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>>9401623
I don't think anyone on /lit/ has read it.

I once sold my mother's copy on eBay because I was embarrassed that she was reading it

>>9401628
Was it "used", anon? Did she "bend the spine", as it were?

Read the pre-socratics.

Parmenides and Heraclitus write on nature (physis).

Read the pre-socratics.

Heraclitus is the process philosophy guy, the only permanent thing is change itself, everything else is impermanent, ever-changing, ever-becoming. You find this in Asian philosophy a lot.

Read the pre-socratics.

Parmenides is the essentialist and idealist guy. Thinking itself is being. Parmenides also introduces the principle of non-contradiction, by the way.

The solution is Plato's distinction of matter and Form and to read the pre-socratics..

>>9401619
Any single book that explains them all?

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>>9401638

WWI did not take place

>>9401330
That's why I'm asking about The Great War, senpai

Guns of August seem to be well received among critics. Yay or nay?

Kierkegaard: Don Giovanni by Mozart

>>9401263
why tho, i tried reading either/or but it was too patrician for me

Weininger: Ibsen's Peer Gynt
>In 1912 German writer Dietrich Eckart adapted the play. In Eckart's version, the play became "a powerful dramatisation of nationalist and anti-semitic ideas", in which Gynt represents the superior Germanic hero, struggling against implicitly Jewish "trolls". Ralph M. Engelman says, "Eckart meant his adaptation of Peer Gynt to represent a racial allegory in which the trolls and Great Boyg represented what [Otto] Weininger conceived to be the Jewish spirit." Eckart's version was one of the best attended productions of the age with more than 600 performances in Berlin alone. Eckart later helped to found the Nazi party.

>>9401237
Nietzsche: Chopin in general, he said that he would have gladly renounced to the rest of art for him.

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Definitely not the best, but I do like the everyman's library covers.

>>9401239
I've been laughing at this for a legit 6 minutes
My stomach hurts so much

Parable of the Sower

>>9400947
Darkness at Noon
Dhalgren


http://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/great-utopian-and-dystopian-works-of-literature.html

Pirate this.

The Fat Years

You can do it. The presocratics are interesting but barely anything from them survives, so you can really only get the gist of their ideas. There are some books that give you context and all of their writings and it totals to only about 270 pages.

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Yes.

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>>9400892
Perhaps you'd like to start with Heraclitus and Parmenides. Their works are short.

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By spreading out what I write.

You probably spend too much time on one sentence. You should just write as much as you can, then revise later.

>tfw I can only write short, florid pretensions which take me a 3 words a minute

>>9400801

It's just a consequential series of short stories that have an interlinked, overarching plot. View it as several smaller stories that create a whole. Write 10x5000, and then meld into a whole.

>>9400669
Frankly no, it is a meme, and consumed ironically by a post-hipster nu-male """""intelligentsia"""". I had always thought the phrase "no discernible talent" was a meme itself until I read this book, and realized that it had neither prose nor plot merit.

most references are explained in the footnotes. it is a good book. you should read it.

these 2 haven't read it
>>9400676
>>9400793

>>9400669
it is the atlas shrugged of /lit/

>>9400550
examples? stoner?

>>9400550
answer me!

>>9400550
>normies
>having any kind of philosophical framework outside of their own self interest

Werde k1 Virus anklicken Brudi, poste mal den ersten Abschnitt

Benutzt du Discord? Würde einen Auszug lesen, aber lieber über Pastebin oder etwas vergleichbares

vonranke#6687

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>>9400539
Wie ein Toter, der es noch nicht wahrhaben will dass er tot ist, trottet eine kleine, schwarzhaarige Mumie -mehr oder weniger zielstrebig- durch den gelbgrauen Sand.

Die Körner haben sich gegenseitig im ewig währenden Trommelfeuer bereits zu feinen ,stumpfen Staubwolken zerschlagen, nun an der Mumie zerrend, drückend, versuchte sie laut heulend zum Aufgeben zu zwingen.

Immer wieder unter Schubsen und Wehen fragend, ob dieser halbtote Haufen an verbrannter Haut, hölzernen Sehnen und trocknem, dickflüssigem Blut doch nicht eine gemütliche Grabstätte sich aussuchen wollte, die sicherste existenzielle Tatsache allen Lebens endlich akzeptieren wollte?

Doch der Halbtote Haufen hatte bereits zu viel mit dem pochendem, zähen Blut zu tun, welches unter Kopfschmerzen nach einem Lösungsmittel schrie, oder mit den matten Augen welche nur noch Sterne sahen.

Deshalb gab die Mumie keinen feuchten Dreck darauf, dass sie bereits tot sein sollte.

...

Etwas weiter entfernt, in irgendeiner der vier Himmelsrichtungen, hatte eine kleine Siedlung, welche sich im Tandem mit einem durch dessen Mitte laufendem Fluss schlängelte, keine derartigen Probleme.
Diese Ortschaft, welche das Glück hat, den Unrat von nur drei weiteren in Nähe des Oberlaufs thronenden Gemeinden in seinem Wasser zu beherbergen, kann sich nicht gerade über solche ungewöhnlichen Dinge beklagen.
Die Menschen hier haben nämlich die erfreuliche Angewohnheit, sich ihrer Sitten zu besinnen - So wie es sich für Tote gehört, bleiben diejenigen die in Hayett sterben auch schön ruhig liegen.

Um ihre Nachbarn nicht plötzlich zu erschrecken.

...

In der Gemeinde Hayett, deren Architektur von schiefen, kruden Lehmbauten und dem ein oder anderen Kleinpalast dominiert ist, dort wo der Wüstenstaub mit der schwül-feuchten und von Blutsaugern durchsetzten Luft vom Ufer zusammenschlug, tummelte sich ein bunter Haufen aus Einheimischen, Händlern und Landstreichern.

Ein wohlhabender Vermieter, dem die Stechmücken oftmals lieber waren als seine eben genannten sonstigen Nachbarn, war soeben damit fertig, einen tiefen Zug aus seiner uralten Tabakpfeife zu nehmen und über die grauenvollen Drohungen eines zugesteckten Erpresserbriefes zu grübeln.
Das Wachssiegel auf dem Umschlag war ihm unbekannt, aber das leise, tönerne Knirschen des kleinen Apperates unter seinem reich geschmückten Turban erinnerte ihn daran, dass ein Vergehen gegen die Worte in diesem ominösen Brief ihn trotzdem unter die Erde bringen kann.

You need to have a fairly good grasp of the Western canon before reading Ulysses, and that includes the Odyssey.

Penguin Annotated Student's addition

>>9400406
What would the essential canon be? I imagine Homer, Virgil, Dante, Bible are all at the very least?

>>9400417
You'll never be well read enough to understand everything in Ulysses, so I recommend reading Portrait of the Artist and then jumping right in. If you like it, you will want to reread it, and you'll have a better idea of what you should read before your second read (Aristotle to better understand Stephen for example).

real life.

>>9400378
Poor contribution

>>9400364
probably read Leo Strauss I guess. I dunno. it's hard to find stuff that makes genuinely compelling arguments, & when you do find them they're usually about as cryptic as Strauss is.

I guess Strauss, Raymond Aron, and Ernest Gellner would be the three people I would recommend as being genuinely smart and making good arguments without being total fucks. Opium Of The Intellectuals is a pretty fair start I guess.

also, Hannah Arendt is hardly a conservative, but I would strongly encourage reading her for anyone interested in these topics, she's the best

Worship me.

>>9399999
Nines

>>9399997
John Green is the redpill

Bumping for interest, the once and future king is my favorite

>>9399951
he ruined it bro, you mostly will find shitty tolkien ripoff

>>9399951
I haven't read much fantasy but Steven Erikson is fantastic.