Is it worth reading?
No
>>9278148
>muh philobarbarianism
>Ecce Homo
>Ecce is actually straight
>Pornografia
>no explicit descriptions of fucking
>The New Annotated Oxford Bible
>it was published 16 years ago
>The Savage Detectives
>they are actually quite mild
>w
>double u
>uu
u used to be v
genius dude.
howd you figure that out?
you ever notice that u looks live v and that v is a symbolic representation of the way of all things, the downward merge of opposing sides/forces to a single downward point, the way of all things.
man i had no idea w was so deep, two "(you)" one for you one for me...it's like two v's man, the more refined version displaying the duality of life and it's undefinable distinction from a birds-eye view.
>Ƿ
>wynn
>win
best short stories?
there was a great story by Julio Cortazar in Harper's in the early 1980's I believe about a guy who put on a bright yellow tie, and put an ant on his tie, and paraded himself down the sidewalk infront of his neighbour's house to make him jealous.
that was great.
can't remember the name, sadly.
Mark Leyner's Car Bomb from My Cousin, My Gastroenterologist is decent.
Of course, there's Alice Munro, Ray Carver, Updike.
WHAT MEN LIVE BY
"Gift of the Magi" by O.Henry.
"The Swarm" by Bruce Sterling.
that is all.
Do any of you faggots know the exact name of the format in which Gaddis and Joyce write in? They never use quotation marks but rather use hyphens to indicate when a character is speaking.. very interested in this
>>9275829
Slow board, shameless self bump.
It doesn't have a name.
It's a stylistic choice of indicating dialogue. 'Quotation marks' are simply a convention, an English convention, they're not a rule.
The problem with using them comes about when you use a dash to indicate interrupted speech, a convention that is paired with quatation mark use.
>>9275909
That's a shame.. I was hoping to read into it, maybe try my hand towards that style. It's real natural and doesn't run the risk of becoming a "and then our main hero said" type of novel.
Realistically, how many books should you read before you attempt to write your own?
>>9275872
~ 500
At the very least, 100
>>9275872
zero
if you can speak and write english and have the inclination to write, then have it
the publisher can decide whether your work is sellable
How much do i have to know about painters and artists to read this book? Will i miss a lot if i dont?
you're going to miss a lot regardless
>>9275936
its that hard?
Bump for interest, how hard is it compared to GR?
>tfw was just one book ahead of schedule, then am 4 books ahead of schedule all of a sudden because reading Plato dialogues.
Goodreads thread. Post em
https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/27498265-tyler
http://www.goodreads.com/user/show/51339192-george-dundalli
Goodreads is trash, are there alternatives out there?
>>9275863
LibraryThing
I'm going to Europe next week and plan to make some entries in a disused journal I've had around. Too shameful and nauseous for me to keep, I'm about to cut out and burn the first few pages.
Journal thread? What sorts of entries do you all make? The pages I'm removing are of bleak points and failed half-relationships, and at this point I don't much care to keep them.
get over yrself
>>9275731
Pic related didn't run from his past. Keep it as a reminder.
>>9275731
Where in Europe?
Get some real literature in your lifes.
Buy the best-selling and top-charting book now !
Reprint coming soon !
>>9275669
that is some expensive shit paper
>>9275669
We've got our own literature arriving thank you very much
I'll take 23
>try to read Zizek
>immediately starts using different definitions for common words, misunderstanding scientific theories and applying them to social concepts, and capitalising words that don't need to be capitalised
>>9275618
So?
>>9275739
It's a fundamental flaw in his writing.
>>9275592
>▶
ya like whatever xDDD xPPP its not like the ego isnt the only thing that matters?!
Egoism is the REAL spook.
Stirner would make a good movie villian.
Would you rather:
A) write a couple fairly well received books when you're young, make some decent money from it, enjoy a comfy interesting life, but have your writings basically forgotten by the time you are old
or
B) work shit jobs while struggling to write a book well into middle age, get it published after many years of trying, hardly anyone reads it, die poor and nameless but your book becomes a classic decades after your death and you are still cited hundreds of years later
>implying I'm looking for approval
if you dont answer b you need to leave this board
>>9275574
Would you pick A or B?
What is the American Way?
The way you follow until pay day
A struggle between doing the right thing and doing whatever it takes to win
>>9275560
this.
>>9275517
feral idiots like this have no sense of true america. anyone who thinks we are money-hungry capitalists misunderstand the real drive, the real impulse, of which the fiscal is only an outer consequence: i mean our desire to be unburdened, once and for all, by the problem of quantity.
we are a people who have built a way of life around the most dramatic attempt mankind has met to absolve itself of the problem of waste, and live freedom from the existential yolk of "not having enough." we may take it a lil far, sure.
but i'd also say that the american way is best represented by whitman--at least in its purest, most romantic form:
all the past we leave behind, we debouch upon a newer, mightier world, varied world, fresh and strong the world we seize, world of labor and the march....Colorado men are we, from the peaks gigantic, from the great sierras and the high plateaus, from the mine and from the gully, from the hunting trail we come....From Nebraska, from Arkansas, central inland race are we, from Missouri, with the continental blood intervein’d; all the hands of comrades clasping, all the Southern, all the Northern....O to die advancing on! Are there some of us to droop and die? has the hour come? Then upon the march we fittest die, soon and sure the gap is fill’d, Pioneers! O pioneers!
>18 months ago
>come up with a cool idea fantasy world
>spend a full year picking it apart and piecing it back together
>go through dozens of first drafts and concepts
>7 months ago
>everything is hammered out
>decide to write a short story as a testing bed for this idea
>4 months ago
>the short story has grown into a cancerous mass of novella and the larger concept is still in flux
>1 month ago
>I've pretty much mathematically proved the larger concept is shit and refocused on getting making the test story the main event
>1 week ago
>realize that to trim the novella down I need to start over from scratch and redraft
>1 hour ago
>realize that my draft won't work
How the hell to novelists do it /lit/? How the hell do novels get written at all? I'm not cut out to be a writer, I should have never taken up this stupid hobby or this dream of being published. I just can't get these characters and world out of my head but I can't put them into words or a plot.
I wish I never had this perfect storm of ambition and perceived but nonexistent potential that led me to desire accomplishing something more with my life. Everything since my freshman year of highschool has been a collossal fucking mistake
>>9275498
The greats weren't great because at birth they could play. The greats were great because they played a lot.
Make the money, anon.
>>9275545
I can't even create a working plot after 18 months of planning. I don't expect to be a genius but I at least expect to have something to show for all that wasted time
>>9275550
>18months of planning vs 18mo writing
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm