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>pursude

>>10026154
Sorry not a native speaker.

Anyways to the thread I want to stretch
>And thus the end result is hedonism because hedonism feeds or rather IS the source of your will to power and thus creative ability?
especially. I made some vague statements but this is the core I think.
end RESULT NOT end GOAL

>>10026148
As always it depends on how you use the word. Hedonism typically means that the pursuit of pleasure and avoidance of pain is what is to be desired, having certain versions that emphasise different things such as the avoidance of pain over attainment of pleasure for example (negative hedonism, like in Schopenhauer).

You have to keep in mind that "Macht" in German is something like capacity to do something rather than power in a general sense (hence the Auschwitz slogan "arbeit macht frei" using the word in the sense of "makes"). So for Nietzsche what is prioritized is the capacity of a drive rather than the result (which may not be pleasurable as such, although it can become that). The fact that pleasure is present is no problem for Nietzsche as long as it is secondary to what the drive can do.

Sade, before Freud, would of course say that sexuality is behind it all because everytime someone attains a goal the result is an increase in his sexual potential (looking at the sexual harrasment so prevalent in our day, he may be right), but for Nietzsche the drives looking to differentiate themselves from one another are "real" in that they fight for dominance over the "individual", they do not have a hidden agenda because they are the hidden agenda. The will to power is a fact before it is a prescription. We may make the Spinozist point that pleasure is a good indicator for a healthy and empowering combination, but that isn't always the case initially.

Besides, Nietzsche called Mill a blockhead because he made pleasure the unot of measurement rather than a byproduct.

Is The Stand any good? I feel Steven King's mythology is really weird. Like what the fuck is with his self insert shit and the turtle.

>>10026203
Never read The Stand, but I loved the Dark Tower series. It's weird to have him outside of terror, but Mr. Mercedes was in another level.

>>10026203
No, colossal waste of time

>>10026077
It's got wagging tails in it.

>>10026077
i read it when i was a kid because it was written by the same person who wrote watership down

it's... not the same
i don't think i have ever truly recovered
it's a good book but that is some dark shit right there

>>10026111
I definitely wasn't ready for this when I read it. First read it in middle school. Just stumbled upon in by chance.

I don't regret it, but that was a ride to remember that for damn sure.

>>10026052
If it's as good as From Hell I would say it's worth a hundred and fifty dollars.

>>10026052
Moore's prose isn't nearly as good as his works in comics. Just read any other doorstoper like Don Quixote, tale on the Genji, or hell, even infinite jest and you'll probably get way more (heh) out of it

>>10026052
>fifty dollars
Shouldn't be that much
>How is it?
Long

Does a detailed immortalization of the town of Northampton sound appealing to you? If not, get Voice of the Fire instead

>>10026038
Yesterday when someone made a really funny comment on this board.

>>10026038
When Heidegger started talking about the concept of logos in the introduction of Being and Time

>>10026038
When reading all of the Philip K Dick novels

1810

>>10026010

Didn't know there were 2 versions, whats the difference?

>>10026539
Don't know the hard facts, apparently two scholars discovered a set of manuscripts that change the mood/tone of the whole thing into a more religious, darker one. I'm OP btw, so take it with a grain of salt as obviously I haven't still read any of them.

It just feels right! Don't you have any common sense? Nobody thinks like that.

>>10025989
>pro-tip: you kant

>>10025989
if there is objective morality why did God literally have to make a mini-him to tell people dietary laws were dumb

couldn't he see like a few thousands year into the future nigga

>>10025795
nah, not really

>>10025795
Big historical narratives like this are always useless because in trying to be objective and not forward any one perspective they end up saying next to nothing
Philosophy is not the domain for the ballsless

Start with the Greeks

Everything is misunderstood, nothing is nihilism

deconstruction is not nihilism and it's not misunderstood by those who read it.

deconstruction is not nihilism but most deconstructionist writers lie and sneak in their shitty ideology while pretending they don't which is the worst kind of writing man can imagine

>>10025755
My diary, desu.

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>>10025755

>>10025755
Against the Day, especially if you're a sodomite

Haha deadpool ikr
Its called a phatic expression
4th wall is for the theatre

>>10025725
Mister B. Gone

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>>10025737
I knew there had to be a term for it. Too bad I was too lazy to look it up.

>>10025709
i read his dog books when I was a kid. I haven't since.

I've read:

Call of the Wild
Wild Fang
[French titled story about a dog]
The Iron Heel
Martin Eden
Collection of Short Stories
Martin Breadcorn (?) [about an alcoholic dude]
Some political writing
The Shadow and the Flash


I like his dog books as they introduced me to the notion that nature was merciless and hostile. I enjoyed The Iron Heel as it presented to me, in my years as a pseudo-socialist, with the notion that human society too is an arena in which brutality and so on tend to dominate if people allow it. I'll perhaps read his biography one day, though Martin Eden provides one in part, and I enjoyed that story and related to the protagonist due to his stubborn auto-didacticism, his falling in love with a woman of the upper class, his struggle to publish his works and so forth.

>>10025709
The Sea Wolf is his best book.

>>10025701
alternatively are there any books that rip the best of the tales into small selections? I haven't got very long to read this stuff

Sincerity

irony = you want to see something from the outside
sincerity = you want to see something from the inside

both

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>>10025634
Banks was a god, and the only people to deny this are attention-seeking baiting shitposters.

The Winter Storm is a great name for a privateer.

Enjoyed Phlebas and the Player of Games, though I don't rate them THAT highly. Good but didn't really leave a lasting impression on me. Also read Surface Detail, a friend left it at my house, and, fucking hell, that book is disturbing. The whole digital hell thing and its detailed description is just gross and depressing, not subtle, not clever, just detailled and abhorrent. Would not recommend, but then I also don't watch gore videos or modern horror films, so maybe its just me.