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Who is the greatest character he ever wrote and why is it Iago?
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>>9437845
Did you know that Shakespeare died in the arms of Ben Jonson?
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i a g o
j e s us
fact
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falstaff

wtf i love postmodernism now
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>>9437814
srsly?
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>>9437909
ya
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>>9437913
please explain

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redpill me on Saul Kripke
is he really the best team analytic has to offer?
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>>9437708
Go fuck yourself that's not how philosophy works
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believe it or not, before he became an analytic philosopher he was just a guy on the beach
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>>9437708
Kripke is just another anti-philosopher aboard the language/logic autism train that has wrecked philosophy. In the (distant or not that distant, I hope) future the philosophical paradigm of the linguistic turn shall be frowned upon, and rightfully so.

We live in the dark age of philosophy, the linguistic/logic autists are more dogmatic than their medieval ages counterparts.

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what do /lit/ think of this book?
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a delirious chunk of all the stuff they've read and heard and seemingly need to show off.
and the philosophy is pretty annoying in the end.
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>>9438155
> initially found the idea of rhizome to be quite intriguing
> soon turned into deliberate obscurantism after a few sections
> accidentally skimmed through Sokal’s Fashionable Nonsense
> the authors probably do not even have a clear understanding of the concepts employed from other subjects

So is this work completely nonsense or at least some of the ideas/arguments are reasonable?
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>>9437699
So far I've read the plateaus (chapters) 1 to 6 as well as 12 and 13. I love it, wrote a paper on the War Machine and the Apparatus of Capture recently.

It's dense as fuck, but I don't understand how people act like it's "complete nonsense". I guess it requires a peculiar way of reading it, you have to create for yourself visual abstractions in your mind to get a lot of what they are saying, but really if you are able to do so and you are not low IQ you should get most of it. Maybe it's the english translation that is part of the problem, my first language is french so I read it in its original language.

It's a roller-coaster of thought that's for sure. Give it a try.

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>yfw you realize that virtue is just the continuation of aesthetics in the moral plane
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I really resent aesthetics because so many different philosophical rabbit holes inevitably end up there. I think it ought to be its own school of thought alongside analytic and continental, except it would differ by actually meaning something.
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> all these faggy definitions of 'virtue'

'Virtue' means being 'manly', literally. From 'vir', 'man'.
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>>9437682
idiot

Was Tolstoy a faggot? Reading his Childhood and noticed the part where he fell for a boy, and then he fell for a chick, but the starting point was a boy.
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>>9437657
For a gay man he raped a lot of women in secret.
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>>9437657
>the year of our Lord 2017
>believing in monosexuality
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>>9437657
God healed him.

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share your favorite metafictional books

(also, any news on the movie for this? is it ever gonna happen?)
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>>9437637
is borges metafiction (sorry I am pleb when it goes for postmodern stuff)?
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>>9437641
yes, absolutely.
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>>9437637
I loved this books but fuck me the Fionn Mac Cool bits were difficult to get through. I'm aware they're supposed to be mocking celtic epics and while it was effective it doesn't make it any easier to read. Great book overall though.

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What the hell do you think was it about?
I still do not have any clear idea of what was it about. Was it about dealing with fear of our own image (created in letters to 'friend') and the backlash of reality?
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Is it about how facts dobt matter and its presentstion of argument and logical fallacy.
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>>9437680
What
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>>9437695
Read some of Kafkas letters to his father. The story reflects on his inner feelings towards his father whom he feared.

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ITT: Contemporary social commentaries
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>>9437578
not mentioning constantly when someone is bi or gay is erasure
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>>9437598
>erasure
Please elaborate.
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>>9437578
Does being on the bestseller list even count for anything anymore if books like this are on it?

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>>9437563
Ulysses
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My diary desu

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Virtue comes from somewhere besides teachers.

>if virtue was knowledge, it could be taught
>a virtuous man would teach virtue to his sons if he could teach it
>virtuous men do not always have virtuous sons
>therefore virtue is not knowledge

This is cool because if virtue leads to happiness, that means the source of happiness is not a teacher, but something else; Socrates suggests it to be some kind of god.
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Justice is about a proper ordering of the soul, with reason in control of the spirit and the appetite. Therefore, to be just is to be rightly ordered as a person, and to have the thing that most makes you human be the thing inside you that's strongest.
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>>9437456
Experience without theory is blind, but theory without experience is mere intellectual play.
- Kant

Definitely get wrapped up in just thinking about and reading stuff and forget that I need to get out and actually *do* things. I would even argue that theoria and praxis aren't just complementary - you actually can't have theory without practice even if theory can make your praxis better. Simple, but so easy to overlook.
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>>9437456
Lmao that argument is flawed af. Virtue is knowledge and will my dude.

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Literature by african american authors that isn't about race:
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>>9437382
Coetzee's Disgrace isn't only about race desu
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>>9437382
Native Son
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>>9437382
The question of race is so important in colonial and post-colonial Africa that pretty much all African lit will have traces of the race question in them purely due to the nature of the culture.

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Is this just On The Genealogy of Morals lite?
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>>9437379
Nietzsche died with his dick in his mouth.
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>>9437379
Not really, BGE and GM are basically the two books that when read together are diet-Zarathustra.

He essentially wrote them because his friends admitted they were too big of plebs to understand Zarathustra.
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>>9437478
Nietzsche had no friends.

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>get tired of Zizek and Marx
>decide to read some nice 20th century music history (the Rest Is Noise)
>get to Soviet Union part
>fucking Marxist interpretations staring back at me
>stop reading the book, pick up Persepolis, a grapic novel about someone growing up in mid-20th century Iran
>mfw Marx is on fucking page 10
>notlikethis.jpg
>finish it, there are multiple mentions of dialectic materialism
>decide to read esoteric books
>mfw the entire first chapter is essentially Hegelian negation described in mystical terms

CAN I JUST READ SOME FUCKING BOOKS WITHOUT MARX'S FUCKING FAT FINGERS IN THEM? CAN SOMEONE RECOMMEND ME BOOKS WITHOUT MARX IN IT?
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A smart idea would be reading books written before Marx's birth.
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>>9437376
john green
the greeks
etc. ps- fuck off
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The annoying thing about marx was that he wasn't even real. He was just some construction of Engles to sow confusion so Engles could make more money off his investments.

All i want in life is a woman to lie in bed with and:
make love to, talk to, bite, kiss, lick, spank, make laugh, share secrets with, fuck, stroke, be mean to, be kind to and love.

It seems this is never going to happen for me. Are there any books which explore this personally unattainable paradise to satiate me at least a little?
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its not paradise, its hardly worth the effort to acquire
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>>9437248
>Unattainable
You know that having a girlfriend/wife is the most normal thing in the world, right? You could always put effort into actually being a successful person, rather than posting about how hopeless you are on an Icelandic ice fishing imageboard.
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You put female companionship on a pedestal it does not deserve. Any woman you do manage to get with will never satisfy your expectations, yet despite that you will cling desperately to her out of fear of being alone again. She will not respect you, and with good reason, you are pathetic and deserve nothing but contempt.

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