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Nietzsche chart/recommendations?

I know a bit about him from the memes here but I need to read some of his work until friday.
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>>9300219

Read his works in order of publication, as you would with any other author.
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>>9300219

You are a superficial person and even reading his work will be a meme to you. You could pick up his book, find a couple really dope lines and cite them off for rep and call it Nietzche, but you won't have the faintest inkling of what he was even talking about.

If you don't want to be a poseur turbofag and maybe for a second think about being a real human fucking being then you should probably consider getting your shit together and quick.


Start with the Greeks like everybody else and take it in when you get to Nietzche, but not for the purpose of Nietzche, but for the purpose of you. Because THAT is what he's really talking about, and you're not being the person Nietzche thinks you could be.
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Start with the Portable Nietzche and Basic writings by Kaufmann. Read the prefaces for each of his works in chronological order then start with The Gay Science or Beyond Good and Evil. You're free to jump right into it but you'll honestly get more out of the reading by having a background in Ancient Greek philosophy.

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I'm going to write a best selling young adult fantasy novel in 6 months and become rich off of it.
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me too
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Those who predict their own success who are forever destined for failure
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Like the other 30,000 :)

Sure bud, you'll make it

I know it's not exactly literature, but linguistics. I thought you could help me with this, though.

Natives speakers, if you say:

>“There’s no way we can police it”

Is that pronounced /polis it/ or /poliz it/?

What if you say:

>"Pet’s at the party"

Do you say “peetz at the party” or “peets at the party”? I am inclined to say it’s the later, but because ‘is’ is always ‘iz’ I am not sure whether that remains when contracted, or whether it follows the rule that the 's' carries on whatever sound it is preceded by.
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Wait, what? "Peets"? Why the hell would I make an -ee sound when pronouncing the word pet?
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>>9300162
Sorry, I meant to say "Pete" but the autocorrect changed it to "Pet", that's why the transcription is "peet"
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>>9300153
The term that you're looking for is 'the voicing of intervocalic "s"'.

Remember that English also has stress, and the plual ending is never stressed. Voicing does not occur in unstressed syllables. So the 's' in both your examples keeps its 's' sound, not 'z'.

It does occur in words like 'Islam', pronounced 'izlam' though; which Muslims hate. (If you take notice, they're always careful to say 'isslam'.)

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>believes the health issues concerning cigarettes to be a conspiracy theory because it undermines her philosophy
>dies in agony of said health issues

what philosopher could possibly hope to rival her epic failing?
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Such a cute hairstyle for such an ugly woman desu
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>>9300112
>conspiracy theory because it undermines her philosophy
her philosophy was ...that cigarettes are good?
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>>9300112
>>9300112
>believes the health issues concerning AIDS to be a conspiracy theory because it undermines his philosophy
>dies in agony of such health issues

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I apologize for being such a pleb, but is it necessary to read more ironic books before working on Infinite Jest? Wasn't he critical how we were becoming cynically ironic through everything that we do? Who are some authors that can help me understand irony better? Please don't roast
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Shut the fuck up.
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OP you are a piece of shit

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>female professor / classmate argues the morality of the characters even if it affects the narration
>female professor / classmates teaches in a quirky, funny, relatable tone and makes comparisons of serious literature to Harry Potter and Hamilton
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>"Nick is gay for Gatsby"

WHY IS IT ALWAYS GIRLS WHO SUGGEST THIS REEEEE
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>>9300067
Uh, what?
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>>9300076
Imagine if it was socially acceptable to retcon every pair of hot girls into lesbians.
Basically imagine if r34 was mainstream. It's the same principle, just aimed at the female sex drive rather than the male.

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>the great American novel has awful prose and is about a bourgeoisie cuck

really makes u think
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>>9296992
delet this
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>>9300062
>I don't understand the appeal
Me neither, didn't care for any of the carachter or the action, the insight, the prose, etc. Wasn't painful to read but neither pleasant
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>>9300062
But Moby-Dick has great prose and is about a whaler

How the fuck am I supposed to turn the page with me cock in my hand?
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>>9300010
>turn the page with me cock
is what you must do
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>>9300014
>getting precum on the pages
Do Americans really do this?
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>touching your cock
>not letting the vibrator in your boipucci do all the work while reading

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So what exactly is wrong with NAP?
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nap is bad because i dodn't want sleeep
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>>9300003
it's completely autistic and also low test and gay

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Hey, it's actually pretty good, thanks for making me fall for the meme, /lit/friends :)
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Anybody read The Crying of Lot 49? How is it?
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>>9299920
I don't know.
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>>9299917
How far you into it OP? The first half of Part 2 is my favourite.

>>9299920
I love it. First time I read it was mindblowing but the second time I had just come from GR so it wasn't as powerful, but still good.

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Thoughts on his work?
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I enjoyed Sons and Lovers, Lady Chatterly and Women in Love in that order. I thought Rocking Horse Winner was a great short story. I also liked his essay on Moby Dick
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>>9299878
His little notes on American really are.. fun? Certainly enjoyable. What I like best about him (same holds for EMF) are the travel books-- start with Etruscan Places, then Sea and Sardania..
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>>9299878
literally who

how do i make my prose better?
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>>9299753
copy other people's writing.
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By making it less bad.
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>>9299753
You work hard. You work on one page every week, you do plenty of research, you will have this page memorised and may think of a small addition/change while walking down the street. Writing is hard work, and until you understand this your prose will be shit.

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i got 30 pages into this and while I'm enjoying the chaotic nature of the book I'm having a hard time figuring out what's going on. Should I say fuck it and read a guide or be a man and try to power through and get what there is to get by my own work?
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I don't think there's anything wrong with using guides. If one man could "get" an entire work of real lit by himself, there would be no need for entire communities of scholars dedicated to books like Ulysses. I say go for it, or whatever else helps your reading experience
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>>9299626
It wasn't worth for me to finish this book as the funny parts didn't make up for unbearable dialogue. Can't read for extended period of time until I get sick of keeping track of who is talking and constant interruptions and unfinished sentences. I know it's representing a natural conversation, but fuck me is it hard and not natural to read it. You get going and that cutting off gets to the nerves real fast.
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>>9299626
By using a guide you 1. Wont waste uour time on something you don't comprehend and 2. Will hopefully learn more about literature in the process. Reading commentaries and guides is necessary in philosophy but somehow is looked down upon to use a commentary for literary works that are sometimes as equally difficult. Secondary literature is how you get smarter, just don't use it as crutch for independent thinking.

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You guys just hate Harry Potter because it's cool to do so.
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>autists in my city in slavland are organizing a Quidditch practice
I gotta go watch this shit
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>>9299877
>watching slavs belt soccer balls at each other's heads with baseball bats
it would be fucking criminal not to .
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>>9299604
Mmm. I hesitate to think Rowling is the kind of author that makes allusions like that on purpose.

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Hi /lit/ I have found myself becoming more interested in religious stories and spirituality I wen't to a catholic high school but haven't touched a bible since then.

There are so many different versions and revisions of it, I am unsure where to look. I don't need the dumbed down american version, but then again I can't read latin.

Also is it something you can just read through? Or does it break up into stories that dont follow each other?

Or should I just put it in the trash and look for other recommendations? Thanks.
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>>9299602
How can you read anything without at least familiarity with the bible?

>Also is it something you can just read through? Or does it break up into stories that dont follow each other?

It's a hodge podge. It doesn't follow single plot line.

Get your hands on a study bible. One of the easiest mistakes to make is getting a cheap/free bible that has nothing to help you make sense of it. A study bible will help you by explaining the who, what, when, etc. of each book before you start reading it.

That way you know things like the book of Philemon was a letter by Paul written to an individual, while Acts is a story about the early church (and particular St. Paul) written by Luke as part of his writing Luke-Acts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke%E2%80%93Acts

A normal generic bible will just present the books without mentioning how and when they appeared.
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>>9299660
Like I said, I wen't to a catholic school so I have some familiarity with it.

Being an angsty teen I wrote it all off as boring and was never interested.

But as I've gotten older I've become more interested in the stories and the deeper meanings behind them.

I'll look into seeing if I can find a good study bible. Thanks for the rec.
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>>9299602
>I wen't

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