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What does /lit/ think of this man?
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>le drunkard genius meme
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>>9451676
tried to be dramatic way too hard. also this >>9451679
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Some people like him when they're in their teens but then get over it when they've matured a bit. You should definitely avoid women who like Bukowski.

If you want to read something of his to get a grip on what kind of author he is, then Ham on Rye is widely considered to be his best novel.

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what does /lit/ think of iris murdoch?

my wife is writing her thesis (for a BA in philosophy) on her works. she was going to do her thesis on modal logic and phenomenology, but got scared and was encouraged to do this by her professors.

frankly, i think iris murdoch is schlocky and not grounds for a very productive philosophical dialogue. plus, g.e.m, anscombe is my waifu and the true successor of wittgenstein desu senpai
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>>9451621
I lieked "the sea, the sea"
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>>9451621
I read The Bell. Had some funny bits. Nothing earth shattering though.
Middlebrow with highbrow pretensions.
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>>9451641
i herd u leik mudkipz ;D

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in the sentence "i had just stopped", is 'just' a qualifier, intensifier, both, or something else?
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JUST
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>>9451586

It's an adverb, describing when the action happened (i.e., at the same time or immediately before some other implied verb)
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>>9451685
what about in >>9451660

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'm not sure musically what is supposed to typify vaporwave but I know the art associated with it typically has this gauzy bright electro look with frequent use of orange, pink, and green.

My mom purchased this book for my nephew and I said I liked it for the bright colors, not for learning the alphabet. Is it possible that these bright euphoric colors are associated with the booming capitalism of the 1980s that much of /pol/ is nostalgic for and this this book is capitalistic/redpilled?
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>>9451526
I'm*
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Jesus Christ
I need to take a break from this board
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>>9451526
Yes. Also god-tier children's lit.

Wake up and smell the coffee.
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I don't care
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>>9451502

Philosophy actually died in 1900 with Nietzsche.
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>>9451502
Plot twist: they are still in the womb. Life or death is yet to be decided.

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Isn't thesis-antithesis-synthesis basically an argument for centrism? It's basically saying "le truth is in le middle of both extremes, we need a healthy mix." This is garbage.
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Synthesis doesn't imply centrality, friend.
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>>9451508
This. And why were you reading Fichte anyway, OP?
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>>9451501
No, the dialectic doesn't function like that. And Hegel doesn't use those terms, anyway. Don't criticize something based on someone else's misunderstanding of it.

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What do you write when you have nothing to write?
In other words, what do you write for exercise?
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get a job
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>>9451417
That hit close to home, anon.
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>>9451415

My diary desu.

Seriously.

and also this:


http://www.artofmanliness.com/2014/03/26/want-to-become-a-better-writer-copy-the-work-of-others/

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How do I start with Gandhi? What are the essentials to understanding Gandhi? His trial? Where should I start?
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start with the greeks
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I'd start with the richard attenborough movie
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His anti-african rhetoric. He was a tremendous racist and that triggers middle class black Americans no end

To read or not to read?
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if you a) are interested in Evola, and/or b) are interested in magic, then yes.
accessorily, if you are interested in symbolic thought, then read it too.
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>>9451359
>magic
>"practical"
>Evola

Yeah sure why not, but don't expect to get anything worthwhile out of it. Evola was a crazy person with some intriguing ideas about the relationship between proto-Indian mythic cycles and trends in modern society, but only his stuff on culture is worth reading just to get an unusual point of view, and even that gets bogged down with all kinds of massive leaps of logic. Every time he goes off about sex magic or whatever it's just a load of trash though and you'd be no better or worse off than picking up some random new age pamphlet about tantric yoga crystals or whatever the fuck
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>>9451359
it's a very interesting read, but it isn't an "introduction" at all

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Hello /lit/. It's me, the polling anon from 2016. I'm back to host another poll of your top 100 books, so we can measure the progress of /lit/'s taste and get a chart to help beginners find new books.

If you're wondering why I'm doing this again so early, it's because /lit/ has the ugly tendency to succumb to memes (when I did the last poll, Alan Moore's Jerusalem was "in" and made the top 35 I think, which wouldn't have happened had we done it in a meme-free time). For another example, Bob Dylan won the nobel prize and dominated /lit/'s collective attention for a month or so. If I'd made the poll then we surely would've lost a lot of time to having to delete the "Blonde and Blonde" and "like a rolling stone" entries. not to hate on Dylan who I like, but it would've delayed progress. There don't seem to be any memes currently other than the longrunning ones, but they shouldn't affect the polling more than we can expect.

This time, I'm allowing 3 entries. The first gets 5 points (ie, 5 votes), the second gets 2, and the last gets only 1. That way you can give more weight to the books you like most, and we can get a more concise list that's easy to count and also factors in just how much ppl like certain books.

I've missed you /lit/. Also, enjoy Joyce playing the guitar.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc2G-VEFDyLZb2ThRcLJwWrKY4zRMAO8FTqB3JG6AmGnu-LCw/viewform?usp=sf_link
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>>9451354
thanks anon
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>>9451354
another one? I doubt our taste has changed that much since the last.
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>>9451369
you'd be surprised

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So my wife has been in grad school for a while, getting a master's and now and PhD. I've mingled with English grad students and lit mfas because of her. I've been thinking about applying to mfa programs but one of the things that puts me off is the mfa students. They all seem to be extremely sensitive special snowflake types who can't fucking deal. I went to a reading last night and all of their work was whiny mastubatory fever dream nonsense about how gay they are and shit like that. Are all these people this way? What is the point of even creating if it's this kind of crap?
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>>9451343
Post-secondary education is useless. Independent study is both more enjoyable and more effective in the long term.

Plus you don't have to deal with college kids.
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your wife is worthless trash
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>>9451394
thats actually mainly why i decided to be home schooled.

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A long time ago I read a book. As far as I remember it was about two guys, who lived in woods in siberia (I think). The main points I remember that:
One time a guy went alone into woods and died
Another guy, knowing that the guy died, let the dog into house.
Somehow, that book really made an impression on me, but I can't remember anything.
Does anyone know what book was it?
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Leon Ostrov.
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>>9451338
Could you elaborate, search doesn't really come up with anything.
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>>9451318
You're thinking of Leon Ostrov

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I just finished VALIS and my copy of The Divine Invasion is taking forever to get to me. Can I skip The Divine Invasion for now and move on to The Transmigration of Timothy Archer? Or should I wait and read my copy of The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch instead?
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>finished VALIS
How? I made it half-way through and stopped because it felt like I'm reading Finnegans Wake on drugs
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>>9451299
The second half is a lot different than the first, it's more narrative driven and less babble about Dick's gnostic beliefs. If you approach the book as a fan of his work and realize that everything he wrote post 1974 was his attempt to make sense of his psychotic break then it's a very enjoyable but sad book.
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You say that like it's a bad thing.

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>have been writing on a single project for almost a year
>still have nothing beyond individual scenes, connected by nothing other than common characters

90,000~ words, but with no coherent timeline to connect the scenes.

How do l create an actual narrative?
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>>9451235
why do you want it to be a narrative? maybe just leave it like it is
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just make it an epistolary novel or a series of sketches.
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>>9451242

I want it to sell

>>9451243

Those don't sell unless the author is already established

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With the frequent questions about what postmodernism is, I'm surprised to find that Wikipedia has a pretty straightfoward description, allegedly based on the Encyclopaedia Britannica, which reproduces a lot of the stereotypical answers:
>According to Brian Duignan of the Encyclopædia Britannica, many postmodern claims are a deliberate repudiation of certain 18th-century Enlightenment values. A postmodernist might believe that there is no objective natural reality, and that logic and reason are mere conceptual constructs that are not universally valid. Two other characteristic anti-Enlightenment postmodern practices are a denial that human nature exists, and a (sometimes moderate) skepticism toward claims that science and technology will change society for the better. Postmodernists also believe there are no objective moral values. Postmodern writings often focus on deconstructing the role that power and ideology play in shaping discourse and belief. Postmodern philosophy shares ontological similarities with classical skeptical and relativistic belief systems, and shares political similarities with modern identity politics.[1]
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodern_philosophy
What's wrong with this?
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Postmodernist thought is essential to a thorough and critical understanding of modernity and the contemporary world
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>>9451128
>What's wrong with this?

Nothing's wrong with postmodernism per se.

The reason /lit/ gets triggered by postmodernism is mostly literary rather than cultural in nature; i.e. being annoyed with lazy authors who write a load of hackneyed garbage and then try to justify it by calling it "postmodern", as if writing something bad but being self-aware that it's bad somehow erases its badness. Or to put it another way, "dude I was just pretending to be retarded: The Literary Principle".

This probably sounds like an oddly specific nitpick and not worth being angry about, unless you read a lot of contemporary non-genre fiction, in which case this trend is the bane of your existence because every halfway-intelligent recent uni grad who's just entering the world of publishing had the same idea at the same time to write like this as a crutch for not being able to come up with something that can stand on its own merit, so now whenever you pick up something new there's a 50:50 shot that it's going to be a dull slice-of-life novel with a zany magical realist twist that goes nowhere, and there's no character development or any tangible thematic depth or anything even halfway solid from a philosophical standpoint, and the conclusion will be "dude lol, nothing means anything, not even this novel you just read, story is an arbitrary construct so my story doesn't have any story in it lmao that's the point :^)"

/lit/ is an outlet to REE at this in private
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>>9451427
I feel like this is a huge reduction that does apply in some cases but relies on an ignorant generalisation. But that's just guessing, because
>who reads modern fiction lmao

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