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>>9394778
The one where he wanted to fuck his own underage son

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Are any of his books as good as his arse?

>>9394782
Are you thinking of Mann?

>>9394837
>Are you thinking of Mann?

Yes...

>>9394767
Most great artists achieve the height of their game posthumously. It doesn't make it manufactured in a disengenuous sense. It just means that it takes time to realize the true power of someone's work. Work that hits home with audiences year after year generation after generation, that's special.

>>9394780
Fame not game.

>>9394780

maybe not manufactured, but i heard Shakespeare had a much more modest legacy in the 18th century

http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading/Literature_by_origin#Argentina

>>9394734
seconding this

I just read two books by Argentinians and they were both excellent. Try The Savage Detectives.

>>9394752
lm@o

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>reading genreshit

>>>/sfgg/

>>9394701
It gets much better, book 2 will grab you

>>9394621
Explain how they have done damage.

>>9394621
yeah, everyone since them

>>9394621
women and nonwhites

>>9394561
just take the redpill instead, cuck

>>9394561
Or does The Idiot just suck and it has nothing to do with my attention span? Throw me a bone here, it's been a while since I read a novel more than 50 years old.

>>9394582
Dostoevsky doesn't suck but a lot of his writing is fairly tedious. It's also 600 pages, which isn't horribly long, but if you attention span isn't great right now you might want to try something shorter.

You could try Blood Meridian, fairly brief and has some grabby bits.

>>9394492
I've never read it but it's got tits on the cover and was written by a man and that's enough in America.

>>9394492
becuase every books by white conservative males are destroyede by the SJW movement who are intent to breed out whiteness becaus they fear the white man like you and me (becuase of our intellgence,,our rationality and logic)

>>9394492
>book with a HETEROSEXUAL WHITE MAN as the protagonist

>not sexist

come on it's 2017

>>9394477
Schopenahuer's On Women
Hitler's Mein Kampf
Decline of the West
the Culture of Critique Series
Protocols of the Elders of Zion
Breivik's manifesto
My Twisted World
Gulag Archipelago
Submission

>>9394484

Thanks for the submission, we'll get back to you if any of your suggestions are accepted for inclusion.

Don't call us, we'll call you.

Some anon posted a torrent a few weeks ago which had books about general non fiction. Anyway, I'll list some of the stuff it had since some of it might interest you:
Revision and Self-editing - James Scott Bell
The McGraw-Hill Desk Reference for Editors, Writers, and Proofreaders
The Art of Fiction - John D. Gardner
The Sound on the Page
The Chicago Manual of Style
I'll also mention:
How to Write - Gertrude Stein
Schopenhauer wrote some stuff on writing.

>>9394348
I find this whole new sincerity a total non-issue. The average person still contains the same sentiments since before postmodernity.

It is bourgeois semantics.

>>9394366
Meh, a lot of people i know were beginning to get rather detached and nihilistic in the 2000s, and I see it turning around for some of my friends lately. Also has turned around tremendously in popular culture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2doZROwdte4

>>9394384
That video was pathetic. Complete misinterpretation of Wallace and embarrassing for the creator.

>hurr sincerity goooood, irony baaaaaad

>>9394343
The preservation of my culture, country and people.

That's an intellectual utopia if there ever was one. One cannot seriously consider such a project feasible since Freud. To think that one's actions could be plausibly entirely rational is a joke. At most you could varnish with a philosophical patina the actions that you are going to take for who the fuck knows what real reasons.

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My ego.

>art
>objective

kys anime /pol/ cuck

>>9394355

I'm not from /pol/ and I posted anime for attention

I could have posted something interesting but it probably would have been ignored.

>>9394281
I read Wollheim's Art and its Objects quite some time ago and remember little about it, unfortunately. What I do remember is that an investigation was made as to what constituted any art's objectivity, and that all the arts from architecture to music were subject to the investigation. If it's not what youre looking for you may want to inspect its bibliography. Sorry that I cannot honestly be of more use here.

>>9394250
I cringed 7 times just reading the first page. Had to stop here:
>I'm surprised at how many people are in IHOP at this fine hour

>>9394250

Ask yourself if any of this needed to be said.

The answer should be no.

>>9394250

I like reading about diners in the wee hours of the morning but I feel like you are being too dramatic and shifting topics too much. I also feel like you are putting too much significance into rather mundane events.

>>9394213
I hate it.

Most of the phrases are ugly and annoying, and produce unsatisfying imagery.

We sunk in the bay.
She swam to the sandbar and the drops of salt were highlighted by the sun. I’d reckon the sun saw her with a curious eye--most do. She swam I watched, with my feet wandering the bay’s floor. The day was unlike any others to I, for this day was made up of only colors. There was no sense of time, and certainly no sense of responsibility. There was blue; her eyes, the bay, the crabs, the sky, and an Adirondack chair. There was orange, if you could call it that; the sun’s soft glow, the horizon, her swimsuit, my eyes.
All else was transparent. The water had been deceiving. You look into the Chesapeake and you see nothing but what seems to be green. But you take a dive into it, you paddle it, and it reflects your face and shines your skin. Maybe that’s what fish know. Maybe that’s all they’ve known.
She got closer. She was being playful, and swiped at the water to splash me. I smiled and skidded fingers across the surface. We continued this exchange until we laughed and we dived under to pet the oysters. She called them clams.

The sun left us alone, so that we could watch its fall.
“Could this last?” she murmured under the sound of the shore. She ran her hands over her hair so that it whipped the drops and broke the silence in the tides.
“I don’t know.”

Old Peck never taught me a whole lot about romance. “Love ain’t fishing, which means it ain’t work, which means it’s a load of crap.”
So that’s what I knew. And what I didn’t know, only the fowl who flew lovelong in the day could know. He’d take me out on the bay, cruising along the shores. We’d hear the sound of the gulls--not that we had much of a choice to.
“There are natural laws laid upon this bay. To accept them is to be happy,” he’d state.

>>9394213
I'll be blunt--this won't win (unless you're not white).
It's not directly impactful enough.
A fucking lacquered fingernail?

What the hell. I always assign my poetry students prose work, and my fiction students poetry work. You're missing the narrative side.

>>9394234
how would you improve it? thank you for advice btw

Reading that gave me a headache. Please do not write until you have something to say.

Read Rilke's letters to a Young Poet

what you posted there is trite and meaningless, you're not ready for that kind of topic

>>9394108
>bad advice from a non-writer

>>9394098
> mostly am doing this as a hobby and a method of self expression

if this was true, you wouldn't post your work.
Learn meter first. Try to imitate poet's you like second. Write what you wanna write third. Everything else is too specific to the person.

A me piace un sacco Michel Tournier, voi francesi lo leggete o ve lo siete già dimenticati? Buona la baguette comunque, chiedo sempre a mamma di comprarmela

C'est en vain sur 4chan qu'une muse choisie
Vient parmi tous ces fils montrer sa poésie :
Apollon de l'anglais ne saurait approcher :
Les Muses, l'entendant, cherchent où se cacher.
Au seul son du mot « yes » se tarit le Permesse
Et du Parnasse entier on sent trop la détresse ;
Toujours plus réfractaire à des soins superflus
Pégase se morfond et ne s'envole plus.
Le lecteur est Anglais, et sa langue barbare
Du séjour d'Apollon pour toujours le sépare.
Mais plusieurs en ces lieux voudraient montrer leurs vers,
Signaler leurs efforts aux yeux de l'univers,
Pour peut-être trouver, au cours de ces échanges
Au milieu des censeurs, de sincères louanges.
C'est pourquoi dans ce fil, on forma le dessein
Qu'aux vers que l'on publie aille poser son seing
La langue pour laquelle Apollon de l'hellène
Abandonna les vers, l'épopée et la scène
Et revint inspirer du poète la voix ;
Oui, la rime a nommé le langage françois.

>>9394102
Je ne suis pas sûr de ce vous avez dit parce que je ne lis pas l'italien, mais devrais-je lire Michel Tournier? Je ne suis qu'un débutant avec la littérature française (je suis américain).