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best translations of brothers karamazov? read a lot about how p&v are shitheads, constance garnett is boring, and mcduff is the way to go- wondering if you guys have any opinions
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>>9431390
>read a lot about how p&v are shitheads
Do you mean the anti-semitism they added?
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>>9431433
oh shit really? that is super fucked
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>>9431390
Ignat Avsey if you're from an Anglo country. P&V for everyone else.

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>tfw shakespeare is still leagues better than any writer in my native language.
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>>9431339
and by this, I meant translated shakespeare.
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>>9431339
Unless you speak Ancient Greek, this is true for everyone
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>>9431339
it's okay buddy, your plebian post WW2 country only had like a hundred years to develop an academic culture, perhaps you'll get on the Anglos' level within half a millennium or so bwaahahahahahahaahahah

politicians are bad
democracy is bad
modern art is bad
Ghandi was an idiot
Christianity is neither good or bad
Christian atheism is good
cinema is bad
Marxism and communism are unequivocably good
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>>9431323
He's not wrong.

Also, he admits and recognizes that the Soviet Union's attempt at communism was a massive tragedy and failure
>cinema is bad
He doesn't think that
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>>9431323
>>9431357
Zizek is just an edgy contrarian.
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>>9431323
I agree with all of that except maybe the last one, but not the way he gets there.

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What is the big deal with this book? It wasn't bad but I didn't find it very memorable.
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>>9431298
>a graphic "novel"
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>>9431298
Why is Coelho so popular among the plebe? What is it about his work that is so compelling to the common denominator? Everywhere I go, there's a Coelho book in a shelf, and it makes me incredibly angry. People talk about Coelho's latest work like it's the next big thing, only to be forgotten in a couple of weeks. Honestly, even his name makes me incredibly angry at times.
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>>9431298
I finished this book yesterday and I hated it.
It feels like shitty life advice from your aunt who describes herself as "spiritual".
Siddharta is better, it didn't preach as much.

I'm also disappointed that the treasure was material in the end.
I expected it to be something like a realization of what he truly wants and where his place is in the world but nah he just goes back to that church he slept one night to get a huge chest of gold.


>>9431320
His stuff is easy to read.
He is a poor mans Marquez.

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As your vocabulary has expanded, do you attempt to incorporate this into your speech? Do you avoid using new and uncommon words for fear of not being understood or coming across as pretentious?
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I do this automatically and also with knowledge

Sometimes people say the wrong stuff but I don't correct them
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In the proper context, I will elevate my vocabulary. Not so much as to sound like I'm abusing a thesaurus, but so that I can be better understood.

What's that saying, intelligence is like a pocket watch, only reveal it when asked the time?
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>>9431254
>As your vocabulary has expanded, do you attempt to incorporate this into your speech?
Yes, naturally. You don't really expand your vocab without trying to use the words

>Do you avoid using new and uncommon words for fear of not being understood or coming across as pretentious?

I just avoid using awkward words, or using words in an imprecise way.

Examlpe: pliant can sort of mean flexible, but you would never say "my schedule this week is very pliant." It's just strange.

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Lads, i know, let me finish first. I also have to apologize in advance, english is not my native language.

Let me start by saying that i will be 24 years old coming next month.
How do you deal with it? When will it stop? All of us have heard this a hundred times before, same story. I have always been that silent kid, well, not exactly silent but let's just say that i was different, not by much. That kid who was popular without doing anything, not trying to be. I just knew what people wanted to hear because people are easy. When i started going to school, i noticed that the other kids where laughing and smiling a lot, they were happy. It's not that i didn't know why, i am mildly autistic, but not to such a degree. For example, them kicking the ball around without a purpose during break, was enough to make them happy for what seemed to be forever. Them seeing their parents after school when they came to pick them up, the bliss in those kids' eyes. I didn't feel it. The years went by and i kept telling myself
>''It's normal, it will go away when you get older''
>''It's normal, you are a teenager, it's the hormones. It will get better''
Well m8's, it doesn't. I will state the obvious again. Depression is just chemicals in the brain. So i tried with working out, serotonin, runners high the usual. It worked, for a while. I am good looking, 6 feet tall and i can talk to women, meaning that i never lacked in that aspect. Love, romance, sex. It's all necessary and natural and it also worked for a while. I found a good job, it make me happy, again, for a short ammount of time. I tried to live ironically, trying to blend in, it's the easiest thing to do, that's why everybody is doing it (being into pop-culture).
Switching hobbies like jackets is also something i tried. And everytime i would get REALLY into them, not just trying them out. Gettign really into music, learning the guitar, reading about classical music and the theory behind it, getting into movies, books, anime, manga, for fucks sake Lads i even got into competitive video gaming, hiking and what not. I was and still am constantly seeking for something meaningful that will last longer than just a couple of months and or years. And the only conclusion i could come up with is, starting a Family. But, what if i am still like this? What if i am still a faggot after having 3 beautiful kids (2 daughters and one son. Mideia, Semeli and narcissus) and decide that this isn't what i want from my life? I just realised how egoistic that sounds. Ok look, we are grown ups, i am not drunk, in fact, i am quite happy right now while i type this, i want a simple answer. I have been through many phases in my life, like most of you, too, that's why i ask you Lads.
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To finish, yes ive been diagnosed with depression, no i have not taken any prescription drugs, yes i tried to become gay, but all i did was make out a bit with a boy and then just got weirded out because i simply am not gay. And god damn it the older i get the less patient i am with people. We live in an age where people are considered smart for stating the obvious, like Jordan B Peterson. It's not exactly suffering, i am honestly just bored of feeling like this.


>tl;dr
Someone who has been through that, tell me what did it for you. How do i git happy and stay happy?

Of course, feel free to ask me anything.
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I think ascetics are onto something when they talk about letting go of attachment. And I don't mean hippie spirituality, I mean properly training your mind to meditate and reduce the dependence of your pleasure on objects or goals.

I'm 24 myself, got some problems involving mental nd physical health, but I've managed to become less angsty about things. Training myself to like things as they are, not worrying about how they COULD be, has helped me to become more content.
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>>9431227
Nice blog faggot.

>>>/r9k/

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Who are some authors like Kierkegaard? Can be fiction writers or philosophers, doesn't really matter
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>Can be fiction writers or philosophers, doesn't really matter
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No idea but dropping this to keep the thread alive.
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>>9431202
there aren't many

Antonio Machado started with poetry but later wrote philosophy under apocryphal names, Juan de Mairena

Fernando Pessoa is similar and wrote poetry, philosophy and a factless autobiography

As far as imagination goes and depth of thought, I would say Laurence Sterne fits the category with Tristram Shandy

And as far as Kierkegaards theological depth I have found Pascal, Thomas Browne, and Simone Weil to be very thought provoking and creative.
What strikes me most by Kierkegaard is his amazing creativity. I recently picked up a copy of his selected journals and he is brilliant even there, not to mention his formal works. Either/Or is certainly one of the best works of fiction in the world.

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In the end, who was really the delusional one?
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It was God Himself. He thought He could hide away His creations before humans such as dinosaurs and so on and so on. But we figured it out.
Sometimes God works in mysterious ways.
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the reader
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>>9431153
He dances around the subject without ever perceiving why God exists. He's an Ivan.

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What are some female supremacist books?
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dunno but my dick's out in anticipation
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>>9431103
me deary days o

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Reminder that if you don't write either longhand, or with a typewriter, you're not patrician.
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>>9430974
Or, in the case of St Alexandr here, compose long works entirely in your head before writing them down.

Signed,
Jesus H Peterson
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>>9430974
Woah! Dostoevsky used a typewriter? They had those in 19th century Russia?
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I write using speech to text on my iphone does that count?

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Are there books out there that share the aesthetic of VtMB? Closest I can get is the cyberpunk genre, with Altered Carbon describing that gritty world.

I want more of the crime/horror/sexual elements from VtMB though.
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nick land

>Meltdown has a place for you as a schizophrenic HIV+ transsexual chinese-latino stim-addicted LA hooker with implanted mirrorshades and a bad attitude. Blitzed on a polydrug mix of K-nova, synthetic serotonin, and female orgasm analogs, you have just iced three Turing cops with a highly cinematic 9mm automatic. The residue of animal twang in your nerves transmits imminent quake catastrophe. Zero is coming in, and you're on the run.
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>>9431144
I've already read all of Land's work, published and unpublished.
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>>9430952
anne rice. obviously.

This is a thread for the discussion of Japanese literature as well as asking for/giving reccommendations. Personally, I reccommend No Longer Human for everyone, if for whatever reason you haven't read it yet.

Also, I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I should start with Murakami? Or, maybe just your favorite of his works?

Pic unrelated.
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Read the Heike Monogatari.
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>>9430944
Yes but do you know japanese or do you read anglo translations?
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Recommendations of authors that will be remembered as the all time greats of this generation
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>>9430908
I saw this book in a bookstore today. I live in germany and was like "What the fuck?"
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>>9430962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWyRcWm2oy0#t=2m30s

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"Most UK authors' annual incomes still well below minimum wage, survey shows"
>https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/oct/19/uk-authors-annual-incomes-below-minimum-wage-survey-average-earnings

"in 2008-09 over half the writers consulted (58.7 per cent) earned less than €5,000 from writing-related income. Indeed, the commonest response – given by more than a quarter, or 27.9 per cent of respondents – was that they earned less than €500 a year."
>http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/the-500-a-year-career-do-irish-writers-get-paid-enough-1.2965310

"The earnings of more than half of American authors fell below the US federal poverty level last year, according to a survey from the Authors Guild."
>https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/sep/15/income-for-us-authors-falls-below-federal-poverty-line-survey

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Tao Lin: "My brother and my parents also own my apartment, so I only need to pay $526 or something every month for maintenance."
>http://www.interviewmagazine.com/culture/tao-lin-1/#_

Steinbeck: "Living in Pacific Grove, in a house owned by his father, Steinbeck wrote [his[ stories"
>http://canneryrow.com/our-story/john-steinbeck/

Patrick Suskind: "Financially supported by his parents, he moved to Paris, where he wrote "mainly short, unpublished fiction and longer screenplays which were not made into films."
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_S%C3%BCskind

Orhan Pamuk: "From ages 22 to 30, Pamuk lived with his mother, writing his first novel and attempting to find a publisher."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orhan_Pamuk

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Why do poorfags even bother trying to become novelists?
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>worshipping £
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>>9430728
And those are the fortunate few who actually 'make it', ie get published.
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>Implying they didn't just lie to prevent further competition from trying to be an author.

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Do you guys ever feel indecisive about which book to read next after finishing the previous?

ITT: Post the titles of five books in your current reading backlog/stack and other anons choose which is the best to read next.
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Shakespeare's Comedy of Errors
Shakespeare's The Tempest
Albert Camus' The Stranger
Jean Cocteau's Les Enfant Terribles
Las Casas' Short Account of the Destruction of the Indies

I just want to read something very short after a long 1332 page book.
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infinite jest
2666
cloud atlas
the idiot
suttree

i wish to have a book that'll keep me busy for the next few months and that i can obsess over every little detail.

>>9430661
the tempest imo. shakespeare's comedy feels dated imo unless if it's performed on stage. the word play is better expressed through speech and a lot of his slapstick humour is better conveyed visually, so the comedy of errors wouldn't be for me t b h. not read the others except the stranger and imo it's just OK
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One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Kesey
Confessions, St Augustine
Mrs Dalloway, Woolf
At Swim-Two-Birds, O'Brien
Brighton Rock, Greene

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