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Why is Hamlet such a huge figure in literature? Bloom seems obsessed with him as the pinnacle of character.

What makes Hamlet the character so great?
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>>9368736
His mom's a cunt and he's edgy and autistic like me
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He's self-aware.
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He was the realest nigga

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Name one philosophical/sociological piece of work that can top this? I will provide arguments to show why any piece of work you say is not as strong or interesting.
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>>9368609
Schopenhauer's 'On Women' essay. Made me the redpilled man I am today.
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>>9368609
FUCK OFF GOONAN. No one wants to read your shitty book. I looked over the introduction and realized it was a generic shitty self help "find yourself" book that slowly devolves into oversimplistic argumentation for conservative morality.

If you fucking keep shilling this book, I will continue to insult you in every thread you post it.

It's one thing to be like "Hey guys, I wrote this book, I want to tell you about it" but its just fucking obnoxious when you waltz in here pretending you're a prophet of the second coming of christ. At least have the decenty to not talk about yourself in the third person, you fucking moron.
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>>9368618
I really like that piece, but it facilitates men and women to think that women have no accountability, therefore it is always men's fault when women do something wrong and women are free to do as they please. The Foundation advocates for men to step up and curb the destructiveness of women in any way they can, but also makes it clear that women must use their brains and at least partially understand that destructive behavior is destructive.

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I have to read this for a class, is it any good?
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Read it and find out, you tool.
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>the poet Claudia Rankine’s new volume, her fifth, is “Citizen: An American Lyric” (Graywolf), a book-length poem about race and the imagination. Rankine has called it an attempt to “pull the lyric back into its realities.” Those realities include the acts of everyday racism—remarks, glances, implied judgments—that flourish in an environment where more explicit acts of discrimination have been outlawed.

I would sparknotes this one OP.
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>>9368528
do you like modern poetry? I think its a great book, I really liked it but I like contemporary poetry.

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Heinlein worth reading? I really want to get into individualist authors?...
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He's really fun to read, just don't expect anything groundbreaking.
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I liked stranger in a strange land
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>>9368309
My favorite Heinlein novel is The moon is a harsh mistress

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What's /lit/'s thoughts on Anna Karenina?? It's my first russian novel and i'm really enjoying it so far.

Tolstoi just has a way with the caracters it's really nice.
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>>9368291
I'm not sure why no one is posting in your thread.

Personally, I haven't read Anna Karenina, yet. I recently purchased it, (at a bookstore in my area I didn't even know about) and I will be reading it after I finish Crime & Punishment.

I loved War & Peace though; Tolstoy really does have a fascinating way of developing characters, and to me he never seems to become monotonous. His prose is easy to follow along with, and overall he is a great way to get into Russian Literature.

After you finish Anna Karenina I would suggest reading War & Peace, preferably translated by Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky; there are plenty of footnotes and information to guide you along.
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>>9369153
http://ospidillo-blog.blogspot.com/2011/02/which-translation-of-war-and-peace.html

This may also help you in your decision on finding a good translation.
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>>9368291
It's a wonderful book. Love how Levin and Anna's stories draw closer together as the narration progresses. Until..

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Would you read Grimes book /lit/?
http://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/35561/1/grimes-is-writing-a-novel
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Yes. Flawed though it may be I am sure it will be nothing short of a classic (indeed, its flaws will only contribute to that)
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>>9367847
no
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>>9367847
Is this fried grimes?

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His books seem to be rated very highly without much critique if at all.
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>>9367121
I was interested in LessWrong back in the day and came to the conclusion that it was a cult (I also viewed the conversations they had there on whether it was a cult and why outsiders might think that, and came away with the same conclusion despite their protestations).

Yudkowsky himself strikes me as someone deeply resentful of academic credentials because he does not have them, but has a strong desire to be a world-moving intellectual figure.

I can't speak as much to the content, because I've never been into game theory or Bayesian stuff or utilitarian ethics. I also hear that things have changed in more recent years and he doesn't contribute so actively anymore. Apparently he runs sort of institute that takes donations with the promise of making sure that AI is 'friendly' when the singularity 'happens,' and the institute sees itself as literally on a mission to save the world. Again, typical cult stuff.
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>>9367121
I'm only familiar with LessWrong because of the Roko's Basilisk stuff, which is a fairly interesting idea, but not what Yudkowski was hoping would come out of his project.

>>9368917
Doesn't seem too cult like to me, I don't know how much control he exerts over the members daily life. This tends to be the definition of cult that matters to me anyway, the term "High Control Cult" or "High Demand Cult" is often used to distinguish something like the average protestant church from something like The Watchtower Society or Scientology.

Of course this distinction is just a matter of convention. The average protestant church doesn't exert any excessive control over it's members because average christianity is perfectly in sync with secular humanism and the division of church and state.

Similarly, all governments could be considered high control cults except for the most disorganized and distant ones that fail to shape the daily lives of their citizens.
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>>9368952
>I don't know how much control he exerts over the members daily life.

This was a while ago, but I remember learning that:

-They encourage donation to a pseudo-academic organization that seems to exist for the purpose of money laundering (they publish various non-peer-reviewed papers and it's unclear where the money goes other than to their members' 'costs of living,' which seems to mean they pocket it):

https://intelligence.org

-They claim that such donations are morally imperative because the organization seeks to save the world from malevolent AI

-There is a weird thrust toward non-traditional sexual practices in the community, especially polyamory (which is seen as 'optimal' or whatever), and many of its higher-ranking members seemed to engage in these practices with other members of the community and even while living with them, and it seemed that Yudkowsky himself had used his status to trawl for sex with other 'rationalists'

-There is a bizarre focus in their philosophy and thought experiments on torture, control, etc., and insinuations that people who do not agree with highly debatable or even intuitively repugnant conclusions (it's more optimal to torture people than to have millions of people get a speck of dust in their eye, etc.) are behaving irrationally

-They have a group of writings called The Sequences, which someone is supposed to read to become 'initiated,' and which seem to bear some similarity to levels of cult indoctrination or increasing tiers of esoteric dogma (those who disagree with them are told to go read them, or if they have, to get smarter until they can understand them)

-The community is awash in its own jargon, much of which recapitulates issues that already have commonsense or technical terminology assigned to them – despite a long-standing hatred of academic philosophy, for example, they seem to have reinvented a good amount of mainstream academic terminology and these terms are used hermetically

-There is a cult of personality surrounding Yudkowsky himself, which as I hinted at may have led to sex things

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Does someone have a book on ethics?
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Spinoza - Ethics
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>>9367027
Ethics, by Peter Singer is a good introduction.
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The Ethics of Psychoanalysis by Jacques Lacan

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Literary confession thread
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>>9365496
I unironically hate all of you and think that you're horrible, untalented writers who don't deserve to even laugh at /r/writing
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>>9365496
Pynchon, Wallace et al are just terrible, like unbelievably bad at writing
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>>9365496
I have never read a book.

Did John Wayne died?
Did Orin fuck his mum?
Was Luria actually Avril?
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Yes
Yes
No

Next question
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I never understood why this SJW pleb was considered one of the big names on this board
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His suicide betrayed all of his "SJW" (more like latent american protestantism) leanings. It showed that his metaphysical dread reaction to the absurdity of both american banana republic capitalism and widespread hyper self-awareness peaking in his times without a moral renaissance was the true power driving his need for self-expression.

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Why is Molière considered the french Shakespear ?

He's not bad, but he can't hold a candle to other playwrights of his time, namely Corneille and Racine.
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>>9364969
because of SJW leftist destroying the west. They want us to only read black women from now on or gaymen
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He was more influential for the language itself.
He scoured the provinces at a time where most Frenchmen didn't speak french. He took plenty of words from their patois and added it to the french language. My favorite one is crétin. In savoyard, it means christian. In french, well you know
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>>9364969
C'est une question de prose, ou plutôt de finesse prosaïque, et non d'ecellence théatrale ni même artistique. Au demeurant, Molière était un artiste de talent ; ne soyons point trop sévères.

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Perhaps the very worst thing about reading through A Song of Ice and Fire is when you come to one of the bits in the series that Martin clearly wrote with his dick in his hand. He clearly has several fetishes that are /d/ tier or worse, and he weaves them into his story, sometimes subtly but oftentimes not.

Like the "Sunset found her squatting in the grass" scene. You can just imagine GRRM gradually arousing himself the further he gets into the paragraph. His fat, greasy hand begins to slide beneath his ponderous gut to the place where his shrunken fat man's dick is buried, hot and fetid. He begins to grunt in that nasally, throaty voice of his, bringing himself closer and closer to climax with each further detail of Danerys' poison-induced dysentery. At some point he has to stop writing entirely as he fully devotes himself to jerking off. At last, he climaxes slowly, and hastily finishes the paragraph before heaving himself up to go to the restroom and wipe himself off.

It's so easy to imagine it. It's kind of pathetic. At least when Pynchon inserts his fetishes he dresses them up in good prose.
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>>9364315
>her sex
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>>9364315
I came
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>>9364315
Is there any reason why you wrote 'ponderous' instead of 'heavy'?

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Post sentences from Books and othet anons try to guess it.


>it is time, Martin.
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“Better to die for my people in my own land than rule in another and suffer a lifetime of cowardly guilt.”

you will never guess it also happy birthday anon
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>>9364384
>2017
>reading genre fiction
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It reminds me too much of that playwright- some Roman poet I heard of- who got his noodle stuck in a pillory

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How's your novel coming along, /lit/?
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its shit
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>>9363830
Why?
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Struggling to get the ideas down on the page quite as well as I envisioned them but I'm getting there and it's great. Which is probably a bad sign. But I'm having a lot of fun. Which is a good sign.

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Today I was in my local bookstore and saw Pride and Prejudice in the foreig-language section. I was a little delighted by it since there are usually shitty books, but the title of this one caught my interest. But it seems to me it is more of a romance than actually the thematization of, well, pride and prejudice.

Does this book actually informative or is it just women's entertainment?
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>>9363742
>it is more of a romance

It's really not. It's a great book

>is it just women's entertainment?
Kill you'are'selve
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>>9363753
>It's really not. It's a great book
Elaborate.

>Kill you'are'selve
Hey, I can ask, don't I? I mean, I've read little while I was there and it immediately starts about a married couple and it emphasized it a touch too much, for my taste.
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pwease gois i needa answer
am about to red thru current bok so needa new educalzone materialu

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