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>>9278189
stuff you should know, npr weeklies, and that shitty one where they play dnd but the sound design is so good

you should listen to the history of rome if you haven't already, it's really engaging and was easy to follow. i do know more about rome now than i ever will need to

>>9278189
The History of Philosophy without any Gaps

>>9278189
War College and NPR, especially 1A and On Point. In Our Time is the best. Sam Harris philosophy doesnt do anything for me, but his current event episodes are good.

Lol didn't read faggot

>>9278153
Shut up cunt

>>9278153

I dont hate anyone, anon.

Apart from some religious charlatan leaders, notorious criminals and some politicians and legislators who submit themselves to the interests of large corporations, I cannot recall the last time I felt hate for anyone.

And to be honest, even the figures I mentioned, if I had to see them suffer and agonize, that would make me feel bad for them. In the end it seems that it is all a way of people trying to be respected and important and loved, always something with fear on its lowest level.

I saw a middle-aged man sited on a park bench today, with very sad eyes and wrinkled forehead. I felt so bad for him. I wanted, if possible, to jump inside his mind and hang flowers on the gargoyles of his problems and garlands on the dead-trees of his miseries.

I asked the same question some time ago, and a nice anon brought Quine. Haven't read it yet, but what the anon said gave me the impression that Quine is less ignorant than most american analytic fags.

>>9278119
Analytic grad student reporting in, which is to say a grad student in an analytic department who is nevertheless very critical of contemporary analytic methodology.

There is no epistemology involved in formal logic, including modal logic. I'm not sure what you mean by "meta-epistemology" or "the phenomenology of logical 'necessity,'" but those systems are purely formal and are best treated in purely formal ways. Their application to concrete phenomena in substantial argumentation is where epistemology enters the scene, and I will admit that your standard contemporary analytic will invoke modal notions and possible worlds without any hesitation or epistemological scruples or examination of their own methodology. The bulk of them are tinkerers, who want to apply their self-fashioned tools to their hyper-specific problems without worrying about the rigor, efficacy, and legitimacy of the broader practices.

>Sometimes when they speak about truth, reference, concepts, etc., it seems to me that they are being almost bewilderingly naive about how ambiguous their statements are, despite the stolid presentation.
This seems right to me. The interesting and meaty stuff is the stuff they presuppose in going about their technical business. They largely presuppose a formalized correspondence theory of truth, a monolithic relation of reference, and a Platonism about concepts (or, more usually, "propositions"). The interesting work is in those who try to critique, resist, or at least investigate the widespread adoption of these presuppositions (e.g., later Wittgenstein).

>Someone told me to check out Kripke.
Try out his Naming and Necessity, or David Lewis, who is a bit more thoughtful and self-aware (and I would recommend his work if you're dying to read a defense of using formal modal notions in metaphysics, e.g.). Leaning modal logic and possible worlds semantics will not help you figure out what analytics are up to when they make use of modal logic and possible worlds in their philosophizing. Generally speaking, they don't know what they are up to. The giants like Lewis knew what they were up to but constructed whole systems to ground it. The others -- the academic laborers -- just follow suit methodologically because that is how it is done.

Better yet, read Quine's criticisms of modal logic and the use of modal notions in analytic philosophy. Quine is a champ.

Heidegger's "the metaphysical foundations of logic" and "logic"

>Do you try to bring up books while at parties?
If I'm on MDMA yes.

My first time I spent about 3 hours banging on non-stop about why Nietzsche is great.

>>9278115
Hahahahahhaba imagine bringing up Pynchon or Gass at a party full of normies

Ahhaahhahahahaha sorry im just imagining how autistic you would look

Hahahahhhahahahahaha

>>9278135
get off my board degenerate filth

/lit/ is straight edge.

Its called a journal you fucking nark

>>9278071

Journal
Diary

Whatever

I keep a blog. It's mostly about my life, the books I'm reading, and whatever I'm writing. Sometimes I talk about chess but very rarely.

Yukio Mishima?

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I would go with the japanese translation.

He insisted that his works be translated from English (rather than from Japanese), so I guess English.

he put a funny name man down toilet in a book of serious literature

if you dont understand the meaning of that, then im sorry

he was a man who sat down at the typewriter one day and asked himself 'where is the character in my novel going to go today?'

normal literature writers might have said 'to the old shoppe' or 'to the castle to pay tribute to the king.'

but not this guy.

this guy said, 'today, my character is going straight down the freeekin toilet.'

his wife probably heard him say it and was like 'what did you say?' her voice shaking and he probably whipped around in his chair and said it again. 'no!' his wife shouted. 'no! you cant do this! its serious literature! you cant have a man go down the toilet in literature!' t

hats when pynchon shouted at the heavens 'im doin it!!'

overflowing with the ecstasy of liberation, he whipped back around and started to type madly like a man possessed.

>>9277969
>a book of serious literature
Surely you don't mean Gravity's Rainbow

Also in what universe is Ulysses or Finnegans Wake "serious literature"?

honestly couldnt tell ya

>>9277958
Honesty i always good.

Donald "complete the system" Trump

I was the same way for a while, but I found that the more I read the more analytical I became.

>>9277855
What did you read exactly?

>>9277857
There was no one book that triggered it, I just maintained my reading habits and eventually I found myself with a more analytical understanding of literature. I read a lot of typical canonized lit, mostly from the 20th century but some stuff from prior eras, and a little bit of crime and sci-fi.

>>9277827

Siddhartha, the Buddha, the master of renunciation,
The king who has a magnolia with sap of empathy
And complacency as his heart.
Siddhartha, the prince
That with a warm smile carries
The whole cosmos on his flesh,
Compassion itself condensed in a human-shaped diamond.


(English is not my first language so I dont know how to respect the metric)

onses was a Joyous man
Who wended by the narm of Jamesy
He rote of Jewleysees and Fun a gun
And doobliners and stephen dead lass
Sucking the winding wind from his shipwife
He very much enjoined wife Nora
In laters writ some find moast discusseding
But I rather like that dare

>>9277883
nice

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>>9277817

Raging Bull

>>9277817

bump

Satantango
The bridge on the river kwai
Harakiri
The man who wasn't there
To live and die in L.A
Ivan the terrible
Dancer in the dark
Dogville
Chinatown
Entertainment
Woyzeck
The cook, the thief, his wife and her lover
Causalities of war
Nocturnal animals
Breaking the waves
The french connection
The great silence
Do the right thing
Leviathan
Le samourai
My son, my son what have ye done
Samurai rebellion
The cremator


Some of these may be a stretch for what you are specifically looking for but they are all great films

Pls help.

>>9277785
More of little summaries than a guide.

https://www.ottosell.de/pynchon/rainbow.htm

Yeah, that was me, lemme pull it up here.

1. To prepare was 48 hours of adult swim, to get you in the right mood (i recommend tim and eric, the eric andre show, and aqua teen hunger force) these shows will get your funny bone vibratin & get you attuned to the pynchon comedy frequency (~~~~~~)
2. Brush up on what things belong together and what dont. For instance, in war (serious), pie fights (not serious, wacky, ridiculous) do NOT belong together. Thats why its so freaking funny. If you're confused as to what things belong together and what dont, youre gonna miss a lot of the comedy, itsjust gonna fly (like a rocket lol) right over ur little tiny pea brain.
3. Watch monty python and the holy grail for some sophisticated comedy, because pynchon jokes are very high iq like the british version of a sitcom, not stupid like the american version.
4. Put on you're thinking cap, because pynchons gona throw a lot of important themes at you. Nobody before 1973 had ever said that the military-industrial complex was messed up. People thought it was really good. Then pynchon arrived on the scene with his flashes of merriment and his songs and gambols, and people took heart: war was bad news indeed.
4. Strap yourself in tight (its gonna be a bumpy ride)
5. Light some of that sweet sweet sweet ganga marijuana my sweet dude. Oooo that sticky stuff, suck on the joint mon like a ajamaican mon yayaha get high brother.
6. Jerk off before you start, so you arent interrupted with the urge to jerk off later. My fellow rocketeers know what i be sayin mon, yoo know? Ha ha.
7. Cancel all meetings and appointnments. Actually do this earlier.
8. Snacks. Get all the snacks you can find and build a snack fort. Youre gonna want to be snackin mon.
9. Start reading the book.
10. The first half of it doesnt make any sense. Thats on purpose. You just have to plow thru it. You may be thinking, but what could be the point of that. Heh. Book doesnt make any sense.... yeah, you think thats an accident? Lemme explain somethin else that didnt make too much sense to ya. World war 2. Yeah, sit on that.
11?. Keep on reading until you reach the end of the book.
12. Now you can jerk off agaib you animal.

>>9277768
bukowski is shit this is not poetry but scrawl. the s in scrawl stands for shit. he shatout a new scrawl every time his rent was due and faggot hipsters who wanted drinking to have a deeper meaning ate the shit out of his hand like the uncultured swine they truly are.

this is a shitpost containing yet more shit inside. you're a faggot pseud for liking him.

anon has embraced your concept./

>>9277768
love this poem. as an ars poetica it's beautiful. though I don't think it applies to everyone, i think it does contain a lot of truth.

the libraries of the world have
yawned themselves to
sleep
over your kind.
don't add to that.
don't do it.

Fucking amen.

>>9277732
>Winner

You're building yourself up for disappointment.

>>9277743
>what is Nathanial Hawthornes brother-in-law

>>9277684

East and Buddhism, phone typo kek.

What's the best translation of the Tao Te Ching?

>>9277684
You know there is not a "single" taoist school,right?

>>9277946
Read a lot of them