>9203733
That's why English is such a shitty language
>muh briefness
over-elaboration and unnecessarily fanciful language is legitimately my pet peave.
that shit can't compensate for a lack of substance, if anything it just highlights the author's superficiality.
there is a time and place for muh big words though, don't me wrong.
is there a word for something that's even more obvious than an axiom?
self-evident
>axiom
>obvious
wot
#goals #omg #yasssss
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/ohio-bookstore-flips-male-authored-books-displaying-them-backwards/
Do these people really not see the problem with doing shit like this?
>>9203594
It was done as a social commentary, not a store policy
>>9203609
same question
>tfw spoiled by Borges
>everything I now read in Spanish is inferior and thus can't enjoy it
You're the definition of a pretentious.
>>9203601
why? It's like fucking the girl of your dreams. Of course you're still gonna like fucking other girls, but you're always going to compare them to The One, because she's simply better at everything than the others.
Are the Andrew Hurley translations worth reading?
Consider scat play
>>9203581
Farts aren't scatplay you degenerate
My recent time on /trash/ has convinced me that, rather than a straight scat fetish, Joyce seems to have had a messing fetish. That is, he wasn't so into the poop itself, but rather he was into the act of pooping. That's why he wants Nora to shit her panties in that one letter. The act of shitting itself is what arouses him.
How do you organize your books?
by cover aesthetics.
books with shitty covers get pushed to the ends.
>>9203578
By type
Literature, genre fiction, science and history, biographies and economics
>>9203578
By height
If height is the same width decides
Hi /lit/, I would like to ask for your help.
I work in a law firm that is specialized in defending the right of workers, mostly factory workers, bricklayers, janitors, maids, truck-drivers, and humble people in general.
These people tend to get grouped in the waiting room and wait for minutes or hours with nothing to do. Few seem to have the habit of reading, and what is offered to them by the firm in the waiting room are only magazines and newspapers.
I was thinking of doing an experiment: print some poems, translate them into my native language (Portuguese), bind them together and leave them in the waiting room (a few copies), so people could read them.
I think of including a literal translation (without worrying about rhyme or metric) and a small, contentious explanation of each of the poems.
Here is the central question: I would like to know which poems to choose. I want poems that are ready-impressive, that have the ability to capture the attention of people who are not accustomed to reading poetry. At the same time the poems cannot be too complex, too subtle, and it is good that they deal with more general subjects such as life, death and nature.
Is also important to me to select poems from various time periods, various styles and cultures.
So, could you guys give me some suggestions for my project?
I will post some poems that I have already selected.
>>9203447
Some of my choices (OP here)
Dulce et Decorum
Wilfred Owen
Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs,
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots,
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of gas-shells dropping softly behind.
Gas! GAS! Quick, boys!—An ecstasy of fumbling
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time,
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And flound’ring like a man in fire or lime.—
Dim through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.
If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil’s sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,—
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.
Sonnet 33
William Shakespeare
Full many a glorious morning have I seen
Flatter the mountain-tops with sovereign eye,
Kissing with golden face the meadows green,
Gilding pale streams with heavenly alchemy;
Anon permit the basest clouds to ride
With ugly rack on his celestial face,
And from the forlorn world his visage hide,
Stealing unseen to west with this disgrace:
Even so my sun one early morn did shine
With all-triumphant splendor on my brow;
But, out, alack! he was but one hour mine,
The region cloud hath mask’d him from me now.
Yet him for this my love no whit disdaineth;
Suns of the world may stain when heaven’s sun staineth.
Macbeth’s Speech
Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
>>9203455
Some of my choices (OP here)
Many red devils ran from my heart
And out upon the page.
They were so tiny
The pen could mash them.
And many struggled in the ink.
It was strange
To write in this red muck
Of things from my heart.
In the Desert
In the desert
I saw a creature, naked, bestial,
Who, squatting upon the ground,
Held his heart in his hands,
And ate of it.
I said, “Is it good, friend?”
“It is bitter—bitter,” he answered;
“But I like it
“Because it is bitter,
“And because it is my heart.”
Stephen Crane
The world of dew
Is the world of dew
And yet, and yet…
Kobayashi Issa
The Tyger
William Blake
Tyger Tyger, burning bright,
In the forests of the night;
What immortal hand or eye,
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?
In what distant deeps or skies.
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand, dare seize the fire?
And what shoulder, & what art,
Could twist the sinews of thy heart?
And when thy heart began to beat,
What dread hand? & what dread feet?
What the hammer? what the chain,
In what furnace was thy brain?
What the anvil? what dread grasp,
Dare its deadly terrors clasp!
When the stars threw down their spears
And water'd heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the Lamb make thee?
Tyger Tyger burning bright,
In the forests of the night:
What immortal hand or eye,
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?
You would help them more by helping them seize the means of production.
Print some copies of the communist manifesto, not some shitty bourgeois poems.
I don't get it.
>>9203394
don't be a nihilist for dummies
He's a prince and little.
What is not to get?
it's a stupid book packed full of meaningless babbling that was worded to make it sound meaningfull to children
i went to the library today and got a few books. which one should i start with /lit/?
i got
kafka:
the judgement
the metamorphosis
nietzsche:
on music
untimely meditations
human, all-too-human
the dawn
the gay science
thus spoke zarahustra
beyond good and evil
on the genealogy of morality
the twilight of the idol
the antichrist
ecce homo
What did the librarian say when you brought all of those to the counter?
>>9203362
I'd say Beyond good and evil, or maybe The Metamorphosis while picking a few pages by Nietzsche here and there.
>>9203362
how well-read are you op
idk if starting out on nietzsche is really the way to go unless if you're familiar with the philosophy leading up to it hence all the annoying redpill dudebros who eat up nietzsche
Okay lads times to stop fucking around and read McElroy. I'm a quarter of the way through my seccond mcelroy (actress) and it's just as addictive and good as the last one I read(ancient). Apparently these aren't even his best works (only ones I could find) and they are totally enthralling. I saw people say he's just a meme (probably talking about WAM) who's "waaay obtuse" and "totally devoid of emotion or anything to say" or "difficult for the sake of being difficult" and to that I say you haven't read him my family. If you have the slightest interest in him order one of his books. I'm actually having "FUN" reading them, yeah that's right, fun, you know that thing you're supposed to have when you read a book. Sorry this is vague don't want to write anymore than I already have. FEEL FREE TO ASK ME ANYTHING.
*mcelroy adds 5 cents to anons account*
>>9203316
What did he meme by this?
What?
You're too much of a pussy to read Lookout Cartridge? His non-meme masterpiece?