What are some other good math-based philosophers?
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Russell
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>>9348832
nigger just fucking read Frege through Putnam you wont understand em unless you read in order you fucking faggot
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>>9348832
Albert Lautman
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>It was the day my grandmother exploded
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riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend
of bay, brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to
Howth Castle and Environs.
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>>9348474
>It was starting to end, after what seemed most of eternity to me.
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The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
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Have you ever acutely felt the ebb and flow of time, /lit/?
What are some novels that capture that feeling? I know Proust is the obvious answer, but I feel he's not the only one. Speaking for myself, when I was reading The Book of the New Sun, I could really feel the slow passage of hours and days in Severian's journey.
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Yes, most especially in Sebald's The Rings of Saturn
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>>9348422
Just look at a mountain bro (unironically)
Just look at stars bro (unironically)
Also read The Tartar Steppe by Buzzati (of course, unironically)
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>>9348422
The Magic Mountain
The Sound and The Fury
The Waves
Malone Dies
TS Eliot's poetry
Actually, Proust (whom I haven't read) wasn't the only novelist to capture this. Many if not most authors associated with modernism were preoccupied with the perception of time.
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Relativism versus Objectivism
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Any essays, journals or books on Relativism/Objectivism that come to mind? Do I need to know about Hume and Descartes for this sort of discussion? I know /lit/ seems to be very anti-scientism, but can you help me understand this from a point other than "Read KJV Bibble"?
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What the fuck is with the sudden surge of interest in Nick Land?
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>>9348406
It's just a meme I saved, and picked randomly. Please answer my question, fag.
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Am I a pleb for not liking Charles Dickens?
His works just are so fucking dry and long winded and the whole Victorian aesthetic just pisses me the fuck off for some reason.
It's not that I can't handle this era of english literature, Moby-Dick was a delight to read.
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>>9347824
Melville didn't come from the same culture/"era" of literature, because, you know, America was never ruled by Queen Victoria.
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Charles Dickens is trash, don't worry about it.
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Only fags like DICKens.
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What is /lit/ opinion about this book?
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>>9347616
cover is too derivate of a clockwork orange
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>>9347616
First book was good, second was utter bullshit.
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>>9347626
Exists a second book?
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Can someone redpill me on Chekhov? I'm desperate.
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Life in russia is sad
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>>9347526
bump for interest
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Sorry, too good, impervious to redpill. sorry.
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give me your best caribbean /lit/ suggestions
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>>9347522
a brief history of seven killings
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glissant
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>>9347522
The first part of Mason and dixon
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Why do liberals love 1984, but have brave new world?
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hate*
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Stop spamming this shit. Also get cancer and kys. Sage.
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le tolerant left everyone.
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What is some good /lit/ on the sociology of internet memes?
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For anyone interested, here are the set of lectures on memes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXEpC5hHTRU
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>>9347091
im not
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>>9347085
bump
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is this the endgame of philosophy?
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the fact that you have managed to ask a question about those books suggests not, doesn't it?
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>>9347268
Not really. Considering that the unknown, the what's ahead, the future, what could possibly exist and be built afterwards, pose the greatest questions of all. Even if the answer is no.
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>>9347274
endgame of philosophy suggests to me that it's more or less done and there are no more moves to be made in the language game because someone has found a checkmate argument
is that what you mean?
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I'm looking for books on the value of humans from different perspectives. I.e. elucidation on questions like these:
>is a sturdy worker worth the same as a totally disabled person?
>is someone with a university degree worth the same as an analphabet?
>is a convicted criminal worth the same as somebody with a clean record?
>is a doctor who's potentially going to save other human lives worth the same as a secretary?
>is an exceptionally talented musician or a paramount scientist worth the same as an unskilled worker?
I'm not only interested in the utilitarian point of view, I'm also curious about more profound moral aspects.
>is killing a fetus the same as killing a newborn?
>why do disabled people have the right to leech off of other peoples' hard work?
>do you have the right to reproduce if the likelihood of your offspring being genetically unhealthy is high?
>is capital punishment morally justifiable?
>if we had to kill off 99% of mankind, by which criterion should we determine who the 1% is going to be? maximal utility or maximal diversity?
>is it moral for members of a society to deliberatly not reproduce and to not make use their potential to the fullest?
>how should a society best deal with deliberately inconsiderate, greedy and selfish people?
>how should a society best deal with self-destructive or self-destruction inciting individuals if this became detrimental to the society itself?
Out of these, I'm the most interested in those having to do with adding value to society (in my examples, that would be the ones with (un)educated people, the doctor, the disabled folks, and reproduction). Any recommendations? You may also answer if you think you've got an insightful answer to any of these questions.
>inb4 bible / torah / ...
I want to read something inspiring and view-changing, not blind dogmata.
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I can't help you but you have interesting questions, if you do not get good answers here unironically try askphilosophy on reddit
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>>9346500
I will try that later, thanks
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>>9346480
i'm also interested, bumping this
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Did she ever write a story that was not about infidelity?
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Write what you know. She's a woman, so.
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>>9346474
I feel like a majority of female writers write about infidelity. I wonder why...
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>>9346474
She was a housewife who wrote in her spare time. Housewives, loyal or not, have plenty of time for fantasies.
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(I tried asking this on /his/ and didn't get much luck on there.)
Why can't the general populace come to a conclusion on the exact difference between ethics and morals?
Every book I had looked at in my uni's library, every website I had scoured, and even every professor I had asked had their own spins on the difference between the two; sometimes each respective resource contradicted with other resources in its own category—the two professors I asked had pretty much the same definitions, but one said that morals are individualized whereas the other said the same thing for ethics.
It's all too confusing. So confusing, in fact, that I have to resort to asking 4chan.
Of my understanding so far, ethics are empirical rules of conduct that dictate how an individual should behave within a specific group or culture, and morals are individualized principles that determine how a person differentiates between what is right and what is wrong.
I don't understand why there is so much discrepancy when their word origins pretty much cement their definitions: "Ethos" is Greek for "character," and "Mos" is Latin for "custom."
At this point, I don't even care whether or not I am right, I just want to understand why there isn't a concrete definition.
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>>9346460
>"Ethos" is Greek for "character," and "Mos" is Latin for "custom."
That actually seems to be the opposite of what you describe though.
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>>9346460
Kant explains the difference quite well. In fact he's the only source you should look at.
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Ethics are the social collective usage of morals
Morals the individual beliefs, expectations, and thoughts considered to be righteous/just.
One performs an ethical activity because it will be seen as morally just in the eyes of the society it takes place in. One performs a moral activity because it is only just for that particular individual.
A better example would be a moral and ethical dilemma. An example of a moral dilemma would be stealing bread to keep one's mother from starving. An example of an ethical dilemma would be assisted suicide (to kill is bad but when one wants to die, is it bad?). The moral dilemma is centralized to a particular, individual case while as ethics are political, sociocultural, and a bit more philosophical in its complexities.
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>be a fucking genius
>contribute to various fields of mathematics and physics
>come up with one of the most retarded/easily debunked ideas on the subject of religion
How is it possible?
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>>9346310
Autism.
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Low barrier of entry. People like Liebniz being called a polymath is a joke. Everyone comes up with kinetic energy, calculus, and can be a practicing lawyer and one of the most important philosophers of his century.
Me, I'm just lazy.
What's wrong with the Wager by the way. Seems good.
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Enlightenment arguments in favor of Christianity generally tend to be retarded. Descartes is retarded on this subject too. They're not really worth bothering with, just skip to the Romantic period and read John Henry Newman.