What books should I read if I want to learn how to write "plain good stories". I'm wanting to improve my writing for comics (and short 10-15 minute long animations)?
All I know of is Joseph Campbell's Hero with a Thousand Faces and Strunk's Elements of Style.
>>9333233
My current "safe" route is the "accelerating pendulum" template, that is: where you picture the morale of protagonist on one end and the antagonist's morale on the other; the pendulum swings gently from side-to-side from motionless rest with an increasing arc in swing from one side to another.
e.g.: The villain makes a small gain, the hero makes a slightly larger gain, the villain makes a larger gain, then when all seems lost the hero makes an even larger gain and overcomes the villain. It's important to note that along the way, there has to be careful attention to what is explained in advance to the reader so the final payoff can feel like a rewarding surprise instead of a highly telegraphed motion seen from miles away. I.e.: If the heroes spend three minutes in the middle of an episode explaining a pincer attack in advance, the audience probably expects it to fail since it wouldn't be rewarding if "everything went according to plan". It's the same structure
Yes, the above approach is formulaic, but it's a good go-to as a starting point.
learn to address your concerns indirectly, because nobody likes to be lectured or preached to.
>>9333390
Not sure what you mean.
I recently started reading and basically just read Murakami. Where do I go from here?
>>9333221
To something good
>>9333221
That's a strange question. Just follow your nose. There's not some kind of standard route to follow given the first author a person has read.
>>9333221
>Where do I go from here?
From Murakami, the only way is up.
What are some books about feeling like a cog in a machine?
I don't mean to sound edgy, but that's just the best way I can put it. Books about hating your job and the like.
I wrote a short story about that, but it sucks
A lot of Houellebecq's stuff is pretty good for that. It's basically like the quiet angst of post-1968 consumer shit liberal democratic capitalism culture where everyone's a middle manager whose life subtly sucks.
So I really don't have much clue what college I want to apply to. I'm an English major and I have good grades and everything but don't know exactly how to do my research. Where can I start?
What're your thoughts /lit/ ?
>>9333140
>I'm an English major
How are you an English major if you're not in college yet? Are you switching schools?
>>9333140
go to a guidance counselor or something. you really shouldn't take advice like this from 4chan.
but if you're this uncertain about college (it seems like you don't even understand how it works, since you already seem to think you're an English major when you haven't been accepted anywhere let alone even applied) you really should not be going at all. wait until you have a really good reason to go, and you really know what you want to take, and what school to study at.
but again, go to your guidance counselor or talk to a teacher or somebody who knows what they're talking about and has actually done something with their life and isn't retarded.
Hello /lit/. I wanted to start reading some greek philosophers but don't know where to start. I prefer practical philosophical books. Which books would you recommend to a newbie?
>>9333133
start with (pic related) the texts of early greek philosophy. You can find both volumes free at http://gen.lib.rus.ec
>>9333133
Start with the best, then read the rest.
Silence leaves to much space for my thoughts to wonder. I work/focus/read better with a background, be it opening the door of my office, working in a cafe/bar or some muzak.
Give me good reading music /lit/
*wander
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-ZVkESecXk
gotcha there pal ;)
for me, it's anything that's instrumental. Any kind of singing is really distracting. I usually stick to some instrumental hip-hop (Nujabes etc.)
Poetry is the art of bravery.
The art of expressing your true feelings, no matter the shame, and trying to make other people feel your feelings and sympathize. You get me?
Bump. Tell me I'm right.
This board sucks.
Poety is a dead, useless artform for pretentious faggots who have no talent for visual arts or music
> buy a 'classic' work of fiction
> read the intro
> it spoils the entire plot of the book for you
Every fucking time.
>>9333020
>never learns from his mistake and keep reading the intro
well what did you expect you mong
>>9333020
>write a classic work of fiction
>plot is spoiled since you came up with it
what the FUCK
>>9333027
My OCD compels me to start from the beginning and read every page.
The name was Khazad-dûm and it was renamed Moria, which translates to "black pit", after the dwarf left because of the Balrog.
So... title.
because eagles. now shut up.
I don't remember the context but is it possible that whoever read the he inscription just translated it to Moria since thay was a more comon name?
Because tolkien is the god of plot holes.
http://trib.al/uWlo8vU
Is there any hope? Are our universities too far gone? Will literature survive?
>>9332897
hope is an invention of mankind for the disenfranchisement of the powerful in favor of the weak.
>>9332897
I just think these sort of ephemeral trends have always existed in academia (just check out Erich Fromm)- Muslims especially just now are in the hot seat of influence that Jews were a few years ago give or take a score, and so their insipid (and as you can see, not really very rigorous workloads or achievements) agendas are touted for a second and then they're tossed aside with the millions of other top 20 school grads that have accomplished nothing.
t. a middle eastern attending a top 20
I don't see the problem. Reading the article makes it seem like this kid is pretty stacked for volunteer work. Probably has a good GPA and SAT score too. Are you this upset that a brown person is doing better than you could ever hope to do?
Isnt the whole thing just a Kafka ripoff though? What am I missing?
>>9332892
are we talking about the movie or the book? Either way there are better pieces by Abe and Teshigahara
It's like Kafka but better and more concise.
>>9333492
No there aren't.
>>9332892
I can understand why he is called the Japanese Kafka, though I believe the similarities to be pretty superficial. Both writers have a somewhat understated way of describing bizarre yet somehow also familiar events. That's pretty much where any similarities end though.
Kafka is the master of polyvalence in literature where by contrast Abe-in Woman in the Dunes anyway-is quite clearly not polyvalent. The metaphors are fairly obvious. His talk of spiritual rape, of the main characters insect hobby, of the watch tower are all pretty straight forward. Kafka's power comes from his mystery.
The lack of mystery in Abe renders his stories quite different from Kafka's. With Kafka you are never really sure as to what the "point" is. It's an important part of that Kafkaesque weirdness about them. You do know with Abe, thus making his books a very different set of creatures.
If you really wanted to you could do a rigid and single minded reading of something like The Trial and compare it to Woman in the Dunes. But to do so is only to reduce Kafka to a single of facet of his many faced oeuvre.
Considering all the themes present in Woman in the Dunes I see a greater closeness to writers like Camus (though not stylistically) than Kafka.
There are clear objective morals we can call "universal".
Yay or nay?
>>9332885
no, only a retard will say the contrary
>>9332885
which morals would you consider universal
>>9332885
yes, only a moron would say otherwise.
1° English Shakespeare Milton Chaucer Keats Shelley Wordsworth Richardson Austen Blake Defoe Sterne Browning Eliot Dickens Hume Carroll Woolf Conrad Wilde
1° France Flaubert Proust Montaigne Moliere Hugo Stendhal Balzac Rabelais Racine Baudelaire Rimbaud Zola Lautreamont Mallarme Nerval Valerie La fontaine Pascal Celine
2° Italy Dante Petrarca Lucrecio Leopardi Ovidio Ariosto Torquato San Agustín Boccaccio Manzoni Pirandello Gadda Maquiavelo
3° Russia Tolstoi Chekov Dostoievsky Pushkin Turgeniev Gogol
4° US Whitman Melville Dickinson Stevens Crane James Emerson Twain Hawthorne Faulkner Eliot
5° Grace Homer Esquilo Sofocles Euripides Aristofanes Plato
6° Germany Goethe Mann Schiller Holderlin Schopenhauer Nietzsche Kierkegaard Broch Bretch
7° Spain Cervantes Vega Quevedo Góngora De la cruz Luis de león De la barca
8° Ireland Joyce Pope Swift Yeats Beckett
9° Portuguese Camoes Queiros Pessoa Saramago
??? Austria(-Hungary) Rilke Kafka Musil Hofmannsthal Zweig Bernhard Joseph roth (?) Ingeborg (?) Bachmann (?) Handke (?)
Argentina Borges
Chile Vallejo
Mexico Rulfo
Guatemala Asturias
Cuba Lezama lima
>>9332882
*Austria(-Hungary) Freud
I concur.
>>9332882
awful
shows zero understanding of literature
spend more time reading and less time on wikipedia
Lets try something new.
Post your favorite male and female character from Greco-Roman mythology and why.
>>9332870
Oh there's so many to pick from tho
Kronos / Aphrodite
Kronos because he's a very weird and challenging character. He's considered worse than Zeus, and yet Man experienced the Golden Age under his rule. He represents time and immaturity: nostalgia.
Aphrodite because of her weird origin story and because of her overall aesthetic contributions. She's older than Zeus, maybe more powerful and manipulative than he is as well despite her fealty to him. Is surprisingly really dynamic in the Iliad too.
>>9332870
Glycon
Cuz its a snake with blonde hair
>>9333354
Go back to bed Alan.
>tfw my IQ is literally off the charts
Feels good desu