What's your major, /lit/?
How was your college experience?
Are you pursuing a career in academia?
>>9351727
computer science, i never leave the house except for classes, no
>>9351727
>tfw too stupid and poor to go to school even thought its your dream
Nothing at the moment, if I get into academia I will major in philosophy or other McDonalds-employ-core major
Is pragmatism the endgame philosophy? Like, not the one that will 'solve it' but the one that will get rid of your need for it.
sure wiggy
>>9351567
There's nothing to "solve"
>>9351581
i know that but philosophers dont.
I got this used book for 10 bucks at a flea market, I haven't read the first one tho but I believe the story is pretty similar to the film version.
Should I start reading this and skip the first novel? Am I missing too much?
>>9351325
If you want to get the most out of it, I'd read the first one. The first book had a different ending from the movie (if I remember correctly), and I think that plays a bit into the second book.
Also, $10 is a lot for a book nowadays. Got mine for $1-2 at a thrift store.
>>9351366
The 2010 book is a sequel to the 2001 movie, not the book.
>>9351325
I am also considering reading the Odyssey series, and I've been looking into this in a general way.
A local, GOOD sci-fi bookstore has 2061 and 3001 in hardback at decent prices; I may cop these despite not having the first two installments in book form.
>>9351366
>only cheap prose fiction paperbacks are books
>there are no other types of books
>>9351521
>>9351366
I did read 2001 just once, almost 20 years ago. The one big difference that registers with me from book to film is the simple fact that in the book, they go to Saturn, while in the movie, they just go to Jupiter (also depicted in the 2010 movie of course). So what the latter poster is saying makes sense to me, despite not having actually /read/ 2010...
Because I recently did a close watch of 2010, and I did find a copy of 2010 in another bookstore and flipped through it. The few pages I flipped through indicated that the film adaptation is a /very/ close adaptation of the Clarke text. I looked up the scene where the Bob Balaban character warns the others that HAL will be curious about their abrupt change of plans. "what do you want me to tell him?" etc. This is exactly like the movie.
As for 2001, it was an interesting collab. The first piece of actual media to be released in the whole media property was the /Kubrick film/ itself, which of course is the only thing that most people care about. Clarke did his own variation on same theme, released contemporaneously, just a bit later.
Why each fucking book about opiate abuse instead of driving me away from them makes me want to get into them even more?
Because you're a narcissist and think your opium dreams will be interesting. He whose talk is of Infinite Jest memes will dream of Infinite Jest memes, while the Opium Eater boasteth himself to be a philosopher.
>>9351233
I don't, I don't expect any dreams.
I just see that opiates are the only option for actual hedonism.
>>9351243
>I just see that opiates are the only option
spooky
after you made your way through the major guys one by one up until modern times, did you do it all over again, filling in gaps, or did you just revisit the stuff you really liked? or did you just move on from philosophy?
>>9351111
You move on to the obscure philosophers
if you dont reread at least one plato dialogue daily ur doing it wrong
Did Pynchon publish any non-fiction or essays? I read his introduction to Slow Learner and liked it a hell of a lot better than the contents.
I've read GR, The Crying of Lot 49, and V. as well
>>9351018
He wrote a few New York Times articles, and wrote the liner notes for a Spike Jonze album and an obscure 90s indie rock band.
>>9351018
He wrote this glowing review of Love in the Time of Cholera.
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/04/10/books/the-heart-s-eternal-vow.html
>>9351058
Cute
Philosophers who are more right than Slaughterdyke
I'll start
>>9350871
Who can top that, anon? I take it you like P.S....
>>9350871
>that alexander story
always brings a smile to my face
Doesn't Sloterdijk basically praise Diogenes?
》道可道非常道
》名可名非常名
What did he mean by this?
你们可以应答吗?你们在哪儿?应答吧!
>>9350731
你能说道的道不是常恒不变的道
你能说道的名字不是常恒不变的名字
I'm looking for something without any real world struggles, but just a quiet introspection on thought and feeling.
hamsun - pan is about a hermit, but it gets dramatic towards end
hölderlin - hyperion is an epistolary novel that focuses almost entirely on inner happenings
i also would like to know which modern authors pursue this ideal
My Struggle.
Read the 1805 edition of Wordsworth's Prelude, whose birthday it is today. Happy Birthday, William.
I want to read more of N-chan. Only read geneology of morals. Which is next? I heard Zarathustra is his masterwork.
Pic semi related
>>9350565
Plato
>>9350565
Read Beyond Good and Evil first, then reread the Geneaology and then reread BGE (if you have thought about what you were reading the first time, the rereading sessions will be easy and fluid, if not entertaining and at times exhilerating and ecstatic).
Then read Thus Spoke Sarathustra.
Ecce Homo's basic get your life together shit. Do that before the rest.
is there any modern philosophy written in the style of say, nietzsche? not content-wise, but aesthetically. not academically narrow in scope, but not dumbed down pop psychology. i know thus spoke zarathustra is a novel, but it reads very different even from highly philosophical fiction like dosto.
i guess some of gass's non fiction feels like this, and adam phillips sometimes too. anyone else got anything good?
>>9350561
Derrida, to some extent.
>>9350561
Deleuze.
The first time it will be frustrating, since you costantly have to learn new fairly complex definitions. Once youget accostumed to those his writing style becomes charming and truly modern, it's a work of art really.
>>9350617
Any pointers? Like some common sense definitions for all the novel concepts they coin, like the Body Without Organs, etc.? Im trying to read Anti Oedipus, but it's a bitch so far. Can't put it out of my mind either, tho.
Which authors deal with the question of living life even though it feels meaningless?
Are they convincing? Will they give my life meaning?
>>9350400
The dream of a ridiculous man
>>9350400
The Stranger and Camus is the obvious answer. Skylark if you consider thatuglinessremoves meaning from someone's life.
Perhaps an uggo can comment on that?
>>9350426
Camus made you want to live life even though it's meaningless? I mean, I understand that that's his pimary subject, but is he succesful?
Who is Abraxas?
Is the codeword for licking trap boipussi
Art
>>9350368
your true individualist German proto-fascho superpowers that awaken when you project your teen angst on all other people
So, I'm going to start listening to audio books at 3x speed. I want to be able to efficiently absorb 4-5 books a week.
Has anyone done speed listening, am I losing something of value by doing this?
Speed listening is fucking valid! The time you space out obviously is more critical since more information is missed due to the speed. Also using pauses is critical to fully comprehend what you've heard. But in any case it's certainly not bogus!
Kekles
>>9350331
Le ebin xD Now i'll be able to get an insane amount of reading done!
The reality is that someone who spends one month reading one book would likely get more out of it than someone who listens to 20 audiobeeks at 3x speed in a month.
Why was she such a garbage writer? And why did actually good writers love her work?
>>9350313
Bump; let's find out.
>>9350313
Come on /lit/, think about it.
Becuase they are more inspired by her gawthic, and romantic, tone and world - which they incorporate in their own writing.