Why do people consider Shakespeare a writer? He wrote plays intended to be performed at theaters, and he didn't even give a shit about whether or not they were preserved for future generations.
Why do people read him? Is it just a meme?
>>9297019
He was the invention of The Earl of Oxford and his works are only still famous because British Imperialists used him as "evidence" of their cultural superiority.
Shakespeare is a good dramatist but fails on every level by literary standards.
Chaucer >>>>>> Shakespeare
>Great American Novell
>High School reading level
What do Americans mean by this?
It's just less than zero but in the1920s
>>9297013
You meant to say that Less Than Zero is just The Great Gatsby, but in the 1980's.
GG came out first, senpai
what even happened in this book again, all I remember is it was American psycho without the fun.
Are American writers worth reading? Im not American
is canned fruit worth eating?
i live in the tropics surrounded by fruit trees.
Yes. I'm not American and have read nanny American authors
>>9296971
Are non-american writers worth reading?
I don't think so.
This is pretty deep if you thimk about it.
Onw more.
>>9296966
The universe splits in this comic: the light background third panel where Jon regrets his action of taking the pipe, and the dark background where he leaves Garfield in peace
Is Garfield a nihilist?
but I'm too fuggin lazy to turn on the lights and write shit down in a notebook
Wat do
>he can't write in the dark
Use your phone to record them and in the morning you can listen to them. Or you could just leave a fucking notebook and a pen by your bed, you lazy fuck.
Messy edition.
>>9296927
Bonus pic: Hawaiian guys chewing the scenery.
>>9296927
Clean up your fucking shelves anon.
My messy shelf
What did he mean by this?
>>9296926
Individually all the seemingly unrelated aspects and events occurring in the realm of existence may seem insignificant or downright chaotic, but once you look at them within the overarching scope of a mythos (masterpiece), life gains a sort of emergent beauty.
>>9296926
Nabby doesn't usually say trite things in trite ways. Hard to believe this is him.
I think he talks about since the beginning of time we progressed a certain way, but we think we came so far that It doesn't seem like much is left to us, but in the future there is always change and it's sometimes bigger than we could ever imagine, ykno?
>age
>interesting factoid about yourself
>favorite short story
your father's age
I fucked your mom
OP's Conception
>42
> I've been impotent for 23 years
>The Wavemaker Falters by George saunders
>18
>I have trichotillomania
>Walter Mitty
Are there any books written in second person and/or future tense?
Calvino's "If on a winter's night a traveler" is partially in second person. I'm sure more /lit/erate folks will have other examples.
>>9296855
Not sure how you could form a coherent story entirely in future tense
>>9296855
Less than Zero's in the 2nd sing.
So is this guy the new Sam Harris?
It's really kind ofbothering methat he's being posited as this revolutionary hyper-intellectual when many of his ideas already emerged in the 20th century.
Also call me SJW if you want but it's fucked up that his rise to fame was basically exploiting transgender controversy.
>I wont use they/them pronouns
>hurr i'm a hero
And people bought it!! Goddamn.
>>9296848
I wish I didn't drop out when he was at Mac so I coulda pulled an Otoya
>>9296848
What if I told you transgenders are actually the most powerful race on earth?
>>9296848
he's like sam harris in that he's a philosopher for normies. Imagine how terrible the world would be if normies started reading kant and wittgenstein and start reading their insecurities into them, you get what i mean
Has anyone read it?
When i first did, I cried (which doesn't happen often). I felt frightened and ecstatic. A russian dude had described my psique to perfecion 150 YEARS AGO.
It sounds dumb now, but back then i thought I was saved, that I'd be able to get help.
Well, we know how that goes.
The person that has empathized with me the most is Fyodor Dostoyevsky, some russian dude that lived in the XIXth century, and that's where I'm at now.
Any thoughts?
>>9296832
You're supposed to resent the narrator senpai. That's the point. If you are the MC from Notes you've got some serious fucking issues.
>>9296863
i def do. i just wish i had someone to talk to who felt the same
>>9296832
Read it the other day. Did anyone else think it was hilarious? It reminded me of A Confederacy of Dunces
Can you recommend me an obscure book about teen angst, please?
Herman Hesse. If you're suffering from teen angst, that you're most likely somewhat young. That's the perfect age to read Hesse and you might actually learn something. Siddhartha and Steppenwolf are the best for you.
Not really teen angst but Sylvia Plath's "The Bell Jar" is about being a depressed, suicidal piece of shit who loses all direction in life.
my diary desu
What's the point in writing? I know people who derive self-worth from creating content, but I never understand it. There's just so much shit out there since the spread of the Internet, why even bother? You're never going to be an above-average writer or be recognized. Most media is over-saturated. Personally, I don't buy the argument that creating something is inherently valuable.
>you're never going to be an above-average writer or be recognized
You never know that.
>>9296741
Expanding on this: a) you never know if you're going to simply be washed away on the infinite sea of content; b) people who keep writing are somewhat self-confident/oblivious about this issue; c) continue writing because they genuinely find it fun and know they have a minimal shot at "making it". That's why most accomplished writers will tell you they kept writing because it gave them pleasure.
Plus, what would be the point of doing anything if you just think like this? It's literally stupid. "Why have a sailboat if you're never going to be able to compete in the Olympiads?"; "Why would you do woodwork if you'll never be a big furniture designer?"; "Why would you fish if you won't make it to fishing magazines and be sponsored?". The only things worth doing by your standards are things that can never amount to nothing, like posting on /lit/. Is this your endgame?
>>9296726
you could be though, but you have to try first in the first place
if its good enough people will spread it around and do all the hard work for you
This place needs fixing. It keeps getting more and more mediocre.
Please leave and never return if you agree with any of the following;
>you read any form of genre fiction
>you think fantasy, science fiction, detective fiction, young adult fiction or horror are literature
>you barely know your classics
>you tend to believe that if you like a given work, it is justified on an artistic level
>you think everyone's opinion should be accepted and respected
>you speak a single language
>you read contemporary versions of Shakespeare or Milton
>you read for the plot
>you read for entertainment
>you rarely read nonfiction
>you don't have a solid grounding in philosophy
>you do not at least have some understanding of the Three Tragedians and Homer
>you have little to no understanding of literature outside of your cultural horizon
>you have little to no understanding of literature within your own cultural horizon (muh african authors)
>you mostly read contemporary literature
>you believe 'the author is dead'
>you make your literary analysis proceed from ideology
>you think intricate prose is 'pretentious' and that the author 'should just get to the point'
>your rarely read poetry
>you think Rhythm and Rhyme is just useless rules and laws restricting creativity
>you have a hard time explaining why you like a given work
>you have a hard time forming structured and relevant literary criticism
>you tend to refuse to judge works for yourself, rather relying on the opinions of literary authorities
>you rarely read for more than one or two hours straight
This is a board about literature. You're not welcome here. Please take your plebeian garbage to /b/ or reddit, where you will find both a demographic and a general atmosphere more consistent with your tastes and your culture.
Also, what is the patrician book you are reading right now?
>>9296673
>what is the patrician book you are reading right now?
You first. Plus i want a thorough analysis or i'm taking away your patrician cred.
>>9296698
I'm not reading anything right now.
>>9296673
I want to Fuck this girl.
>hurr le evil bank and le evil capitalism boogeyman
Is Steinbeck literally retarded?
>>9296612
yeah, it's clearly evil JEWISH bankers and CULTURAL MARXIST capitalism that is to blame for all the world ills.
If he'd only written that he'd be /pol/ approved
>>9296612
Steinbeck was good at writing stories, but he was terrible at writing characters, which leads to his work feeling a bit stale.
>>9296612
i liked the cannery row a lot. he had a good sense of humor.