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Hello. Since our last thread around two days ago I went about setting up a for-print manuscript for Dreamscape. I've uploaded two preview PDFs of the raw, unmolested manuscript and an edited version where I tried my best to clean up the messy structure, untidy formatting and touched up some basic grammar on some of the stories.

https://mega.nz/#!jMtH3aqR!2E_CZrYAa9WUnZ23ebRltL9tTKrGblPQ-LDDagG-M8c

It'd be great if some anons still interested in this project could have a quick check through either preview and tell me what their preference is. I know the original intention was to edit the collaboration so as to give it some semblance of plot and structure (as opposed to the past collaborations) but if people really prefer the untouched copy, I can go about setting that up for print. Personally I prefer the edited version, but it's not final and if there's feedback to be had on that, by all means please share it.

Oh, also. If any graphic design types are interested in working on the book's cover, feel free to reply letting us know, and i'll send over a Trim Size Template you can work your cover off of.

Thanks
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wtf i love reddit now
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>>9274924
I thought Reddit was involved with Hypershere?
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I tried attempting a cover idea before, something's not right though. Probably the fonts

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Where did the idea of having to wash to "purify" yourself before God(s) or seeing God(s) being lethal to mortals come from? I know that the Greeks thought so, but they probably got it from the Jews, who might have gotten it from the Egyptians. So where did the Egyptians get it from?

How far back does this idea go? It seems really common, especially in the Mediterranean region, and near East.
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>>9274326
Idk lad but if you stare at the sun your eyes hurt so it's probably like that.
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>>9274326
>Where did the idea of having to wash to "purify" yourself before God(s) or seeing God(s) being lethal to mortals come from?
Defecation. Not even trolling.
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>>9274333
But then why was it something only ordained for priests and such?

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Honest opinion of Faulkner?
Never been to /lit/ pls don't judge if this is a stupid question.
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Undeniably brilliant. Start with As I Lay Dying.

Reminded me of a better The Waves, though The Waves certainly has its appeal as well.
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Faulkner? I've never met 'er!
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>>9274297
Gog em

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Any good series by this guy or any other authors? I really like book series in the science fiction/ horror genre
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>>9274165
i guess obligatory dark tower serious mentioning
i doubt that he has any other series
or for that matter any other good series
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Is IT worth the investment? Or his other longer books for that matter. I find long books quite daunting. 300-400 pages is my comfort zone.
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>>9274190
It is very good. So is The Stand, Under the Dome, and 11/22/63.

i will read this cover to cover and know more about literature than this whole board combined
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>>9274063
Man, what a waste of time, I almost feel bad for you. It's a reference book, anon. Read actual literary theory and criticism if you seek to learn more about literature as a formal field of study. If you want to 'know more about literature than this whole board combined,' then read the primary works of literature themselves---too much theory takes you away from aesthetic appreciation and emotional experience.
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>>9274063
https://www.amazon.com/Western-Canon-Books-School-Ages/dp/1573225142/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1490132128&sr=8-1&keywords=western+canon+harold+bloom
>but anon that's a meme
Emeritus at Yale, quality or not he's the probably the most influential critic alive.
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A thread died for this. Apologize OP.

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I know this board likes to pick on him a lot and I used to agree with your guys-es sentiments. Then I decided to pick up his novel "The Fault in Our Stars". Which you can purchase here -->https://books.google.com/books?id=UzqVUdEtLDwC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+fault+in+our+stars&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj-8puOvOjSAhVM7GMKHZGnAUAQ6AEIGjAA#v=onepage&q=the%20fault%20in%20our%20stars&f=false


It suddenly occurred to me while reading it, that John Green is really bullied for want of a good reason here. When you actually read his book you realize how he really tried to push the medium of teenage romance novels by making them deeply philosophical and profound. That's better than most of you neets can say. Just take the title for instance. "The Fault in Our Stars" points to Shakespeare's master work Julius Caesar and the famous line "The fault dear Brutus is not in our stars, but in ourselves" and it rejects the simplistic nature of such a reactionary view. Instead it submits that it is indeed our stars fault. It is not our own choices to blame, but instead the socio-economic situation we were born in. I understood this sense he was a kid probably, when he had trouble getting girls. It wasn't his fault! It was because of the life he was given. I should note that I am practicing Christian by the way, but even I can see that the deep message that John puts into his work is noteworthy of admiration and perhaps emulation if you guys were wise enough to do so.

That is all.
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>>9273946

Go to bed, John.
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Just bought a few copies, should I buy some more, /lit/?
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>>9273959
Yeah! I just bought a copy as well. It's much better than people on this board say it is.

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why was he obsessed with Donald Trump?
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>>9273775
no
why would you ask that?
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>>9273775
if you talk about patrick bateman, because donald represents everthing those yuppies want to be.
rich and famous, also known by everyone while everyone else looks / is the same
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I love the scene with Tom Cruise in the elevator.

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Say something nice to the best pre-socratic /lit/.

Being and Thought are the same.
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I would if moving my fingers were possible.
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>>9273735
Why it's not possible?
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>>9273741
I would first have to move them half the way then quarter of the way then ...

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What the fuck is his problem?
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rarest of pynchons
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>>9273705
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Ociety is shit and he knew it. American, that is. They show the absurdity of American consumerism and how the only ambition the average American has is to make loads of money so they can buy useless shit.
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Absolutely no problem at all. I consider Calvin and Hobbes one of the few comic strips that is artistically on par with most classics and deserving of the same respect

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Are the Sherlock Holmes books worth reading?
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yeah
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If you like mystery and good ol detective-work, then they are pretty cool. If you don't wanna read each one, check out the Granada TV series starring Jeremy Brent. It's exellent.
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>>9273688
of course they are you fucking mong

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Is Christianity the best religion to do the leap of faith into and rediscover spirituality and love once more?
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Yeah dude go for it
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Yes, but there's no reason to treat it like some disgusting Calvinist self-negation either. Don't listen to dissolutionist Buddhists, Islamists, or Calvinists. Look for the truth with an open heart and you'll start to see bits of it poking up at you amid the surf of grayness.
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Christian atheism is the best choice. At once living by tradition and virtue but without the necessary self-deception and struggle of faith.

I predict within our lifetimes we will see lifestyle theism become the norm.

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daily reminder to learn a new language
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>>9273418
But I am, I went from not speaking a word of French a few months ago to now reading Camus' L'Etranger
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>>9273421
then fucking kill yourself
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>>9273427
I might, I haven't got to the end yet

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What's a good critique of DFW's proposal for "New Sincerity"

>"Postmodern irony and cynicism's become an end in itself, a measure of hip sophistication and literary savvy. Few artists dare to try to talk about ways of working toward redeeming what's wrong, because they'll look sentimental and naive to all the weary ironists. Irony's gone from liberating to enslaving. There's some great essay somewhere that has a line about irony being the song of the prisoner who's come to love his cage… The postmodern founders' patricidal work was great, but patricide produces orphans, and no amount of revelry can make up for the fact that writers my age have been literary orphans throughout our formative years."

>“The next real literary “rebels” in this country might well emerge as some weird bunch of anti-rebels, born oglers who dare somehow to back away from ironic watching, who have the childish gall actually to endorse and instantiate single-entendre principles. Who treat of plain old untrendy human troubles and emotions in U.S. life with reverence and conviction. Who eschew self-consciousness and hip fatigue. These anti-rebels would be outdated, of course, before they even started. Dead on the page. Too sincere. Clearly repressed. Backward, quaint, naive, anachronistic. Maybe that’ll be the point. Maybe that’s why they’ll be the next real rebels. Real rebels, as far as I can see, risk disapproval. The old postmodern insurgents risked the gasp and squeal: shock, disgust, outrage, censorship, accusations of socialism, anarchism, nihilism. Today’s risks are different. The new rebels might be artists willing to risk the yawn, the rolled eyes, the cool smile, the nudged ribs, the parody of gifted ironists, the “Oh how banal.” To risk accusations of sentimentality, melodrama. Of overcredulity. Of softness. Of willingness to be suckered by a world of lurkers and starers who fear gaze and ridicule above imprisonment without law. Who knows. ”
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i am interested. tracked
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The same folly of the far left. The foolish hope that you can force a socio-philosophical shift
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Thing is, he doesn't really outline a real philosophy to counter postmodernism. He makes a brilliant critique of postmodernism- and indeed it's as needed as ever these days- but just saying "lol just be sincere," isn't much of a selling point of "new sincerity."

And that's kind of the point. Postmodernism kills any idea of a suitable replacement. You can't simply revert to sincerity after postmodernism.

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ITT: writers who are literally you
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gay?
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>>9273312
jew?ß
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>>9273312
i wonder if you are basing this of his personal life or his writing

i can't wait for my inevitable conversion to catholicism and descent into madness

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