Hey, /lit/. I want to start writing. How do I start writing?
You write.
You read.
You write and then you read.
Repeat.
Let's have a playwright thread
It's a shame /lit/ doesn't seem to read many plays when they are just as literary as any other medium.
Here are some personal recommendations:
EUGENE O'NEILL:
- The Iceman Cometh
- Long Day's Journey Into Night
- A Moon for the Misbegotten
- Mourning Becomes Electra
SAMUEL BECKETT
- Waiting for Godot
- Endgame
- Krapp's Last Tape
TENNESSEE WILLIAMS
- A Streetcar Named Desire
- Cat on a Hot Tin Roof
- The Glass Menagerie
ARTHUR MILLER
- The Crucible
- Death of a Salesman
- All My Sons
HENRIK IBSEN
- A Doll's House
- Hedda Gabler
- Ghosts
- The Master Builder
AUGUST STRINDBERG
- Miss Julie
- A Dream Play
- Röda rummet
I never really was interested in plays all that much. I only ever read Shakespeare because of school. I did really like Hamlet though.
CHRISTOPHER MARLOWE
- The Jew of Malta
- Doctor Faustus
- Tamburlaine the Great
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE
- King Lear
- As You Like It
- 1 Henry IV
- The Tempest
- Measure for Measure
CALDERÓN DE LA BARCA
- El mayor monstruo del mundo
- La vida es sueño
- El alcalde de Zalamea
SARAH KANE
- Blasted
- Cleansed
- Crave
- 4.48 Psychosis
ANTON CHEKHOV
- The Seagull
- Uncle Vanya
- Three Sisters
- The Cherry Orchard
>>9369614
has anyone gone to the theatre recently?
A Mournful Humanity
When I consider humanity, I grow mournful. What has humanity created? What is great? Glowing cities with a constant spew of toxic smog laying on the graves of once teeming ecosystems? We consider the ugly scars upon earth, buildings, as great pinnacles of human achievement. What do we busy ourselves with? Simple politics, trite disputes, and pornography. We pornographized our music, our journalism; our art. We are a carcinogenic society, living in places occupied by garbage we consider greatness and producing garbage, art focused on the catching of an eye.
I call for those who can to drain the cesspools of our “great” and “pure” society. Let nature reclaim what is rightfully hers. No longer should we adulterate the naked beauty of landscapes or the pure expression of an artist. I implore you to partake in a radical shift away from the stagnant landfill of society. Let us return to our roots, from whence we came. It is said “from ashes you were made, and to ashes you will return.” Stop being fooled into a fantasy that you are anything but ash.
>value absent perception
pseud
also the word is dust, not ashes. and read hegel to see why art is more valuable than nature
>>9369572
>humanity
>greatness
>ugliness
>achievement
>negative simplicity
>morally positive natural beauty
>radicalism
>life-denial
Spookiest post on /lit/ right now imo famalam
>Define your terms so that I may detract from the original discussion and centre on your definition providing my own definition which is no less arbitrary and then use that clarification as a manner in which to win the debate when the original debate we were having was entirely unrelated to the usage of that word
God, I wish I could kill these pseuds.
How about you stop being a faggot and "debating" people. Just talk to them so you don't have to be third hand belligerent in a malasian rice spice symposium.
If we're not talking about the same thing, then it's really hard to have a conversation, there's nothing wrong with defining your terms.
>>9369215
"... a Malasian rice spice symposium..."
Kek, that really got to me.
You do have to define your terms in order to properly discuss most abstract ideas.
The pseud comment seems ironic or satiric.
Must read books for every human being.
>watches clifford the big red fascist once
fuck off
>>9369177
your plan was "vote libertarian or republican" and there's still no chance of the welfare state being dismantled, now what you dumb fuck
>>9369177
Is that a list of books for every human being to avoid?
Thanks, but I knew that already.
Are there any books about recognition and being?
>>9369172
A Recognition of Being: Reconstructing Native Womanhood by Kim Anderson
>>9369190
I actually meant why people decide to recognize things that have no being in themselves as being something.
>>9369197
Mine sounds more interesting
Is postmodernism done for?
you cannot kill what is waiting at the end of the tunnel, moralist
"If any man should deny that saging and reporting non-/lit/ threads is necessary for salvation, that man is anathema."
>>9369127
that's not an argument
About to read Dubliners, what should I know before going in? Anything I should do to prepare?
>>9369114
Be prepared to be bored out of your mind. Only good story is the last one.
>>9369121
That was really not good advice at all. OP, read about Joyce's relationship with Ireland and Catholicism. Also, researching Irish nationalism and the Irish revolutionary period is a good idea. The characters in each story come to some "epiphany," usually about a stagnating Ireland. If you haven't noticed, you should read about ireland (Hell, the book is called "Dubliners"). Skim Wikipedia on these things and you'll appreciate it much better than I did my first time going through it.
>>9369222
Can you give me a quick rundown on Irish nationalism? I'm tired and this wikipedia article is putting me to sleep
i'm like really stupid. how do i be smart? i have no positive qualities like some people are book smart but not street smart i'm just dumb in every aspect of life
you're born with creativity and the kind of intelligence you're talking about, sorry. it can't be taught
>>9369060
Hopefully for you that probably means you can be a perfect wageslave.
>>9369060
read or study things you want to be knowledgeable. if Einstein or Da Vinci had been raised by wolves they wouldn't have amounted to what they were, don't listen to these faggots. you just need to practice.
unfortunately, if you didn't get a good education before puberty it will be harder to grasp further things, but it's not impossible anon! I believe in you.
Picked up this book
What am I in for?
>>9369035
It's really good, if you are interested in moral theology (and also helps if you have some notions of it) you should find it increasingly interesting with each song. However, if you don't truly care for christian thought in a certain level you may find it either boring or dense.
A goddamn treat. Highly suggest you read Aquinas along with that.
>>9369035
The greatest piece of literature of all time. You should really get the entire Divine Comedy though, and not just Inferno.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OjQA0e0UYzI
What does Chomsky think of Post Modernism?
>>9368848
wtf I hate Chomsky now
>>9369096
Why?
watch Chomsky BTFO Foucault, he has no sympathy for posturing """"""""intellectual"""""""" who fill their philosophy with nonsense to sound profound.
Despite his radical political opinions, Chomsky has a rather ideologically conservative temperament. His propositions on worker-control and other anarchist principles would hold more weight maybe 100 years ago before the collapse of western culture.
However his critique of state capitalism and imperialistic tendencies is spot on.
I'm trying to write a novel for money.
Specifically, I'm writing an ebook to be published on Amazon, and the goal is to have it earn me at least a few hundred bucks a year. I don't like compromising on art, but I like starving even less. Hence the term "potboiler."
Since I'm throwing art right out the window from day one, what matters is pleasing the crowd. Since the crowd (ebook readers) mostly consists of middle class white women in their twenties from the coasts of the USA, I will be appealing to them. I'm not daunted by this since I have an embarrassing love of horrible romantic fanfiction. But what specifically appeals to them?
Most specifically, should I write in the 1st person present, or 1st person past?
Can't believe I said specifically three times in one minute.
I can believe that this thread is getting no replies, though.
/lit/ is mostly of the Henry Darger school of literary ambition, i.e. they intend to be published after their corpse is discovered on a bed of 10,000 pages of longhand worldbuilding.
If u are starving, find a normal job. If you want to make art, make art, and make It for yourself.
>>9368699
Aka become an austistic NEET
>>9368699
I didn't choose the autodidact life, the autodidact life chose me.
how do i do this its so fucking hard
Ey yo is this book any good?
>>9368605
not as good as kenrik lama if you know whamma sayin
bumperino
>>9368610
I lol'd
>tfw I've almost finished reading my first book in 5 years
It's the Geneaology of Morals. I've read it carefully, I've took lots of notes and underlined all the parts that were focal to Nietzsche's points, and all the imagery and rethoric figures I've appreciated.
Next I'll read the Antichrist by Nietzsche and Parmenides' On Nature (both fairly light, short but dense readings).
Are you guys proud of me?
yes :)
>>9368586
No. You were supposed to start with the Greeks. You didn't understand half of what you thought you did
Are you in College?