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Wait, you bought a shitload of poetry collections without even knowing if you'll like it?
Just buy Norton Anthology and use it as a guide then.

>>9354547
They were all like 4 dollars with free shipping on abebooks, so yeah it was extremely easy to start the collection. Minus the pessoa, which I already knew I loved and dropped a bit more on. As well as the rimbaud, that one I bought because I had heard of rimbaud and was very interested. The other ones were just ones I'd heard mentioned a lot and ones that I saw on some top lists, as well as one that are generally regarded as the most influential poets.

>>9354547
>Wait, you bought a shitload of poetry collections without even knowing if you'll like it?
Basically yes. I want to get into poetry. I started a shelf for it.

>>9354491
"The whole my whole life flashed before me phenomenon at the end is more like being a whitecap on the surface of the ocean, meaning that it's only at the moment you subside and start sliding back in that you're really even aware there's an ocean at all. When you're up and out there as a whitecap you might talk and act as if you know you're just a whitecap on the ocean, but deep down you don't think there's really an ocean at all. It's almost impossible."

>>9354491
It was a couple of years ago, and I was 19, and getting ready to move out of my folks’ house, and get out on my own, and one day as I was getting ready, I suddenly get this memory of my father waggling his dick in my face one time when I was a little kid. The memory comes up out of nowhere, but it is so detailed and solid-seeming, I know it is totally true. I suddenly know it really happened, and was not a dream, even though it had the same kind of bizarre weirdness to it dreams have. Here is the sudden memory. I was around 8 or 9, and I was down in the rec room by myself, after school, watching TV. My father came down and came into the rec room, and was standing in front of me, like between me and the TV, not saying anything, and I didn’t say anything. And, without saying anything, he took his dick out, and started kind of waggling it in my face.

I really like Another Pioneer, although I think it would have been better without the postmodern gimmick (the narrator listening to the story being told by someone in the seat in front of him on a plane, so he can't quite hear it properly). Maybe that means DFW isn't for me. But I really liked the idea of exploring the origins of a "consultant class" in a primitive society. This story doesn't seem to be as well-liked or commented on as some others in the collection (Mr Squishy, Good Old Neon, Oblivion), how does /lit/ see it?

>>9354391
Late nineteenth century Germany wasn't a liberal democracy anon, I would venture to say that Nietzsche got more flack for being as anti-anti-semitic as he was than he would for being vaguely authoritarian.

nietzsche abandoned the project of will to power you fucken mong. his working method was to write down whatever random shit came into his head and then ruthlessly edit until only the great ideas remained. he had plans to destroy his will to power manuscripts but his nazi shit sister kept and published it specifically because it made him look fascist

>>9354391
Will to Power is not a book by Nietzsche, his sister Nazified it.

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>>9354335
>pic of a faggot who uses books as status symbols
>hackneyed "canon" metaphor loaded with pretentious verbosity

Off to a great start, OP

>>9354354
>Pic of a faggot

That "faggot" is none other than me. Also, not an argument, or a topic.

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>>9354354
>"canon" metaphor
the canon in OP is not a metaphor. Unlike in pic related.

you read more. all those "how to read" books just outline what regular readers pick up through practice.

All you actually need to do is stop and think for a second while reading.
All that book will do is give questions to ask yourself while reading and some tips on general symbolism that won't work for hard literature, I guarantee you.

>>9354336
>>9354338
If it really is just a matter of "stopping and thinking" then what are literature graduates being taught? Is there not some sort of theoretical framework that allows you to analyse books in greater depth?

No.
It also doesn't have any with sentient beings.

>>9354286
So the very claim you just made doesn't mean anything?

>>9354291
>meaning of existence != meaning in a sense of etymology and semantics
>playing the word game
>considering yourself profound and witty

ISHYGDDT

you are already spooked

Is this a JoJo reference?

>>9354264
This look like a bait thread but what is HnK?

Also, why do anglo love acronyms so much?

>>9354207
iktf

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>>9354207
Iktf

>Noam Chomsky an American linguist, philosopher
>philosopher
dropped

>>9354156
You mean alien life forms?

>>9354161
Yeah life forms and cultures that we have not had had influence over or share humanistic tendencies.

For example, ORCs in LOTR also have desires, have humanoid features, have similar weaponry as men and elves. Nonetheless, they are still based on Men.

>>9354183
Stanislaw Lem is famous for his stories about alien life forms that are nothing like humans. Fiasco, Eden, and Solaris off the top of my head.
I think that in every story you will find humanoid features in other races or life-forms, as they are used as a foil or a mirror to the human race. It is in the interest of the story to let them have certain human features

To make this barbaric orc tongue at least somewhat less jarring.

i always wondered the same, giving it random explanations, until i learned the language and... well, it stopped seeming excessive or unnecessary just to fit perfectly in the english flow. but i think it remains a bit elitist cause, even if you are explained what it means, it isnt fully grasped unless you know the expression/word in its context.

i think it is a vestige from the time where french was the intellectual language of europe and every cultured man knew it.

>>9354128
Yeah man. Dumas does this a lot too, man. Fucking sang froid and shit, man.

how about neither because irony is the new sincerity

>>9354041
>DFWfw
>holy shit im becoming a literary icon
>all i need is a literary movement to accompany my icon status and they'll have entire college courses dedicated to me
>let's go with something like post-irony
>yea let's call it new sincerity

he just made up some bullshit and hoped people went along with it. his own work is dripping with irony. the closest he came to leading this movement was writing an essay iirc (been like 8 years since i read all his work).

you have to be careful with DFW because if anything his work was very insincere. the dude was ALWAYS trying to manage how he was perceived. that meant pretending to be an expert in mathematics and linguistics and omitting information where it was convenient for his audience to fill in the blank (eg. his drug use history which it's clear he wants everyone to believe is long and varied but in reality is just a couple of puffs of pot). i enjoy his writing but in many ways he's a big phony.

>>9354041
what you want is substance

>>9354016
>You got me.

To a fictional anecdote concocted by a second-rate stand-up comedian looking to self-valourise?

>>9354016
FREEBIRD!

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>need
You're not ready.

>>9354018

Give me your best stirner memes.

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>>9354022

What a cool thought

who

I don't get it.

Feels pretty damn accurate to be honest.

>>9353908
>tfw mine is 95% read and 5% intend to read
Am I just poor

>>9353944
more like a saver, assuming you only buy books when you're sure you're going to read them soon