Kerouac is the greatest 20th century American writer. What say you ?
On the Road didn't age well tbqh. I get that it may have been really hip and fresh when it was released in the 50s, but to a modern mind it reads like the online travel blog of some annoying hipster dipshit.
>>9329249
not even close to being a contender.
How do I get into William Faulkner?
I started with his short stories thinking they would be easier to digest before diving into his novels but I'm just scratching my head here.
The Southern accents are annoying as fuck, his sentences have such a weird structure and go on forever so that by the time you're at the end of one you forget what the original point was supposed to be, his characters are one dimensional, nothing happens in his stories, and every time I get to the end of one I say "Why would anyone ever take hours out of their life to write a story about a guy hiccuping? Is this what passed as comedy in the 20s?"
I just don't get it. And I'm usually able to tell what an author was trying to go for even if I may not be a fan of their style, but Faulkner is a mystery to me so far.
If I don't like his short stories, should I not even attempt the novels?
Please help me not to be a turbo pleb.
you don't have to read Faulker to not be a pleb. I enjoyed Faulker but I don't think he's absolutely required reading
life is too short to read things you don't really want to
maybe go read something else and then come back to Faulker in a year or two and see if you feel any better
>>9329184
Either this, or just jump headlong into The Sound and the Fury, Light in August, or Absolom, Absolom!
They're some of his most worthwhile novels, so it's worth trying to get into one of them. If it still doesn't click, just move on and maybe try again later.
>>9329109
By picking up any of his books that sound interesting to you and reading them. Please consider killing yourself before making shit threads like this. Thanks. Faggot.
Any thought on this? Anyone read this? Started reading it a few days ago about 70% of the book is read so far. I find it hard to find motivation to do anything at this moment since reading.
Please share your experiences, if you have read it.
Pic related, the book in question.
self bump
>>9328800
I've read it and I found it a bit scary at first, but ultimately comforting, knowing that I'm not the only one who's felt that life kinda sucks.
Read pic related for a more neutral/academic take on some of these issues. It's a redpill and it won't make you happy, but it might make you wiser.
And finally, I recommend Jordan Peterson, the current top meme intellectual. He'll probably set you straight.
Read Nietzsche
Just something for you guys to think about:
"When we read, another person thinks for us: we merely repeat his mental process. It is the same as the pupil, in learning to write, following with his pen the lines that have been pencilled by the teacher. Accordingly, in reading, the work of thinking is, for the greater part, done for us. This is why we are consciously relieved when we turn to reading after being occupied with our own thoughts. But, in reading, our head is, however, really only the arena of some one else’s thoughts. And so it happens that the person who reads a great deal — that is to say, almost the whole day, and recreates himself by spending the intervals in thoughtless diversion, gradually loses the ability to think for himself; just as a man who is always riding at last forgets how to walk. Such, however, is the case with many men of learning: they have read themselves stupid."
- Arthur Schopenhauer
I read it and I disagree.
Obviously Schopenhauer never read Derrida!
>>9328651
A stupid person reads in such a way. A smart person allows the other voice to be there in his consciousness, but without falling for it as if it was necessarily the truth.
Which of the great three should I start with - Iliad, Odyssey, or Aeneid?
>>9328229
Read in order you stupid fuk
the bible
Philosophically Goethe best fits me, but practically his life was pretty effin awesome too
>>9328065
>reading for plot
>>9328065
Kierkegaard & Dostoevsky
He supports, or advocates for an -ism.
Who does?
>>9328007
Christianity isn't an ism
If I were you I would lead him on for a few months, all the while fucking his best friend on the side
what are some good books about parents whose children commit suicide?
children as in their offspring. any age is fine. either fiction or nonfiction.
>>9327751
>Pet Semetary
Gabe wanted to get rekt.
>>9327751
my diary desu
>>9327966
>not your father's diary desu
you blew it senpai
There's Houellebecq and then there's everyone else.
>>9327553
>Houellebecq
>Girl
Really makes you think.
>>9327553
The Possibility of an Island is one of my favorites. He's definitely slept on as an artistic genius.
>>9327553
Not an argument.
What's lit/ consensus on namedroping? Is it good, bad, ok?
As Tolstoy once said, 'It's the best, my nigga.'
I find it really shallow.
Men do it because they're jealous of other peoples lives.
Women do it because they're old.
I mean in Art in general
Recent purchases
>>9327062
+1 on that barthelme and oxford edition of lear.
oxford editions are the best that ive seen with notes, commentary, and scholarship.
Prose Edda
The Life of Cesare Borgia by Sabatini
The Urantia Book
Considering buying this:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014FVX8US/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=266KEO0EOVZFC&coliid=I1Z5NFVDH0ZJNR
>Jean Baudrillard: The Defence of the Real by Rex Butler
>>9327062
>being used books
What does /lit/ make of Jane Austen? I know shes been made into something of a cringe pop-lit meme, but is she good anyway?
Also, how can the unwashed masses and hoards of housewives read Austen? Seems above them.
>>9327022
>how can the unwashed masses and hoards of housewives read Austen?
Because Pride and Prejudice is a commonly assigned High School reading book.
Jane Austen is alright. I appreciate her writing, but I don't think very highly of her--and there are many female writers from the 19th century that are far better.
>>9327042
who would you say surpasses her and how
>>9327042
Here is the red pill. Most women do not even read it, they watch the movie.
What are some (good) books that criticize stoicism?
my diary desu, to a certain extent
>thou shalt
nah
>>9326788
the bible
pic slaughterhouse five
i know someone with a big T little t tattoo
>tattoo
kys
Tattoos are for faggots
Why is this allowed?
>being alive
Why is this allowed?
>speaking oppressive, problematic gendered languages
Absolutely patriarchal.
Does la planta become xa plantx in trannyspeak?