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I get that Augustine is religious but why does he have to shove his religion in our face? I read this book because I wanted original philosophical ideas, not the same old ancient nonsense about MUH SINS.
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>>9397163
>buys a biographical book that deals with the deep religiosity of a saint

>WTF??? WHERE IS MY RATIONAL PHILOSOPHY????
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>>9397163
Haha, are you for real?
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>>9397163
O Lord I hope this is bait. But here goes.

A couple points...

1 - For Augustine there is no division between the religion and the philosophical ideas. You want one, you have to take the other.

2 - You misunderstand the genre. The entire idea of a confession is a very personal account of his actions leading to the present position from which he writes. Don't pick up a book that is inherently personal and narrative and then deride it for not being a philosophical treatise. Look up his City of God or De Doctrina Christiana or any of the volumes of treatises he did write.

3 - Maybe you need a book on Augustine if you're looking for a distillation of ideas. Maybe Chadwick's Very Short Introduction? I really like Brian Stock's Augustine the Reader. Or maybe Wikipedia is more your speed.

4 - Fuck off. Show an ounce of modesty before one of the classics of western literature.

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Is he our guy?

Look at his philosophy videos
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>>9397131
>become famous as a world of warcraft troll
>fame gets to his head and what once started as an ironic "I'm the greatest" act seeps into reality
>develops massive ego and starts making shitty philosophy and science videos from facts he gets from amateur wikipedia research
>makes a horribly cringy pseudo-science sub-sam harris level philosophy
>actually unironically calls himself the smartest man in the world
>gets absolutely blown the fuck out on stream by an average physics major
>realizes how retarded he was but doesn't want to own up to it so he ends up making a video saying "haha guys it was just a prank, amirite guys?! haha right guys?!" as a way of trying to revive his dying channel where he has to make like two shitty videos a day to keep afloat

Yes, he's our guy
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>youtuber inteweb pleb
>/ourguy/

read a book you fucking mongoloid
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>>9397131

Pseudo-intellectual cult leader.

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>be 21
>had ambitions of publishing debut novel by age 24 with a Big-Four publisher to international acclaim

>be 26
>debut novella published with a tiny, regional independent press to little acclaim and only 2 ratings on Goodreads overall (one by me)

JUST
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>>9397113
Ummmm nothing comes that easy unless your father set that shit up for you in advance. Name me one successful 20 something in history who wasn't set on his way by daddy.
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Name?
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>2 ratings on Goodreads overall (one by me)
So, what did you think?

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Hi guys. Please critique my writing piece.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14vIdpj8Ng2hcKp4KgoB-6p5BEIw2TORAVQR_4nu5Tt8/edit
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Opened, saw the word "Skyrim", closed
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>>9397086
It's kinda horrible desu senpai
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Why is there so many comments

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Did he actually have reasons for saying YES to life? My assumption was always that it's sort of an axiom of his philosophy from which other things follow, not the other way around. Am I wrong?
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>>9397034
No, he doesn't give any foundation to it (he never pretends that it is not a arbitrary choice) and he's explicit about it.
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Nietzsche is essentially Bro-Philosophy
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>>9397055
what kind of axioms are you working with oh enlightened one

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So i know we love to impress people by spouting off all the fancy books we've read. But lets not live vicariously anymore.

Whats the most impressive experience you've ever had, or the most impressive thing you've done?

Ill start:
>Ive touched the horn of a still living, critically endangered white rhino.
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I ran against Trump and my dad shot JFK.
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>>9396994
I was bitten by a tiger
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>>9396994
I was almost devoured by a tiger in the rainforest

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I only wrote 400 words today.

How do I turn myself into a writing machine?

I've been trying to sketch summaries of what happens moment to moment, instead of getting bogged down chosing "le mot juste," but then I spend the rest of the day tweaking the draft in a leisurely manner. That should come after the first draft of the entire novel, not just one page. It's compulsive.
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>>9396852
Fap to straight shota
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When I'm writing, I usually write 1,200 words, almost the same amount every time despite what I want to do. Then I edit it for the rest of the day. Editing as you go - I do it, and it helps me add and remove so the story has more of a focus during the next day's 1,200 words
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>>9396856
>straight shota
>straight
the greeks, the romans, the aristocrats, and all the modern and contemporary elites would like to have a word with you

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Come read Joris-Karl Huysmans' A rebours, variously translated as "Again Nature," "Against the Grain," etc., with the /lit/ Discord!

>Its narrative concentrates almost entirely on its principal character and is mostly a catalogue of the tastes and inner life of Jean des Esseintes, an eccentric, reclusive aesthete and antihero who loathes 19th-century bourgeois society and tries to retreat into an ideal artistic world of his own creation.

You might know it (without knowing it) from Wilde's The Picture of Dorian Gray as the "Yellow Book" that precipitated Dorian's downfall, or as the obsession of the narrator in Houlllebecque's Submission, or a number of other literary works. Though little read today, A rebours' holds immense importance in influencing a myriad of writers.

We'll be starting in the next couple of days; join us here! https://discord.gg/dtBkgFK
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>>9396831

La-Bas!

For the bells are all cracked, and the daemons are no longer in need of blood, but are instead now feasting on the nests of crows.

Horror has expired, awe has been negated, and the unknown triumphs as the next novelty of technology!

Fear your contentment! And do remember the peaceful voiding after you've cummed once again in your socks, gentleman. I haven't climaxed once this week without the thought God watching me edge into oblivion....
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Anyone using an epub? Care 2 share?
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>>9396924
yep, it's pinned in the discord. two versions of two different translations.

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What novels successfully pull off telling two different stories at the same time? Do you think Godfather 2 uses the structure to its fullest potential?
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>>9396822
Off board topic, but this movie does it best.
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>>9396833
pseud rubbish
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>>9396844
Pseud opinion

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How do you go about revising your writing?

I've just realised I need to go back and re-write a couple of thousand words in order to make accomodate a character's development trajectory.

Would I be best to delet those 2,000 words and re-write them entirely, or should I go through and change small bits?
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>>9396791
Easy. Do what you want while keeping a backup of whatever you have now in a separate file.
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>>9396791
Fucking kek @ OP pic.
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>>9396791
It's easy to 'feel' when you don't like a passage and want it to be better, if you think you must then do it, but I advise you get an outsider opinion first. Revise the elements of style, then rewrite later.

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>>>/soc/25158654
I wont bump this thread, but I really can't find Kino people on /soc/ or /tv/.
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>brighton

Is the gay orgy non-negotiable?
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>>9396747
heheeheheh gay! hehehehehehe

butts! lol!
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>>9396747
I live here, it can't be helped, otherwise I can't provide for any shit also I don't have enough money to move out.

>She wasn’t doing a thing that I could see, except standing there leaning on the balcony railing, holding the universe together.
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i dont get it, but i'm only 9 years old so what do i know
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>>9396536
Hi John Green
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It sounds like something made for a "Worst Line Imaginable" contest.

Don't focus on razzle dazzle bullshit and keep to writing what's honest and true. Even where lofty, grandiose sentences succeed they don't succeed for long (meaning they fall quickly out of fashion and the next generation laughs at them).

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>/lit/ btfo
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>>9396378
Reminder that "well-read" women are a meme and you'd be better off sticking it in an illiterate waitress.
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>>9396458
Reminder that you will never truly find happiness
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>>9396378
I was lucky enough recently to be challenged by a woman to list some of the most books by women I had read, in a clearly antagonistic manner.

I of course was able to list Cather, Yourcenar, Austen, Plath, Ferrante, Moshfegh, Eliot, Austen. She listed Malala and some spic immigrants ghost written book. This argument that women use is always awful, since even though they are reading female authors, they are still reading trash.

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this is the greatest thing that any man can read. Ted Kaczynski did nothing wrong.
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>>9396363
>Ted Kaczynski did nothing wrong.
I bet every time he sees some google marketing exec talk about their AI gains he weeps.
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>>9396372
But he cannot see them. He's in prison.
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>>9396374
he has a telly in there which he rarely uses, and he reads books and probably newspapers from time to time.

Apart from Lesya Ukrainka and Taras Shevchenko (who isn't even that good to begin with unless you're an ukrainaboo), did Ukraine produce any literature of actual worth?
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>of actual worth
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>>9396224
Isn't Gogol predominantly russian though?
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>>9396224
>>9396247
He was Ukrainian, but worked in Russia and published his writings in Russia IIRC

The first manuscript of Taras Bulba was really Ukrainian-independence-focused, but he reworked it to jive with Russian political correctness

>>9396212
Shevchenko is highly praised in Ukraine mostly because he fits into the rebel-peasant national narrative myth, and in the the Ukrainian diaspora he is popular because muh nostalgia.
100% it's just because he describes the land in a way that most people remember it

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