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sup /litl,
>reading the Dune series
>find the books hard to follow at times
>prescience, hidden plots and actions
>can read books like Harry Potter, ASOIAF, Stephen King easily
is this normal? how do i get better at reading? some chapters and even the quotes at the beginning of chapters are confusing and I just read them and move on so to speak
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Read more. I don't think the Dune series is that tough.
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i am learning to speak Spanish. what are the best things written in Spanish (other than quixote i just want new things but am having a hard time finding them)
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>>9385039
read baltasar gracian
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>>9385146
you found my other thread you nigger. it is just basic fucking advice. what else is there to read including of his
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>>9385277
Kek, I only saw that thread afterwards.
I have no idea, he's the only Spaniard I have read.
>"Hey Dad, know any good books?"
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Who the fuck are you? I don't have a son
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>>9384998
The Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Trundra
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Fuck off. Just fuck right off, you little weasel shit. I know you think its HILARIOUS that I read books while you sit up in your room playing your fatuous VR quint-sensual video games. I know you laugh at me with your virtual friends. You don't even make an effort to hide it. You know what? That's fine. You live in your little virtual world away from me and your mother and we'll live in our old-fashioned world, with our silly little books and non-interactive, fully static entertainments. I really could not give two shits any more. We used to show something called respect to our parents. You don't even know how to have respect for yourself. You're lost, you're fucking dead inside, Kenneth. Now don't cry - I thought you'd transcended humanity now? I thought you were on your way to "posthumanism"? I guess all these hifalutin, toaster-fucking ideas really come to nothing when you're faced with a real interaction, don't they? Get out of my sight. Dinner's at seven
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Not really sure what to ask here.
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Okay. So, I know that this is a complete normie/plebian/cretin/brainlet/insert-your-own-insult-here question, but I can't think of any other place to ask, so fuck it.
I used to read a lot as a kid, up until around the second/third year of High School, when I started using the internet regularly for the first time. Since then, I've read one book per year, if that.
When I was a kid, I only really read kid's books, like Harry Potter, Darren Shan, you know the type.
I discovered /lit/ about a year ago, and it convinced me that I needed to get back into reading, but I immediately encountered a problem.
I've read L'Etranger, TFiOS, and re-read Philosopher's Stone without any difficulty, but I tried to read Dubliners, and The Iliad, and Nausea by Sartre, and I couldn't. I couldn't understand what was in front of me. When I tried reading Shakespeare, I failed, because I'm so under-read that my brain just couldn't process the early modern English without a translator, I wrote that off as an exceptional case, that I would come back to finish later, but I encountered the same problem when trying to read the books that I listed prior.
The more I used this board, the more I started seeing TFiOS, and Harry Potter getting eviscerated for the overly-simplistic prose, and L'Etranger getting recommended as a guide for "absolute beginners", so I've since come to the conclusion that my brain simply can't handle complex prose/unsual sentence-structure/manner of speaking. HOW THE FUCK DO I FIX THIS?
It's not like I get confused, or struggle for a second, and then I figure out what it means, my brain literally just does not register this as actual language, like I know the words individually, but they don't mesh together in an intelligible manner. I tried making a complete list of all the words in a paragraph once, and marking their probable grammatical function in their sentences, in the hopes that that would let my brain recalibrate, and I'd absorb the meaning of the paragraph as a whole, but all that did was leave me spending fifteen minutes to understand a couple of sentences.
HOW DO I RECALIBRATE MY BRAIN TO UNDERSTAND NON-LAZY PROSE? THIS IS FUCKING INFURIATING!
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>>9384910
look. just isolate yourself and practice. work your way up, and constantly challenge yourself.
plus, if you're not enjoying yourself, there's no fucking point. literature is entertainment, nothing else.
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Read The Old Man and the Sea. If you can't understand it then quit.
Why would you do something that you both suck at and don't enjoy? Are you holding on to some kind of fallacy that reading will make you smarter? Most people here are idiots despite being highly educated and reading at an "advanced" level.
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If you're having this problem I'd recommend doing something like:
>Read a chapter, try as best you can to understand it, dont try to go fast or anything
>Once you finish and didn't understand it, go read a chapter summary, and maybe an analysis of the chapter
>Go back and re-read the chapter
This should work reasonably well for any major works, especially things like the Iliad.
Over time you will start getting better at reading. Going from shit like Harry Potter to actually "challenging" writing is not something that is just like flipping a switch. It takes time and patience.
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What did you guys think of this?
https://youtu.be/_8m8cQI4DgM
Do you now love Ayn Rand?
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>>9384862
>tfw Oliver made money off of me
>only argument against egoism is muh fee-fees
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>>9384862
John Oliver is a neoliberal shill who will be sent straight to the firing squad come the day of the revolution
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Is man really the measure of all things? Was Protagoras right all along?
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kill yourself pathetic loser
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>>9384827
yep, well, until a new sentient being becomes readily apparent.
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Well, technically speaking, the measure of all things is lightspeed.
Hello /lit/, I have devised a simple system of moral philosophical categorization inspired by the Myers-Briggs test. By simply answering all four questions, you will receive your four-character type. Find your type and then categorize various authors and thinkers into the same. Through this, find new recommendations for books
>Is there objective value and/or morality or are these things pure constructs?
Objective = B, Subjective = S
>Regardless of objectivity, do you deem these values necessary to hold?
Necessary = N, Unnecessary = U
>Can living beings act altruistically or are all actions inherently selfish?
Altruistic = T, Egoist/Hedonist = G
>Is social/political hierarchy necessary for order and happiness or is it not?
Hierarchy = H, Equity = Q
If your answer TRULY lays outside of the binary answers, X can be used in place of one the two letters
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SNGH reporting in
The smart egoist knows that the enforcement morality and hierarchy are in his best interest
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Oh, and if you think the four questions can be better altered to best define a moral philosophy, please speak up
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>>9384792
SNTQ
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>Disagree with "How to Win Friends & Influence people"
I hope someone can challenge me to this. So I'm only into the 2nd chapter so far, and the things that have been said so far is mainly that you should not critizise people. "There is nothing else that kills the ambitions of a person as criticism from superiors."
Direct I would say that the last direct quote from the book is false. I have always loved being an underdog and if people told me I coulden't do something I would work hard at it to prove them wrong. At the same time, if I got to much praise I would get anxious for all the pressuare to do well that was now on me. I also know Howard Stern went so hard into Radio because of his father disgurishing words about radio and that Howard should persue another career.
Also at work I can become lazy sometimes and take longer breaks then Im allowed, but after a few weeks when I got a reprimend from my boss I stopped doing it.
So yea..?
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No bro, you are autistic
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>>9384791
>Self-help books
Why would succesful people want to share their secrets in the first place? They're just trying to make money off your gullible ass.
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To put it in simple terms for you OP.. if you tell someone they're a stupid cunt, they will remember you for that. Whether they are a stupid cunt or not is irrelevant.
Now they do not wish to help you, you can not gain anything from them.
You have burned a bridge.
Tell the same stupid cunt that you like his shirt, he'll remember that forever.
He will be more likely to help you, or you can gain something from him.
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Why do literary theoretics have such a hardon on minimalist writing?
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>>9384789
Name one minimalist writer
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who cares?
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How can a laptop be minimalist? It's practically infinite information-space on a screen.
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Why do we treat bad the people we love?
Like you know when your mom dies out of nowhere but yesterday you ignored her.
Why do we not do what we know is right?
Why do we intentionally choose to not improve ourselves?
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>>9384758
It's not that you don't know what's right, it's that you're putting no effort into what you're doing. If you really took an effort to what concerns relationships with your mom, do you think that you would end up treating her in a worse manner? You're not going to do it with a reason.
What I'm saying is that you're lazy. You know what's the right thing to do, but you're channeling no energy into accomplishing that, and this happens because you're lazy.
Your only choice at this point is not to be lazy: this requires effort and it will be unpleasant until you'll get used to it. Talk to your mom, force yourself to do it if you deep down know she deserves it: eventually you'll learn how to love her, since you already know that you love her.
The key part is aknowledging the fact that you're putting no effort into any of those aspects of your life that truly trouble you, like this one. You won't change immediatly, but if you keep this in mind at the very least you will be able to get there in the long run, gradually.
t. was a ungrateful piece of shit for my entire life, I've started seeing a therapist and this is what she told me: it made sense and I fixed my relationship with my family
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>>9384758
Because we obviously don't really want to, otherwise we would do it.
The fact is that you ignored your mom because ultimately you didn't find paying attention to her to be worth the effort.
What people really value shows through their actions, not their words.
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t. Mersault.
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So are we willing to admit that the Trojans did nothing wrong?
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>>9384725
They could have just given Helen back
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>>9384725
Hector should have poisoned Paris: he was pragmatic enough to do so, yet he decided to abide to his traditional values, at the expense of tenths of thousands of lives and his entire legacy.
These types of mindless, tradition-induced behaviours should be harshly criticized. The Trojans citizen did not deserve to perish, their overlors did.
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Is this guy to blame for the romanticized version of the medieval ages? Also what the fuck is Robin Hood doing in this?
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The only thing that is to blame in that book is that Ivanhoe did not went with best girl.
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>>9385192
Rebecca. I read this book as a child, and have never forgotten her name.
Of course he's not to blame. Some great ones by him: Kenilworth, Quentin Durward, the Heart of Midlothian.
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>>9385209
Amusingly, there is another author who wrote a book that follows up on the story and where Ivanhoe finally reunites with Rebecca.
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Recommend me some literature with waifu-tier female characters I can fawn about
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sade's justine
nothing like a virtuous orphan girl getting sodomised for 800 pages
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>>9384611
Solveig from Peer Gynt
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>>9384611
The Idiot
Anna Karenina
Jakow from under the Minsk.
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Tell me /lit/.
Jakow from under the Minsk.
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Hello there /lit/, so I've decided to stop degrading myself on the intermet and actually do something usefull for myself. So I want to ask you something.
What are the most darkest takes on the fantasy genre in literature?
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>>9384524
Gravity's Rainbow
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>>9384524
>fantasy
>dark
Heh, sorry kiddo. Around here, truth is stranger than fiction, and reality bites harder than fantasy.
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>>9384524
>do something useful
>read fantasy
Well.
YOU majored in CS and graduated with DEBT and NO JOB while CHAD majored in CLASSICS and lives on NEETBUX
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>tfw i majored in art history and i'm eating expired bread off of an upturned plastic bucket
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>>9384506
What planet are you from? I want to move there.
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>CS
>no job
Maybe if you have no pulse.