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My book club wants to read it.

Is it, at the very least, an acceptable book?

I enjoyed th movie, but mostle because of Rooney Mara's performance that made the movie for me.
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I found all three at a used bookstore for like four bucks total but I read one page and put that shit back.
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It's not "literature" but it's certainly acceptable. It's got an interesting plot and characters I guess. It won't change your life but you will have fun

reminder: you don't have to read literary books as every single thing you read
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>book club

What are you, a fag?

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I hate how pseudo intellectualism is so rampant that you can't even point out that the praise of huge amounts of reading as a virtue is stupid because reading is a passive habit and doesn't require huge amounts of thought and there is other stuff someone could be doing. It's not 100 AD anymore. Reading doesn't constitute 100 % of intellectual activity. Marketing, advertising, and lots of other stuff does nothing but praise consumerwhoredom but you aren't allowed to point this out

Nobody even wants to "engage" with philosophy or literature. They just read and name-drop as a pseudo intellectual social signalling mechanism or to appeal to authority. As soon as you disagree with a famous philosopher in any way you get mountains of people telling you that their "literary interpretation" of the philosopher is the real truth or they just ignore you.

Of course I'll be insulted and ignored itt.
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>>9434695
kys neckbeard
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>>9434695
>Of course I'll be insulted and ignored itt
yes. yes you will.
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Nice blog post, faggot. If your social circle consists exclusively of pseuds it's your fucking problem. In the end you belong there anyways, considering you'd rather bitch and moan about the unwashed plebs instead of striving to find genuine "engagers". Now fuck off and kys.

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I often hear that the meaning of words is bound to change if enough people use them differently but I've always felt that's god damn retarded.
At what point do we put a limit on this kind of mentality? Facism comes to mind with people turning its meaning into whatever fit them, it was the same with Communism not so long ago.
If meanings are bound to change at the will of ignorant masses, doesn't that make words fucking pointless?
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>>9434677
>ignorant masses
but words are used to convey meaning, op. as long as they can do that, theyre doing their job.
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>>9434736
but what is the purpose of the meaning a word is created for if people will just twist it to fit their needs in the future, even ignoring already existing vocabulary
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>>9434677
> could care less
This has literally the exact opposite meaning to what is intended, yet retards use and understand its meaning... go figure.

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Why do you even deserve to be published?
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>>9434643
I don't.
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Because I can.
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>>9434643
Worse works and people make it, so why not me and mine.

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Can /lit/ read in noisy/public places or whilst doing other things? Personally, I can only read in either total silence or lots of inseparable noises.
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>>9434580
>Personally, I can only read in either total silence or lots of inseparable noises.
Same goes for me. When there are lots of different noises they blend together so it's okay to read. But when there are only a few distinct noises, like two people talking and nothing else, it's impossible for me to concentrate on reading.
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>>9434580
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misophonia
Apparently, if it's a hindrance to you, you can get cognitive behavioral therapy to gain the capacity to read in noisy places,
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>>9434580
Same for me. Cant have a TV or single conversation in the backround.

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Post em
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>>9434561
might be my favorite

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Where's the line between art and porn?
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>>9434510
Taste
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That can't be the real quote. I know Nabokov isn't as good as I remember but I liked that part and it really wasn't that fucking bad.
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>>9434510
nabokov made juvenile, insignificant work. the fact that he is among the leading modern writers brings shame to the name of literature. He tried to compensate for his obvious immaturity and shallow level of thought and understanding by adopting the arbitrary doctrine emphasizing something like "aesthetic purity," and ended up reducing his art to nothing but a thin residue of sugary fluff. He arrogantly peacocked around, followed by his smug, dimwitted elitist followers, trying to show off the purity of his art, not realizing all the while that he essentially forgot to include pretty much everything that makes art truly great. Every time I hear someone go off about the "mastery of Nabokov's prose," and I remember the sickeningly sugary sentences, sculpted obsessively by what really amounts to a 14 year old child with a linguistic gift, I feel sick to my stomach. Literature cannot be and is not just the form. Literature is not just a collection of sensations strung together.

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>Long verbose walls of text not only during soliloquies but during dialog
>A lot of redundant detail in dialog
>Lines obviously stretched to be in iambic pentameter
>Have to read most paragraphs twice to understand what people are talking about
>Archaic language

How am I supposed enjoy this, /lit/? I know the stories are good underneath this.
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>>9434486
You could always try those "OMG Shakespeare" books or "LOL Shakespeare" it's one of those. They're exactly what they sound like.
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Don't read it twice, or try and translate it into modern english, just enjoy the poetry of the old language and style.
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>>9434486
>he thinks he's supposed to read Shakespeare for the story

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I want my sole purpose in this world to bred over and over again as many times as my partner wants me to be. In return for this gift it would be my honor and duty to serve him and care for his every need. Any time he wants to impregnate me I would gladly receive his semen. My belly would be a testament to his manhood.
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>>9434446
world is not so kind. now get back to work
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>>9434446
Smartest woman on /lit/
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>>9434446
t. Harry, the whore of the wizarding world

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Would be great if someone can help me find it so I can read more about it
Generalisation goes like this:
>transcendence as a/over pleasure
>controlled meritocracy with controlled draconian laws

>inb4 stoic
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>>9434427
Retardationism
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>>9434427
>transcendence as a pleasure
Buddhism
>transcendence over pleasure
stoicism
>inb4 stoic
no F U
>>controlled meritocracy
Democratism
>with controlled draconian laws
Singaporeanism
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>>9434458

FPBP

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I'm a girl who wants to sell out because I like money. I'm going to slave away on market research and hero's journeys and knockoffs of popular themes and character for a few months and publish the results as an Amazon ebook.

Should I write a romance novel or a young adult novel?
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Of course you are going to sell out, it is in your nature as a woman
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You should write a self immolation guide and test it, to check it similitude.
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>>9434372
>>9434443
So you say I should write a young adult romance novel
Thank you anons couldn't have desecrated literature w/o you

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I have only read about 14 books that could be considered serious literature
Only 1 of those was really long and really difficult
I have enough time to read more, but I don't
What I considered to be my "passion" for literature just seems more and more to be a hobby, or an interest
Should I just end my pseud existence?
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>do you enjoy it
>does it further your personal goals/help you grow
>are you causing no harm

If all yes: promptly tell external expectations and standards to fuck right off.

Who cares how much you read or if it's considered "literature." Everyone has different lives, different priorities, derives maximum pleasure from different amounts of stimuli. It doesn't have to be an overwhelming passion to be a good thing and have a profound effect on your quality of life.
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>>9434343
Yes, I do enjoy it, but it has become an escape from my crumbling failure of a life, an unhealthy escape for sure. I dont have any personal goals left and I'm not growing either
There is a good chance I'm causing harm to myself by retreating into literature everytime im faced with trouble in my life, while at the same time not having the conviction and gut to devote myself to it more fully
I read on-and-off, and even if it does affect me, I'd rather have it be gone than pretending to myself that it's my """passion""" when I've read and continue reading so little
Honestly I'm just depressed and willing to die
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>>9434343
>subjective conditions
>If all yes: promptly tell external expectations and standards to fuck right off.
>reading books for pleasure
>>>leddit

>>9434331
Read books that are substantial in world effect and in depth of content, it can be a hobby and an interest as long as you don't use it as a defining character trait or a posturing tool. Read to improve yourself.

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I am proposing another /lit/ readalong, whether for those who missed the last one or want to do another.

If there's a book you've always wanted to read but have never found the motivation to do so, post it ITT and I'll make a strawpoll. Then we decide upon the winner. My suggestions (some of which I've already read) are as follows m8s:

>Don Quixote
>Madame Bovary
>Gravity's Rainbow
>Blood Meridian
>Moby Dick
>Vanity Fair
>LOTR

Standard format, one chapter a day (or more/less, depending on the book and question) and then discussion/etc. Let's make it happen.
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>>9434133

Count of Monte Cristo pls
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>>9434145

Abridged only. It's not good enough to justify its length.
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>>9434133

Sweet.

Gulag Archipelago. Gets posted all the time on /lit/ but i want to see if it's bullshit or not.

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is "comical" the best way to spot a retard?
it seems to be the most used word by sub-90 IQ idiots
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>>9434061
Either this or "basically"
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"Vapid", "ignorant", constant injection of unnecessary simple but multisyllable words, or use of more than one "big word" every few sentences in casual conversation are the biggest ways to spot a pseud.

For actual double-digit "people" the red flags are stupid meme cancer words like "clapback" "serving looks" "woke" "shook" and that distinctive self-assuredly condescending tone you see in Buzzfeed/Vice articles
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>>9434076
"Ignorant" is the go-to of a liberal bitching you out, since calling you a retard/faggot/idiot/dick/bitch/stupid or any other real insult is bound to be "ableist" in some way.
Literally an insult that's not insulting.

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Only one enemy remained; two if you counted God.
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holy...
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Mersault is still guilty though
I don't understand what Camus was trying to convey (and I'm familiar with the reasoning of Sisyphus and Other Essays). Portraying a man as trapped in an absurdist charade, when in fact what's happening to him is perfectly sensible, seems redundant. Especially the focus in Meursault's inability to articulate the reasoning behind his actions; it loses relevance when you consider that he'd be judged guilty even without the prosecutor's moral arguments.
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>>9433954
Mersault was a whiny little bitch, he deserved to die

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