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>>9449972
This isn't literature related, senpai.
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>>9449972
>writing
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LaTeX

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Are there any books where the main character is similar to Karl Pilkington? If not, there should be.
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every female YA dystopia protagonist
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>>9449938
The post office
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>>9449948
Unironically this.

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I'd argue that SF represents literature's real mainstream. What we now normally consider the mainstream—so called realistic fiction—is a small literary genre, fairly recent in origin, which is likely to be relatively short lived.

When I look back at the foundations of literature, I see literary figures who, if they were alive today, would probably be members of the Science Fiction Writers of America. Homer? He would certain belong to the SFWA. So would Dante, Milton, and Shakespeare. That tradition is literature's mainstream, and it has been what has grown out of that tradition which has been labeled SF or whatever label you want to use.
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>>9449871
>I'd argue that SF represents literature's real mainstream.
[citation needed]
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>>9449871
Those would more accurately be described as fantasy if you want to follow that logic. But you're not wrong, realistic literature started with the rise of modern capitalism.
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>>9449871
Unfortunately, there are few works of sci-fi or fantasy which show any discernible talent. They often regurgitate the same plots over and over, have cliche ridden, terrible prose, and painfully unoriginal archetypal characters.

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Absurdist/nihilist literature. As a complete layman in terms of philosophy, where should I start with absurdist/nihilistic lit?

If I start with say, Camus which of his works should I begin with?
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>>9449869
I'm going to start with the myth of Sisyphus its a good place to start. If you want to start at the beginning of existentialism try one of Soren kierkregards books
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>>9449869
check out fathers and sons by turgenev
bazarov was literally the original nihilisit
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I agree with >>9450010 , The myth of Sisyphus would be a good start. My first Camus book was The Stranger, I recommend it too.
I also have a question but I don't want to start a new thread: is Nausea by J.P. Sartre worth reading?

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Positivism is not a sincere ideology but an enabler for sexual deviancy. Every single major positivist is a sexual deviant in some way. If you believe in positivism you also will believe their is nothing wrong with being a sexual deviant.
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Not that I want to promote positivism, but it's entirely possible to be devoutly religious and also deviant. It's all a matter of what you do with yourself--with how you act.
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i'm positive that sexual deviancy is desirable
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>>9449805
>Not that I want to promote positivism

Why not. It's the only philosophical school that makes sense.

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>The year is 1950 see...
What are you kids readin'?
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Pulpy shit, horror, sci-fi. Also O Henry, Twain, Flannery O'Connor. Classics.
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>>9449773
This is good shit. They should make a motion picture out of it.
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>>9449785
Starring a hit musician with real stage presence! Like Bing Crosby, that's the ticket!

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Step 1: Set a goal for reading/writing/studying
Step 2: Hold other anons accountable.
Step 3: Reach your goals and bully everyone who fails.
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>>9449738
I'll start, I want to read 100 pages a day and write 4000 words a day because I'm a filthy NEET.
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>>9449738
I want to read, research and write 1,2 and 1 hours per day respectively.
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>>9449738
Step 1: set a realistic goal for writing
Step 2: meet that goal consistently
Step 3: try to show your work to others and get the "my pokemans, let me show you them" treatment
Step 4: publish it on your wordpress site and do not get depressed when nobody comments on it
Step 5: try to get it published and fail
Step 6: lie awake at night wondering what is wrong with you
Step 7: wait three years and then do it all again

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Where do I start with him?
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>>9449690
start with the philosophy in the tragic age of the greeks
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>>9449690
Beyond Good and Evil is a pretty entertaining short read. Most modern editions will include endnotes and that type of shit to try to facilitate deep learning
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>>9449690
ecce homo desu

Im new to /lit/ and i dont really read books that often and I mostly read graphic novels. Any violent, comedic books or Red Pill type stuff i should read?
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Read some Virginia Woolf
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>>9449150
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>>9449605
Anything in particular?

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Preferably I would like something poetic, but its not very important. What ones has /lit/ read?

Also, is there any prior reading I need to do before reading it?
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John Ciardi is the easiest one to read.
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>translated poetry
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>>9449539
The John Ciardi translation literally has a plain English description of the text, and then the actual text right after it. Then it has annotations of obscure references at the end of the chapter. It's the absolute most helpful edition you can possibly get.

Kiddie Porn
Flatulence
Urethrotomy
Thought
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several because I've always understood it to mean 4 but I guess other people don't

few because I've always understood it to mean 3 but I guess other people don't
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>>9449537
You managed to hit all my fetishes in one post
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>>9449569
I have read too much 4chan today.

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>"Now it is clear, God cares only for what is his, busies himself only with himself, thinks only of himself, and has only himself before his eyes; woe to all that is not well pleasing to him. He serves no higher person, and satisfies only himself. His cause is - a purely egoistic cause."

What on earth did he mean by this?
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God follows his own desires, he can't follow a higher power because he is the highest power.
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>>9449576
Desires are a spook though
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Seems pretty self explanatory to me senpai.

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Douglas Adams 1984 is the most reddit, but the saddest is definitely
>The Maze Runner series by Philip Pullman
Two actual children's books. 478 points...
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>>9449336
I actually found the one about Marx covering Green Eggs and Ham pretty funny:


Exploitation on a train
Exploitation on a plane
Exploitation here and there
Exploitation everywhere!
Proletariat, show your might:
Workers of the world, unite!
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>>9449361
>Proletariat, show your might:
>Workers of the world, unite!
7 syllables followed by 8 syllables. the rest of the lines matched

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Hey guys, I've been lurking here for a while despite not being a reader myself. I just recently decided to ready Trump's "The Art of the Deal" and really found myself learning from it as seen that I want to work as a Money (Asset/Wealth) Manager after leaving Uni.

Now I'm deciding to tackle something that's been on the back of my head since I was 10: My fear of Death. And something that I've been philosophizing a lot about for the past few years: There's no reason to life because in the end I'm going to die and nothing will have mattered.

I'm not looking for Beginner-Difficulty books, I'm just saying I'm a "Beginner" at reading because I want any and every recommendations.

I heard that Nietzsche has an awesome book on Nihilism (Thus Spoke Zarathustra) and wanted to know if there are any books that will enlighten me when it comes to having a reason to live, and about death.

I'm not suicidal, otherwise I wouldn't be fearful of death. And I wouldn't be having these daily existentialist crisis if I could live forever, because then I'd have a reason to live.

What should I read? I just recently grew out of videogames and mostly grew out of TV, so I have plenty of time to read. I will try and read every rec.
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>>9449301
>In the beginning, there was nothing.
Then where did anything come from? It had to be something, although not necessarily a thing. Categorically above; perhaps even above categories.
>Now I'm deciding to tackle something that's been on the back of my head since I was 10: My fear of Death. And something that I've been philosophizing a lot about for the past few years: There's no reason to life because in the end I'm going to die and nothing will have mattered.
I see. I often wonder why this isn't the case with more people, but it would seem that people tend to not take their world views seriously, or they simply skip the unconventional thoughts.

Your problem is your world view. Seek philosophers and religions. I mean it. If you find something of importance, you were wrong by definition. No matter what it is you found.

How well read are you?
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>>9449301
>I'm not suicidal, otherwise I wouldn't be fearful of death.
Humans are not rational, and I think that some of us are not allowed to leave. Suicidal people can fear death. They just may be motivated by something else more.
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>>9449363
Religion definitely sounds the way that I should go, yes. But I just can't wrap my head around believing in an omniscient being that created everything nor anything of the sort. I personally see myself as an Agnostic with very neutral views toward everyone but extremists (Extremist Christians, Extremist Muslims, Extremist Atheists, Extremist Buddhists)

I haven't found anything of importance yet. The most important thing in life for me is money- money controls the world, money is what makes the world go round. Money is the reason why people wake up every morning and the reason why our society is even remotely connected. But with that being said, at the end of everyone's life, nothing will have mattered. You could have been the richest, or the poorest person ever, you will be dead. It's just black from there.

You spend 70-80 years alive, doing your things, feeling bad, or good about things. Hurting, or helping others, then you die and nothing matters, because for you nothing is alive once you're not alive. It's just blackness. No thoughts, no matter, no feelings, just blackness.

I've read the High School books, and that's about it when it comes to literature. I've read some technical books in order to independently learn about financial markets, and I read a ton of articles. I mostly just watch stuff: Documentaries, Movies, Classes, etc. But I just realized how important reading is.

I've always turned a blind eye to Non-Fiction because I just thought that nothing that wasn't true didn't matter- I mean, you will obviously feel amused by a fantasy story, but ultimately it won't matter. But I realized I was wrong when I started actually thinking about it: You can get life lessons from books, reasoning to live, etc.

I genuinely don't know how to learn anything from literature. I read Trump's "The Art of the Deal" and I got a few great highlights on how to do a great deal and whatnot, but I don't see how reading about, say, Frodo will help me... ever. If you- or anyone- could educate me on this I would appreciate it!

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What's a quick and dirty read-through of pre-socratics/homer with a view to just getting to and getting more out of Plato/Aristotle?
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>>9449285
Insincere.
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This is the best I know of for what you described.
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(pic related) http://gen.lib.rus.ec/

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