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ITT: Books you really wanted to get into but couldnt finish because of reasons

Pic related. Bored me too much
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Be honest now, have you finished any book?
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>>9456008
I love Kafka and this amongst his weakest works.
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>>9456008
You should try again. I wasn't crazy about it but the final chapter had me in tears.

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What books will you give your son to read? (assume for a second you will have one)
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>>9455819
I will make sure he becomes one of the frogmen on the redpill boards
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The Hobbit as a child
Musashi as a teen

Then he can read whatever
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>get married
>wife already has son
>little shit who plays video games and watches dumb cartoons all day
>buy him some beginner classics to spark an interest in literature
>start with childhood favourites like Jack London, Jules Verne, and Edgar Allen Poe
>to my surprise he actually enjoys them quite a bit
>enjoy buying him more books and seeing his bookshelf grow with more great literature
>and not cheap editions, but Everymans and Library of Americas so they will last his lifetime
>finally feel proud that although he might not share my genes I've at least passed on my love for reading
>wife's new boyfriend starts buying him books
>it's fucking pleb YA shit like Harry Potter and other crap I haven't even heard about but can tell they suck
>wife's son says he enjoys them more than all the "old crap" I buy him
>his bookshelf runs out of room so he has to get rid of some of his books
>of course he wants to get rid of everything I buy him
>I end up taking them and put them in my library so at least I can enjoy reading them
>wife's boyfriend keeps buying him more shit and his shelf runs out of room again
>one day come home from work
>see that wife's boyfriend has bought him a whole fucking box full of Stephen King books
>try to tell him he can't take them because there's no room on his bookshelf
>wife says she "made some room" on my shelf
>go to the other room to look at my shelf
>it's practically fucking empty
>ask where my books are and they say they threw them out
>try to stammer out that it was a lifetime of great literature there and it costs a lot of money
>they tell me not to "be a baby about it," and that "they're just books" before telling me to go into the cuckshed again
>tfw it's fucking boring this time because I have nothing good to read to pass the time

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https://www.poetryfoundation.org/resources/learning/core-poems/detail/47695

hard-mode: Poet must be canonized
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>>9455810
anything by a women author. emily dickenson, sappho the list goes on
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>>9455814
that was a woman you retard
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>>9455810
That's a great poem

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The
>translations
meme is probably my least favorite meme here. There are plenty of eben maymays on /lit/ and they're usually somewhat humorous, but this one is probably the only one that has a real, deleterious effect on the quality of this board, in that it actively seeks to mock and discourage people from ACTUALLY READING BOOKS. People should not be mocked for actually doing things that would likely improve the overall quality of the board.

Of course it's not a "sincere" meme in its origins, but I'm starting to suspect a great number of newfriends are taking this meme way too seriously and immediately posting >translations wherever and whenever they can.

And I say this as someone who has reading fluency in 7 languages and read as many things in the original as possible. I will never ever discourage someone from reading a translation if that's the only option available to them.

Pic related.
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>>9455782
Im proud to be racist
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>>9455782
>discourage people from ACTUALLY READING BOOKS
no, it is to encourage learning new languages
>it's not a "sincere" meme
it is
>I will never ever discourage someone from reading a translation
not discouraging people just saying they are wasting their time
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>>9455803
go to /int/ if you want to encourage people to learn languages

translations are superior to originals. always have been. read your borges faggot.

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So, i have this issue, i read a lot of the stuff recommended on here, and i almost always read the English translations. But my native language is Dutch and i notice that when i have to speak Dutch i throw in English words non/stop, and its getting to the point now that i cant express myselve in Dutch anymore without sounding like a retard. Should I just start reading Dutch translations of foreign books?? I rather not since a lot of originally English proze will sound dumb... And does anyone else have this problem.
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bump for lonely dutchbro thread
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>>9455776
I mean, sure.
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>>9455776
as an American, I sympathize.
my Dutch is horrible

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I'm a good part of the way through the Old Testament and am currently wondering why people feel religiously disposed after reading it. Or, am I wrong, and the New Testament is what makes people believe? The writing is fantastic, but, to me, it mainly stresses familial loyalty, trust, forgiveness, and the importance of bonds. Although God plays a big part in the narrative, I don't feel any more inclined to believe in him, and he could easily just be replaced by Fate or a more anthropomorphic representation (e.g. in Greek works), and nothing would change.

For reference, I have read the Books of Moses, 1, 2 Samuel and 1,2 Kings, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Job, and Isaiah. I'm reading the KJV version along with the annotations in an ESV edition (which I also check if I don't understand a part in the KJV), so I don't feel like I am missing anything.
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You have to read the four Gospels about ten times to get it.
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>>9455633
Also, re-read Psalms a couple of times
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>>9455619
>Or, am I wrong, and the New Testament is what makes people believe?
yes

Not sure if /lit/ or /adv/
Wannabe translator here, about to jump into /lit/ translation. Any tips from old veterans? How slow is too slow? How fast is too fast?

I've been translating academic articles and shit for some years. Recently, I've got a job offer to deal with a whole novel. The thing is that I've been using google translate and dictionaries and nobody ever complained, but I reckon /lit/ stuff perhaps requires more complex tools. What am I in for?

To make it more /lit/ related, feel free to add your own translator horror stories.
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>>9455505
translators should be persecuted so people learn more languages and read the exact words the author chose.
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>>9455508
No bully. I take special care with that. I fucking hate localizations and I get triggered when I see a big fuckup.

Teacher told us we can be a bit "loose" with terms and expressions, but I'd rather get the accurate meaning.
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Which language are you translating from?

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inb4
>translations
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>>9455475
>>translations
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>>9455534

There is literally nothing wrong with translations.
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>>9455475
As in Der Verschollene?

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I'll start.

I'm no /pol/ newbie,
I just detest the "TRUMP!" fags.
Get off my board, cunts.
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>>9455424
No.
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>>9455432
There's a Jesus AMA on the front page, you're telling me that's better?
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No no no no no
No no no no no no no
No no no no no.

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What are some literary do's and dont's?
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Do: read a book
Don't: waste your time on 4chan
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Do: read and write

Don't: talk about reading and writing
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Do: do.
Don't: don't.

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What the fuck do people mean by "worldbuilding"

It seems like a cheap but semi-positive way to say "it dragged on forever and was super boring and overly descriptive" when a person is trying to pretend to like a book
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They mean "I'm scared or unable to actually write an engaging story, so I make up a world in my mind that's interesting to nobody but myself."
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>>9455404
It's good if your worldbuilding helps reinforce your greater themes (LOTR, Dune), but yea how its practiced today is mostly autism.
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What are some books with actual good world building?

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Good evening people!,

I'm writing a scientific paper about protectionism and my main goal is to hopefully find a answer to my question above

But now I would need another ,,Paper" from a legit source which talks about that question but unfortunatelly I cant find anything worthy using for, in the internet

Maybe someone here can help me out with finding something usable for my paper
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This thread is suited for /his/ moreso than /lit/
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>>9455393
hm ok thank you :)
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literary a google search
http://public.econ.duke.edu/Papers/Other/Tower/Protectionism.pdf

In her essays, she critiques humanism as the source of giving primacy to humanity in love rather than persons, and calls such a love unchristian and actually impossible (God loves us as individuals, knowing each intimately, and commands love for one's "neighbor" and "the least of these" and "one another", not love for humanity, which could never be truly sincere or intense). This ideological primacy, she feels, is why communists could so shamelessly butcher persons for the sake of humanity. This got me thinking about the Filioque: in Catholicism, God's essence produces (dual procession here is about the Spirit having one principle--Latin for origin or source--in the Father and the Son, according the RCC Catechism) the Spirit's existence (or person), and since the Father and Son have one essence, they produce the Spirit together (Saint Photius the Great, in Mystagogy of the Holy Spirit, famously argued that if the Spirit's existence is produced by the Father's and Son's essence, that would mean the Spirit is produced by his own essence unless his essence is different from theirs). This established a very firm primacy of essence over person the west (in Orthodoxy, the Spirit's existence is produced by the Father's existence--"hypostasis" in Greek--not his essence), which unfortunately wasn't reversed until the advent of existentialism, which, unfortunately, being an outgrowth of humanism (which replaced God as locus with humanity as locus), replaces the locus of humanity with the locus of self.
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Dude weed lmao
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>>9455345
>(God loves us as individuals, knowing each intimately, and commands love for one's "neighbor" and "the least of these" and "one another", not love for humanity, which could never be truly sincere or intense).
Another example of how amazing and awesome the bible is
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>>9455491
Yup!

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What do you think of Henry Miller? I don't think I've ever seen him discussed here. I really enjoyed the Sexus, Plexus, Nexus Trilogy, Quiet Days in Clichy and Tropic of Cancer.
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>>9455332
Wow I think that proved my point. Somebody?
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>I don't think I've ever seen him discussed here
I'm glad no one replied to your thread. Kill yourself.
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>>9455332
He sucks dicks in hell.

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What books would you recommend to a broken hearted 19 year old who loves tragic stories?
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try this or young werther then fuck off to /r9k/
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I recommend not browsing 4chan to cope with real shit.
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>>9455294
A step-by-step guide to suicide

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