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>>9273273
It means "just be your self but also like, be nice and stuff." That's the best you're gonna get, OP.

>>9273273
>pretty obviously Marxist false consciousness
>also Buddhist stuff
>also

3/10 sorry

looks like you got some replies though

Wikipedia

>>9273078
essentially, I want to know all of my options.

I've believed enough different and contradictory things in my life, that on some level, I have to admit the possibility that I am misapprehending the world. That I am not seeing it as it truly is.

Maybe Aztecs had it right? Maybe the Joseph Kony and the Lord's Resistance Army has figured it all out? Maybe the truth is to be found in Hillary Clinton and liberal capitalism? Maybe /pol/ is right and the Jews and Bilderberg are conspiring against me with alien angels who built the pyramids? Mart Luther King Jr. seems like a pretty cool guy, but so does Malcom X and original Martin Luther.

My point is, how could you know you were right until you knew all the options?

>>9273098
Wikipedia is a very useful resource, but it isn't easy to navigate. Not only that, but I'm not concerned about butterfly taxonomy or who won the 1956 olympic gold medal in pole vaulting, or the number of bridges in montana.

Too much irrelevant material in wikipedia.

Surely some philosopher has, at some point, tried to categorize all belief systems? I suppose such a task would go out of date quite quickly, but it'd be a starting point.

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Why do you guys have so much trouble with the greeks that this question has to constantly be asked?

There aren't many extant greek texts to even read so it's not a question of something being hard to find.

Literally just google it and you will come up with all of them.

http://sonic.net/~rteeter/grttabl.html

>>9272970
>There aren't many extant greek texts to even read

Don't make me cry anon.

>>9272960
The great Hellenist Moses Hadas has a book I see from time to time in good used book stores (I also still possess a copy) called Ancilla to Greek Reading, which might prove helpful. If I were (you) I'd read Hesiod first (quick, easy, informative) and then move on to the historians Herodotus (fun) Thucydides (great) Xenophon (conclude with Anabasis) after which (you) can read the major plays and early lyric poets, etc.

Why is it heralded as a classic, then? I don't understand.

>>9272914
Probably because she's a woman. It's stale as hell, I can only imagine women just thought she was doing something amazing and shilled it

Its positively revolutionary in its innovations of first person narration and indirect discourse.

No, the plot is not super exciting. But how the narration traces Jane's development is extraordinary. Of course you'd have to be sensitive to these more subtle sorts of things.

Pleb.

You're actually better off watching the tv programme....which the book was based on.

My dairy was better.

>>9272730
>t. moocow

It's good. Even what I would consider to be the naive elements in his thinking are worthwhile, insofar as they are expressed with such sincerity. However, I also watched the tv programme, so my sense of the tone of the book has been coloured by the man himself. That's probably legit, though.

>>9272693
He didn't actually write this though

"Here I stand, under gravity's rainbow--- yet where's MY pot o' gold?"

Fucking seriously, Pynchon?

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>It was only after a decade and a half that I came to terms with my predicament. Following a through exploration of my current dwellings, I noticed I had been living inside the Earth. And as I scribble on these pieces of paper, I've come to understand that I am truly writing Notes From the Underground.

They call this guy a 'genius'.

houellebecq is not far right

>>9272641
This guy seems like an enormous cuck, and not necessarily in the pejorative sense

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I like to tell lefties they will lose either way, because either nationalist conservatism gains power and stops third world immigration, or leftists will let in enough '''''''refugees''''''' to kickstart Islamisation and we will simply have our reactionary revolution with a bit more exoticism.

Either way, liberalism is done for because it's an ideology without a functioning immune system that offers no gratification. It's a vacuum waiting to be filled by something more assertive.

I hope the European reactionaries win though because I like my booze and charcuterie.

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>>9272061
>Eissi lay reading in bed with his brown torso naked

bump for interesting potential in this thread

>>9272061
DFW getting sad he threw a table at someone. I'm nice 98% of the time but when I get mad I fly off the handle and do crazy shit.

>>9271823
does he do audiobooks?

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>>9271823
Nah but I was waiting for an excuse to buy this

shniff

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EVERY GROUP MUST FOUND ITSELF IN THE SHARED SUFFERING OF BEING TOWARD DEATH. EVERY GROUP MUST BE A GROUP OF WARRIORS.

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>>9271684

OP here, I will cite "Moscow: to the End of the Line"

"When did you first notice that you're a fool, Venichka?

Here's when. When I was reproached at once and the same time for two things in polar opposition--for being both boring and frivolous...

And should I tell why? Because I am sick in the soul.. Because, since that time, as I remember my condition, I do nothing but simulate mental health, expending everything, without a scrap left over, all powers, mental, physical, whatever. This is what makes me boring. Everything that you speak of, whatever occupies your time, is forever alien to me. While that which occupies me, I'll not say a word about. Maybe from fear I'll be taken for crazy, maybe from something else, but--all the same--not a word.

I got PTSD in the meme wars

>>9271652
Details:
>I'm thinking of a fairly rigorous pace, maybe seven to ten pages a week.
>Either one long weekly discussion on a day that works for everyone or daily discussion focusing on one person's work for the week, if schedules permit.
>This is a time bound endeavor. The goal will be to produce a complete first draft by the end of whatever date we set. We can discuss length in more detail, but I think 150-200 pages is ideal, so things don't drag on too long.
>There will be a planning period before we start, where we can streamline methods for plotting the work.
>3-5 people max I think.

>>9271652
super interested.

>>9272036
Cool.

Maybe just one or two more people and we're good to go, then.

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>>9271301
fuck there should be a period at the end.

i also wrote this poem for my dad who just died recently

dream lawyer

did you photograph this florida sunset with your slingshot temperament
did you bury dead flowers under the physicality of your footsteps
you talk to your clients while i water the fake plants
and the sun does circles around you
the diet coke king inaugurates another moody tuesday
and i keep thinking
why do i have a brain
and you practice your putting
like nothing is happening
and nothing is happening
i needed a lawyer to sue my bad dream
and you came
with bagels and coffee
and collateral—a sweat stained callaway hat
you came
with a tornado’s deposition
you came, of course you did
you came into my bad dream
exorcising it in the name of ballgame
your reason was dominant
you took me to where the rain never bleeds
and dream lawyer
you took me to earth’s greenest steam shower
and showed me the emergent airplanes over the concrete fields
dream lawyer, i owe you
for passing the dream down

>unironically doing pottery
My critique would be that you should spend your time doing something useful

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>it's a "degenerate thinks that people can actually live a hedonistic lifestyle without becoming lazy, impulsive, soulless, empty husks of human beings" episode

>>9270960
>it's a "Calvinist thinks there is inherant virtue in prolonging avoidable suffering" passage

>>9270960
>it's a "making the exact mistake pointed out in the post you're responding to" post

Op I've had a strange fascination with mining recently...

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Here's a couple more mining pics for ur spooky pleasure.

Imagine how intimidating it was before flashlights.

Baudrillard, America

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance?

>>9270352
My diary desu