I know /lit/ hates John Green's prose, but is there anything wrong with the actual contents of his stories? Why does every teen girl love him?
>>9321927
bc he writes emotionally and teenage girls are emotional beings
Because its vapid trash that women can comprehend.
>>9321927
because cereal taste better with dick cheese
Why aren't you living the Intellectual Life?
a e s t h e t I c life >
>>9321722
And how does one do that? Maybe Imalready am.
I'm living it somewhat. That means
>no job because I'm not good at hiding that I'm indifferent and eccentric
>no social circle
>the few "friends" I have are everything but intellectual, are very conform to idiotic social graces and conventions
>my family is unsupportive, vile and dumb as dogshit
If you're intellectual, that may sound good on paper, but if you aren't a grade A actor/actress pretending to be your average Joe, heh, then good luck man, good luck on not killing yourself in the end.
I found a good thread on Quora, explaining why intellectuals are universally hated and why they need to pretend to be normal and stupider than they actually are: https://www.quora.com/Why-do-some-people-dislike-smart-people
Could anyone recommend some short stories/essays on boredom/procrastination/ennui as the primary topic? Inb4 Bartleby
my diary desu
i can recommend a novel
the pale king by dfw
>>9321708
Bartleby wasn't bored...
>it's a doorstopper by some mid-level American writer living in early-mid 20th century
fucking yawn, honestly
how big are the egos of these middle class dickheads to think their metropolitian/suburban ramblings are worth so much time
Fuck off.
>>9321692
I can't name any authors from the 20th century
Maybe they just wanted to write and are indifferent to how you feel lad. Takes a lot to get a doorstopper published, typically prior success. A nigga doesn't owe you anything. You don't owe a nigga any time to read it. This is why I tell people to just drop shit they're not enjoying.
Do you mind providing some examples
>>9321701
Me neither. I only read from the 21st. Unironically.
Who is America's foremost prose stylist?
>>9321481
tossup between:
joe mcelroy
me
john green
>>9321481
Why do you keep posting this thread. Fuck off.
>>9321481
he is really bloated
i guess that explains his last name ;)))))))))))))
Excluding Russia, why is there so little notable literature from Eastern Europe?
>>9321291
Because the Swedes destroyed like two thirds of the archives and libraries in Poland which robbed the world of nearly three centuries of Polish literary tradition, as most of the books and manuscripts destroyed were never translated or printed outside of the commonwealth.
They also stole hundreds of paintings, looted every major museum and palace, stealing everything from the artworks to the silverware, even the carpets and furniture were ripped up and sent back to Sweden. They even stole state census and tax records, marriage records from churches. There are hundreds of looted works still displayed in Swedish museums.
I'm not joking or making this up btw.
>>9321416
You deserved it.
there are many now that are writing. why do we gain an obsession with Shakespeare and only Shakespeare in school?
there are *hundreds of countries, we focus on a select few, why? because those countries either have money or are gasping for attention.
I just finished reading pic related, and toward the end of the epilogue it spells out pretty clearly that V. (Veronica) was Sydney Stencil's mistress and Herbert Stencil's mother, and later died as the Bad Priest. Hence Herbert's obsession.
Apparently the identity of V. is still a mystery to people, though? What is there left to solve?
Also, I realize the journey/search was more important to the novel then whatever lay at the end of it. But it seems like a silly thing for people to (still) be hung up on.
v. is noone in particular
v. is the wrath of the inanimate
how are there no academic essays on Pynchon's use of animate and inanimate in V.? it's so interesting and could actually use clarification but I can find nothing
My request is simple. Name books that are about isolated, suicidal teenagers. These books can't be YA; they have to actually be good books.
>isolated suicidal teenagers
>not YA
pick one
Why should I?
>>9321053
This was my fear. I can only think of YA relating to this.
I recently purchased this translation of the Septuagint and Apocrypha; does anyone have any experiences with this version?
Also, what other works would /lit/ suggest?
>>9319728
Apocrypha isn't that good, very questionable teachings. It's nice to read for the info, but know that it was removed from the Bible for a reason
>>9319791
That's what my dad told me as well -- I am reading purely out of curiosity.
Thank you for the input; How iss the Septuagint, it is the OT in hebrew translated to Greek, correct?
>>9319791
yeah, for contingent sociohistorical reasons
Write what's on your mind.
>>9316743
I feel like I love God but I hate creation.
How funny situations are in retrospect.
Ready to die but not ready to kill myself
Greatest book ever written.
ANYONE who disagrees is a
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>>9315998
agreed
>>9315998
is this a new meme I've missed?
Never heard of it.
>novel is about "manhood"
>>9329701
You think you got a bigger file of that dog?
>novel is about coming to terms with mortality
>>9329727
>novel is a moral lesson on being kind
So what is it? In your opinion, what is the one book that everyone should read, has replay value, and is timeless enough to be the most important of all. This isn't a what's your favorite book thread. It's if a person went their whole life without reading this one book they are living an incomplete life.
Gravity's Rainbow
it says a lot about humanity
*farts*
>>9329699
The Bible ya dip.
my diary desu
Honest question.
Why do people here think you will grasp philosophy by reading their primary texts? I see a lot of new people here and they get the advice 'start with the Greeks'. This is borderline retarded: you should read books ABOUT the Greeks and their philosophy first before you delve into something as complex as Aristotle. I can't believe there are people here who read 'all' the works of Aristotle without any prior knowledge of Aristotle. They probably think they understood some of it, while in fact they do not. In the end they just read for their own ego.
>>9329671
Heck off brainlet
The primary texts have introductions and notes.
>greeks are complex
kekimus maximus
Context:
> greatly enjoy reading (atm read 2 or so books a week, yes pretty casual but i have other things I need to do as well)
> am quite picky, only really enjoy fantasy sci-fi and military fic or non fic
> always read, gamed and watched movies/tv to experience shit I can't irl
> have always read for enjoyment aside from a few cases
> read for plot and characters
Do you guys enjoy reading your greek philosophy or is it just a boring analytical exercise?
Redpill me, is reading just meant to be a chore?
Aristophanes was funny. But I like lowbrow humor and slapstick, so it might be not for everyone
>>9329497
>redpill me on not reading for plot
Why? Reading for plot is perfectly fine.
Even 'high brow' novels can be read for plot.
If you're happy with what your are reading, then why would you come on 4chan and change just because someone you don't know calls you a pleb?
Would I say read some more 'lit approved' books. Sure. But don't be like the guys here who do nothing but read the canon (or least the spark notes) and then act like they are the smartest men in the world.
A well read man is usually not a well experienced one.
>>9329529
It was such a meme I thought there might be something I was missing.